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  • Are tails mandatory?

    So I'm confused. I see people now wearing helmets and tails and I think it looks lame are they not allowed to ditch the tails and just wear a normal jacket? What are the exact rules on jackets for CCI** and CCI***?

    WARNING DRESS RANT:
    Is it just me or does riding have THE dumbest dress code in sport. Everyone else wears clothes offering better performance and such. We have to wear jackets that we sweat to death in and dumb little top hats are also approved. We look so uncool no wonder we have no spectators and sponsorships who wants to be associated with the worst dress sport. Seriously we need to get with the times. Im embarrassed to show normal people dressage and showjumping photos because I look so ridiculous in those jackets.

    There is my dress code rant for today

  • #2
    Ahhh but one person's ridiculous is another's elegance. Personally I like the formality, and I see nothing wrong with a tailcoat and a classy helmet (ie: not a plastic shiny Troxel).

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      #3
      Originally posted by saje View Post
      Ahhh but one person's ridiculous is another's elegance. Personally I like the formality, and I see nothing wrong with a tailcoat and a classy helmet (ie: not a plastic shiny Troxel).
      Their elegance is almost killing me... The heat is brutal!

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      • #4
        I personally love the attire. America has become far too casual. (I say this as a college student who wears T-shirts everyday). I enjoy the classic elegance of traditional riding attire. I also see nothing wrong with a helmet and tails.

        Perhaps you should try a different fabric? They make some fabrics that are supposed to be lighter these days, but still look fairly traditional.

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        • #5
          I get heat stroke easily so you will not find me in a jacket in Indiana summer unless it is required. I am neatly dressed in a polo though.

          I have no problem with someone wearing tails and an approved helmet and I am glad that safety has a place among formality.
          http://weanieeventer.blogspot.com/

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          • Original Poster

            #6
            BUT can you wear a normal jacket (not tails) at a CCI** and CCI***?

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            • #7
              Originally posted by SkipChange View Post
              I personally love the attire. America has become far too casual. (I say this as a college student who wears T-shirts everyday). I enjoy the classic elegance of traditional riding attire. I also see nothing wrong with a helmet and tails.

              Perhaps you should try a different fabric? They make some fabrics that are supposed to be lighter these days, but still look fairly traditional.
              I totally agree, and I'm a 20something that wears jeans to work-computer programming, they're just happy I have social skills! Heck, I actually dress more professionally at the barn and when I go on call with the vet!
              Anyway, I love the formal attire. I even stopped wearing "colors" to stadium unless it's run back to back with xc. I want to get good enough to wear tails, though I totally want to wear a top hat, I can, right?
              As for fabrics, I've found wool is nice for spring/fall (I compete in New England) and I have a black hunt coat in a really light material I use for the summer. I also have really neat "vented" button down shirts. I like the throw back to the prim and properness of the hunt and the military high standards. Maybe it's because I grew up a military brat. (Believe it or not, those who know me, that previously purple hair and the tattoos are on a girl with 3/4 parents retired military officers).
              ~T3DE 2010 Pact Clique~

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              • #8
                I love the tails and top hat, but I can appreciate the trend toward more practical clothing and headgear. I'd like an answer the OP's question about the rules. I don't think the helmet with tails has quite the same impact, but a helmet with a conservative, tail-less jacket looks quite nice to me.
                "Rock n' roll's not through, yeah, I'm sewing wings on this thing." --Destroyer
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                • #9
                  I thought you meant horse tails. Which honestly puzzled me for a moment.

                  Guess it's obvious I haven't had my morning coffee yet.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Shrunk "N" Da Wash View Post
                    WARNING DRESS RANT:
                    Is it just me or does riding have THE dumbest dress code in sport. Everyone else wears clothes offering better performance and such. .... Seriously we need to get with the times.
                    I'm with you 100%, Shrunk.

                    Riders are athletes, not actors in Masterpiece Theatre.

