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Who was Phillip Dutton talking to on the cell phone?

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  • Who was Phillip Dutton talking to on the cell phone?

    Who was Phillip Dutton talking to on the phone after he was held on course at Rolex? It didn't look as if he was retiring at that point until he got off the phone. Never saw that before.

  • #2
    the commentators speculated that he was checking in with Jan Byyny, who owns Waterfront, to see if he should call it a day or not. Again, SPECULATION, but seems likely enough to me. ????

    Thoughts from more knowledgeable folks welcome.
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    • #3
      I don't know but I suspect Jan Bynny who co-owns Waterfront to see if he should retire on course.


      • #4
        he had to have made the decision to retire the moment he picked up the phone. Had he continued on after the phone conversation he would have been E'd because of unauthorized assistance.


        • #5
          I don't know but he could have been DQ'ed for it. There is a rule against use of two way radios and cellphones while competing.
          "A little less chit-chat a little more pitter-pat"


          • #6
            Originally posted by NRB View Post
            he had to have made the decision to retire the moment he picked up the phone. Had he continued on after the phone conversation he would have been E'd because of unauthorized assistance.
            My thought exactly. What was he thinking to have a phone on course.
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            • #7
              It was a volunteers phone that he was using.
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              • #8
                Wait, what happened? He just asked a volunteer for a phone and made a phone call sitting on the horse mid-course? I'm so lost.


                • #9
                  My guess is he initiated the call while on the hold, with the intention of telling Jan that he was planning to retire.
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                  • #10
                    Yup...it was hylerious! and not only was it on the live feed online it was on the big screen TV's in the field so everyone saw it both at the event and at home.

                    Originally posted by SkipChange View Post
                    Wait, what happened? He just asked a volunteer for a phone and made a phone call sitting on the horse mid-course? I'm so lost.
                    "A little less chit-chat a little more pitter-pat"


                    • #11
                      Men don't like to ask for directions so I doubt that's what it was about.


                      • #12
                        In either case, he used the electronic device before he chose to retire, so technically he could have been DQ'd under both USEF and FEI rules.
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                        • #13
                          Was Waterfront not running well? Why was he choosing to reitre?
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                          • #14
                            I wonder if there's some sort of loophole - because he was riding someone else's horse, in this case Jan's, he was able to get permission to check in with her re: retiring? I would think after a fall like Oli's, and the lack of communication between him and Waterfront, he would want a good run up to the Hollows rather than the disruption of a hold, and in the name of safety, they may have allowed him to check in with the horse's regular rider. Just a guess?


                            • #15

                              He was waved down with a red flag by the volunteer in charge of the crossing point of the lane which you can get closer to the Normandy Bank. After he waited a few minutes he asked if someone had a cell phone so he could call the owners to see if they wanted to retire Waterfront (not him). He initially had trouble getting through but eventually did. So the owner (be it Jan or her parents who I think co-own Waterfront) made the decision not Phillip. Then he handed the phone back to the volunteer and made his way back to the direction of the start box. The only reason I know this was because I was standing at the crossing where Phillip and Waterfront were pulled up and there really is nothing more to it than that.

                              P.S. Phillip did ask who the rider was that fell and another person with a wakie talkie told him it was Oli but that is all.


                              • #16
                                Originally posted by retreadeventer View Post
                                It was a volunteers phone that he was using.
                                Of course I was figuring him for at least a Blackberry or an iphone . Next we know they will be checking scores on line
                                Grief is the price we pay for love- Gretchen Jackson


                                • #17
                                  As far as I know the rule is for every one. No unathorized assistance whether you own the horse or not. Phillip and Waterfront had already had a refusal on course which is really unusual for Phillip. Bad day but not an opportunity to call the owner!
                                  Grief is the price we pay for love- Gretchen Jackson


                                  • #18
                                    He wasn't getting assistance, though, and maybe it's one of those "at the discretion of the ground jury" things. Obviously he wasn't asking what sort of canter or line he needed to the next jump, or where #23 was.
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                                    • #19
                                      I am usually a stickler for rules (they are meant to be followed, NOT broken) BUT...

                                      He was riding a friends horse that had not had a great go. This friend has had a rather hard past several months. This friend was at Rolex and had watched/heard what was happening. She needed the direct information from him.

                                      It was the right thing for him to call her, and let her know, from HIS mouth (or the horses if you want to be punish) what was happening. I am actually very impressed he had the ability to think that quickly to call her. And knew her number! But, the one thing we know is that PD thinks quickly and efficiently. Bravo to him for thinking of the horse, and the friend before worrying about rules.


                                      • #20
                                        Whatever the rule is, I'm pretty impressed that the guy could remember the phone number.

                                        I mean besides my hubby I could not make one phone call because I don't know any phone numbers by heart ...

                                        It cracked me up to see him talking on the phone in the middle of the course during the hold. It's such a 2010 image.

                                        So, now who will be the 1st rider to Twitt' on course That would take some talent