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Anyone eventing in a Black Country Quantum?

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  • Anyone eventing in a Black Country Quantum?

    I have been looking at Black Country saddles and have tried a few although not the Quantum. Anyone use it for lower level eventing? I'm doing Begineer Novice now and we may or may not move up to Novice, but that's definitely all I want to do. The rep I talked to seemed to imply the Quantum was more of a h/j saddle, and doesn't have a model I can try at the moment. I liked the Wexford, but at times hit the cantle when getting in jumping position.

    Would appreciate your feedback. Thanks,

    SD

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    Yes. Search the Eventing forum for "Black Country Quantum" and you'll get tons of hits. A great saddle, and very appropriate for eventing. Of course it's difficult to generalize since most Quantums are custom, so each one rides a little differently.

    If you like the Wexford in all regards except the cantle, Black Country will gladly make you a Quantum seat with Wexford flaps/blocking.
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    • #3
      I've done a lot of searching and reading on here and elsewhere about Black Country Saddles. As I understand it, they make a squared cantle version of the Wexford called the Ricochet.

      The Ricochet:
      http://www.blackcountrysaddles.com/saddles/jumping/36

      The Wexford:
      http://www.blackcountrysaddles.com/saddles/jumping/37

      I believe Trumbull Moutain Tack has one for trial.

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      • #4
        I have a Quantum that I use for eventing. It's a pretty deep seat jumping saddle, and the knee/thigh blocks are substantial and removeable. I have a x-long/x-forward flap on mine. Very stable saddle. You might want something else if you were going Prelim or something, but other than that you'll be more than fine. I love mine!

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        • #5
          Luv mine. You can get a flatter seat - which I did - mine is not super deep. Luv the thigh blocks. You can basically order it made anyway you want. A friend has a Wexford and she loves hers as well.

          Have fun shopping!

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          • #6
            I have one too! Mine has extra-forward flaps and a not-so-deep seat as well. I LOVE it and so does my horse Great saddle & I intend to use it on up the levels. I came to BC from a County Eventer- too deep a seat and not forward enough through the flap for anything much over novice. Prelim questions & training drops had me landing on the cantle. Ouch!!

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            • #7
              I have one too.

              It's completely tricked out for XC: suede knee rolls and seat, oiled leather for grippiness, serge panels to make it lightweight and cooler on his back.

              Since I have a freakishly long femur, mine has an extra, extra forward, extra long flap.

              The balance is perfect and I've never enjoyed XC more!

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              • #8
                Black Country-- two trees

                There are currently two trees and three saddles in this genre.

                The Wexford and Ricochet are built on the same tree-- slightly deeper than the Quantum's tree. I have not sat in one, but the balance point also may be a tad further back.

                The quantum simply as a "more open" seat-- both a more forward balance point, but perhaps also a flatter seat. This might solve the cantle-butt slap problem.

                The Ricochet is essentially the Quantum flap and styling built onto the Wexford tree.
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                • #9
                  BigMick! you have MY saddle!

                  When I went to buy a dressage saddle through one of the Black Country dealers, she happened to have the Quantum with suede seat and knee rolls, extra, extra forward and long flaps, serge panels and suggested I just sit in it to see what I thought.

                  Um, DUH. Wowza. Took another year to buy a dressage saddle!

                  She had an upper level event rider who used the Quantum tricked out like this, and so she had a demo done up to have in the Ocala area during the spring two years ago.

                  Went home with me immediately -- and I did a 30 mile endurance ride in it the next morning.

                  I LOVE it. Totally love it. My saddle of choice for hacking, flat work, trail riding, and I've jumped some in it and foxhunted in it once.

                  Ok, I totally SUCK at jumping. I'm out of shape, have no natural feel and I'm a HUGE chicken.

                  In that saddle I feel as secure as I ever have in anything.

                  It's awesome!

                  Course, every butt likes something different, so the best you can do is to try it out.

                  Happy Shopping!

                  Libby
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                  • #10
                    Don't forget the Tex Eventer model-- very nice open seat and forward flaps.
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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Bensmom View Post
                      BigMick! you have MY saddle!

                      When I went to buy a dressage saddle through one of the Black Country dealers, she happened to have the Quantum with suede seat and knee rolls, extra, extra forward and long flaps, serge panels and suggested I just sit in it to see what I thought.

                      Um, DUH. Wowza. Took another year to buy a dressage saddle!

                      She had an upper level event rider who used the Quantum tricked out like this, and so she had a demo done up to have in the Ocala area during the spring two years ago.

                      Went home with me immediately -- and I did a 30 mile endurance ride in it the next morning.

                      I LOVE it. Totally love it. My saddle of choice for hacking, flat work, trail riding, and I've jumped some in it and foxhunted in it once.

                      Ok, I totally SUCK at jumping. I'm out of shape, have no natural feel and I'm a HUGE chicken.

                      In that saddle I feel as secure as I ever have in anything.

                      It's awesome!

                      Course, every butt likes something different, so the best you can do is to try it out.

                      Happy Shopping!

                      Libby

                      It's funny b/c when I got my saddle, I picked out every single one of the details down to the D-rings on the cantle. The dealer was so impressed, she said she was going to order a few just like them to sell/demo. I guess I think like an ULR even though I can't ride like one!!

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                      • #12
                        I think, though I may be mistaken, that the ULR that rides in one also bought a demo that she had ready, so she must have copied yours and it has sold well!

                        I think you have *excellent* taste!

                        Did I mention that I LOVE it?!
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                        • #13
                          Black Country Saddle

                          Oh so love mine! Nice and grippy makes no stirrups work fun!

                          Much softer than my Berney bros but the same balanced feel

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                            #14
                            Outyougo - which leather options did you get on your saddle?

                            Thanks,

                            SD

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                            • #15
                              Yes! I LOVE my Quantum. [edit] GORGEOUS saddle and perfectly wonderful for what you're doing. In fact, I had a professional take my pony out BN in the saddle and she had no complaints despite her being a FIRM believer in another brand of saddle (Devocoux). [edit]
                              Last edited by Moderator 1; Feb. 3, 2010, 10:31 AM.

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                              • #16
                                Black Country Vinici Advance

                                Has anyone tried the Black Country Vinici Advance? I have a BC Tex Eventer on-trial from Trumbull Mtn and I'm trying to decide if I need an EVEN MORE forward flap...

                                Trumbull Mtn doesn't stock that style but it looks like Farmhouse might. Here's a snippet about the saddle that I found from a shop in the UK in case you're not familiar. For some reason, BC doesn't have anything about this model on their website, but apparently it's different from the Vinici Tex Eventer.

                                http://www.dragonflysaddlery.co.uk/a...ing&itemid=376

                                More photos of the different styles side-by-side
                                http://www.farmhousetack.com/servlet...les/Categories

                                Thoughts on the different BC models?

                                How do I know for sure if I need a more forward flap (when stirrups are in gallop length knee is to the edge of the flap) - I've been looking through photos of ULR's going x-country and trying to figure out if this is how most people's saddles fit...?

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                                • #17
                                  My daughter rides in a Quantum. She originally was riding in an Ideal Grandee but she has a long thigh and as she grew, it started to go over the flap in the jumping position. I have watched her position become very secure over the jumps in this saddle. I think the balance is great, and it's terrific for the longer legged rider. The leather and craftsmanship are wonderful. I bought it directly from Dragonfly Saddlery in the UK, oh and it's black and looks super on our dark bay mare.

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