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  • Could I rent myself out in exchange for knowledge

    Sorry for all the posts lately!

    In my efforts to learn as much as possible on a budget, it got me thinking, Does anyone ever wish they had more hands around at a horse show?

    I figured being someones do everything person would help me learn a lot and help them be more relaxed at shows. I am on a budget, so inorder to be someone "slave" for a weekend show, I couldnt afford to drive to the venue or pay for my own hotel. So, my question is, would you haul another person (not horse. Just me) to a HT and let them sleep in your room(totally comfortable on the floor!) in exchange for them helping you with whatever you need help with at a show (including grooming, stall cleaning, trailer cleaning, whatever else you want!)? There are a lot of knowledgable people in my area who I would love to learn from! I would love to watch them warm up and do course walks with them ect.
    *Paige*
    ~*It's not about the ribbons, but about the ride behind it"
    R.I.P. Teddy O'Connor

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    I would without hesitation!
    I'd take a helper/groom in exchange for the ride, grocery food and sleeping quarters (for me that is either my trailer or a tent--unless it is super cold and a heater is needed. lol).

    After all, if I'm going alone I would need a partner in crime!
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      #3
      I would feed myself! lol I have to eat whether I am away or at home!
      *Paige*
      ~*It's not about the ribbons, but about the ride behind it"
      R.I.P. Teddy O'Connor

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      • #4
        Yes, that's called grooming for someone and it is very common for the rider to cover expenses for the groom. As you realize, the accomodations and food are not always palatial but there is much fun and education to be had!
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        • #5
          I think you should let the riders you know of in your area know that you are available for this. It could be worth having some cards printed up with your numbers, etc so people can call you if they realize their usual groom is not available or all of a sudden they are doing multiple horses, etc. I think you might find people willing to do this, especially if you can be available on short notice, etc.
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          • #6
            Originally posted by Rescue_Rider9 View Post
            Sorry for all the posts lately!

            In my efforts to learn as much as possible on a budget, it got me thinking, Does anyone ever wish they had more hands around at a horse show?

            I figured being someones do everything person would help me learn a lot and help them be more relaxed at shows. I am on a budget, so inorder to be someone "slave" for a weekend show, I couldnt afford to drive to the venue or pay for my own hotel. So, my question is, would you haul another person (not horse. Just me) to a HT and let them sleep in your room(totally comfortable on the floor!) in exchange for them helping you with whatever you need help with at a show (including grooming, stall cleaning, trailer cleaning, whatever else you want!)? There are a lot of knowledgable people in my area who I would love to learn from! I would love to watch them warm up and do course walks with them ect.

            Yes, it is not uncommon.

            Anytime my sister takes more than one horse she takes along a helper.

            You need to get the word out, and get some references.

            It might even be worth showing up at a HT, talking to the secretary, and putting up note in the secretary's office.
            Janet

            chief feeder and mucker for Music, Spy, Belle and Tiara. Someone else is now feeding and mucking for Chief and Brain (both foxhunting now).

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            • #7
              Oh man, would I ever love that. I usually am on my own (I have a trainer usually who hauls my horse, but I usually drive myself, even for 14 hour trips). My parents occasionally come to shows, but they are non-horsey, so I don't let them do too much.

              I would love to have someone willing to come with me, help with the horse, tack cleaning, etc during the show, especially during an FEI event. I would willingly pay for all their meals, and usually my hotel includes two double beds, so that would be no problem. I just can't afford to pay anyone on top of that.

              So yeah, would do so in a heart beat.

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              • #8
                Crud, COTH ate my post. This is way more random as I'm on the phone intermittently on hold. Absolutely I think you could find people to make this work. I can handle one or even two horses at a show, but it's SO nice to have someone to help. My friends and I help each other out, but even then having someone along who's young and wanting to be a real help and a knowledge sponge would be fun, and definitely worth sharing a room and paying for the help. You might find that there are a lot of people (COTHers in particular) who go to shows in "packs"--being super-organized and available to help with things like stall set-up prior to everyone's arrival, getting packets, cleaning up after everyone leaves, helping with trailer loading/unloading would be a GODSEND for a lot of folks, myself included. In return for your work and being available, friendly and enthusiastic, make "wanting to learn" a part of the agreement, not just money. Ask to and expect to be invited to go on course walks. Hold jackets in warmup and listen to the BNRs coaching. I think charging something along the lines of $20-30 per day, per rider would be reasonable, but that's just off the top of my head and I have NO idea if that's completely off-base or not. You would probably be better off marketing yourself to large groups and barns.
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                  #9
                  I dont want to be paid for it. The place to sleep and the ride up would be my payment, along with all the knowledge I gain from it.
                  *Paige*
                  ~*It's not about the ribbons, but about the ride behind it"
                  R.I.P. Teddy O'Connor

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                  • #10
                    That's pretty much what I do at shows, (though I don't generally need a ride.)

                    I simply find where my coach's group is stabled, show up, and ask, "How can I help?" I look at the schedule and park myself at the warmup to hold horses or run back and get what someone forgot. I watch and try to anticipate what someone might need.

                    I go on course walks, hanging back to let my coach concentrate on the paying customers, but listening to every word and studying the fences.