                    Football players no longer wear leather pants. The Olympics are no longer contested naked. Time to move on.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by JER View Post
                      The Olympics are no longer contested naked. Time to move on.
                      "Rock n' roll's not through, yeah, I'm sewing wings on this thing." --Destroyer
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                      • #12
                        I know tails are optional at the CCI** level (I've done a two-star in a hunt coat and helmet) but I believe they are required for *** and ****.

                        I'm too lazy to look up the rule to be sure, and I'm guessing you are capable of googling for yourself if you really want to know.
                        I evented just for the Halibut.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by JER View Post
                          I'm with you 100%, Shrunk.

                          Riders are athletes, not actors in Masterpiece Theatre.

                          Football players no longer wear leather pants. The Olympics are no longer contested naked. Time to move on.
                          Ah, but the Olympics would be very interesting if they did do it naked! Maybe not the downhill skiing....

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                          • #14
                            I actually DID go to the FEI rule book, just cause I couldn't remember where the cutoff was. If anyone can understand what they are actually saying regarding coats, please post. They tell you what is not encouraged, but not what is recommended or required, at least by my reading.

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                            • #15
                              5.1 CIVILIAN – compulsory except as indicated in 5.2 & 5.3 below: hunting dress or uniform of a riding club, white shirt and tie, gloves, white, fawn or cream breeches, boots, hunting cap, protective headgear or top hat, and spurs (in accordance with Para. 3 above)
                              5.2 AT CICS 2/1* athletes, if they wish, may wear a tweed jacket with fawn or beige breeches and black or brown boots.
                              5.3 AT CCI/CIC1* the wearing of a top hat and tailcoat is not encouraged.
                              So what is required is "hunting dress or uniform of a riding club". However here, there is an interpretation that appears to require tails at the 3* level and above:
                              http://www.cdi-raleigh.com/2009Compa...ssageRules.pdf
                              OTTBs rule, but spots are good too!

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                              • #16
                                I am absolutely in favour of tradition and formality. So let's get rid of all these bloody women in the sport. It's SO untraditional.


                                And if we do allow one or two of them to have a little go at the lower levels, then for heavens sake, let's have them dress correctly and ride correctly. Good grief, women riding astride ? In skin-tight Breeches ??? Scandalous ! Whatever next ? You'll be wanting women to have to bother their pretty little heads with politics and voting before long

                                A Woman on a horse should be dressed formally - in a habit that covers her ankles. Anything less is a modern abomination.

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                                • #17
                                  5.1 CIVILIAN – compulsory except as indicated in 5.2 & 5.3 below: hunting dress or uniform of a riding club
                                  Hey guys! I'm starting a riding club. It's called the Just Wear Whatever Riding Club.

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                                  • #18
                                    Originally posted by KateWooten View Post
                                    I am absolutely in favour of tradition and formality. So let's get rid of all these bloody women in the sport. It's SO untraditional.


                                    And if we do allow one or two of them to have a little go at the lower levels, then for heavens sake, let's have them dress correctly and ride correctly. Good grief, women riding astride ? In skin-tight Breeches ??? Scandalous ! Whatever next ? You'll be wanting women to have to bother their pretty little heads with politics and voting before long

                                    A Woman on a horse should be dressed formally - in a habit that covers her ankles. Anything less is a modern abomination.
                                    You owe me a new keyboard
                                    "Adulthood? You're playing with ponies. That is, like, every 9 year old girl's dream. Adulthood?? You're rocking the HELL out of grade 6, girl."

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                                    • #19
                                      Originally posted by ellebeaux View Post
                                      I thought you meant horse tails. Which honestly puzzled me for a moment.

                                      Guess it's obvious I haven't had my morning coffee yet.
                                      Me too!

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                                      • #20
                                        Originally posted by JER View Post
                                        Hey guys! I'm starting a riding club. It's called the Just Wear Whatever Riding Club.



                                        Tails are NOT compulsory at any level.

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