                    I love being involved, I just don't like to compete. For now, I play groom and sponsor. One day, I aspire to "owner".
                    --
                    Wendy
                    ... and Patrick

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                    • #11
                      Boy do I wish you lived in Western NY! I'd snap you up in a minute and would even go to the three recognized events up here! And I'd give you lots of experience riding ottbs and fox hunting.

                      edited to add: Enthusiastic labor is hard for anyone in horses to pass up. And I agree with other posters, you should expect at least some monetary return for your efforts. Volunteering a few times is very generous, but be careful not to underestimate your value to those you're helping.

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                      • #12
                        I dont want to be paid for it.
                        Suit yourself. I don't think it would impact amateur status, would it?

                        But here's a (free!) tip: don't sell yourself short. I would insist on paying someone for their help if I gave them the type of job described above. Even if you volunteer; if you work hard, do a good job, and someone offers to pay you for your services, you smile and say "thank you very much!".
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                        • #13
                          Life as a working student; http://hotpinkheels92.livejournal.com/

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                          • #14
                            True. As a volunteer groom, I can go sit down whenever I feel like it, and I can sleep in and/or make sure not to miss the Advanced horses on XC or whatever I want to watch after driving all that way.

                            If you're going to be at their beck and call all weekend, that's worth something (more than transportation and the extra hotel room bed, that is.)

                            It Depends, though. If people start start to take advantage of you, then you either become unavailable, or start charging them. If you are learning a ton and enjoying yourself (most likely collecting tips and free meals along the way... *I'd* feed you at least!) then it may be worth working for "free".
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                            Wendy
                            ... and Patrick

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                            • #15
                              If you were here, you'd be more than welcome!

                              I LOVE to have another set of hands, especially when I've got more than one horse to juggle! If you were in the Pac NW, you'd be more than invited along with us! Heck, if you want to come up, we'd be glad to have you along. When I can beg, borrow or steal a helper for the weekend, at the very least, i always cover dinners, drinks, coffee and the like, offer shelter with me and of course, thank them relentlessly all weekend long.
                              I think if I were you, OP, I'd start with asking people you know... folks from the barn or same trainer or friends. I can't imagine that you'd get turned down.
                              --B
                              --Becky & the gang

                              "Anyone can slay a dragon, he told me, but try waking up every morning & loving the world all over again. That's what takes a real hero." from storypeople.com

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                              • #16
                                The OP is already teaching riding lessons so it doesn't affect her current status (pro) if she takes money for grooming.

                                Since it doesnt, why don't you want money? What do you gain besides some lost sleep and some sore arm muscles? Are you getting lessons in exchange for grooming, free rides, are you schooling horses?
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                                  #17
                                  I wish I could be a working student, but unless i find a summer one, I have to finish school first. If I dont finish now, I will never go back.
                                  *Paige*
                                  ~*It's not about the ribbons, but about the ride behind it"
                                  R.I.P. Teddy O'Connor

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                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by enjoytheride View Post
                                    The OP is already teaching riding lessons so it doesn't affect her current status (pro) if she takes money for grooming.

                                    Since it doesnt, why don't you want money? What do you gain besides some lost sleep and some sore arm muscles? Are you getting lessons in exchange for grooming, free rides, are you schooling horses?
                                    I dont feel like I should get paid for it.. I mean, I dont think I would be that great of an asset...maybe I just dont know what goes in to it, but I have taken care of my horse at an event before and it didnt seem that hard.. It just would have been nice to have someone else do everything else for me..
                                    *Paige*
                                    ~*It's not about the ribbons, but about the ride behind it"
                                    R.I.P. Teddy O'Connor

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                                    • #19
                                      If you are ever out in California, drop me a line. I would love to have help either when I am competing or volunteering. One thing you might want to try is contacting events that are fairly close and asking the volunteer coordinator if you can help. Often times they have volunteers coming from all over and maybe able to suggest someone to hitch a ride with. They can be miracle workers, especially if they need more people. Volunteering is great, it makes it so you can help everyone there at least a little bit. It also makes a great way to learn.

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                                      • #20
                                        Originally posted by Rescue_Rider9 View Post
                                        I dont feel like I should get paid for it.. I mean, I dont think I would be that great of an asset...maybe I just dont know what goes in to it, but I have taken care of my horse at an event before and it didnt seem that hard.. It just would have been nice to have someone else do everything else for me..
                                        Maybe not at first, but once you know the ropes of the particular person it would be worth charging. It's a lot more work than you think if the rider is OCD. Like me. I clean the stall every morning, afternoon, and evening. I'm obsessive about organization. Once you start braiding for the person, you should definitely be charging. I am super picky about my braids, so I won't let anyone else braid for me unless I've seen and approved their braids first. Same with quarter marks. I want someone who can take my horse from me after XC, and if it is an FEI event, knows how to handle the vet box. I would want you to help clean all my show tack, which gets taken apart, cleaned, and condition at every show after I am done using it. Etc, etc, etc.

                                        My point is that while you were still learning how I liked things, and needed supervision, I would just pay for your food, let you share my hotel room for free. Once you could do unsupervised stuff without me asking, then I would be happy to pay you something, ESPECIALLY if you braided for me.

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