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  • Amy Tryon Case?

    Has anyone heard what is going on with the AT abuse case? Has there been any decision of any kind or is it just going away or being swept under the carpet? Haven't read a thing about it in weeks.

  • #2
    There was an announcement of the date of the hearing. I forget the precise date, but it was at the end of June. So we should have some news then.

    chief feeder and mucker for Music, Spy, Belle and Tiara. Someone else is now feeding and mucking for Chief and Brain (both foxhunting now).


    • #3

      Update regarding the case of alleged abuse at CCI 4* Lexington (USA)

      In relation to the case of alleged abuse involving rider Amy Tryon (USA) and horse Le Samurai which occurred on 28 April 2007 at CCI 4* Lexington, please be informed that rider Amy Tryon has requested a hearing and in turn, the FEI has scheduled a hearing to be held on 25 June in Lausanne.
      The above post is an opinion, just an opinion. If it were a real live fact it would include supporting links to websites full of people who already agreed with me.



      • #4
        In light of the fact

        that she is under investigation, why can she still compete?? Not trying to cause trouble but in professional sports and olympic sports they are sidelined until a ruling takes place.


        • #5
          you are guilty until proven innocent

          Originally posted by Sannois View Post
          that she is under investigation, why can she still compete?? Not trying to cause trouble but in professional sports and olympic sports they are sidelined until a ruling takes place.
          I think you are trying to cause trouble. I think you should be banned from the COTH until an international investigative panel can hold a hearing in Europe as to your status. You should know something one way or the other by mid-August, okay?


          • #6
            Originally posted by groom View Post
            I think you are trying to cause trouble. I think you should be banned from the COTH until an international investigative panel can hold a hearing in Europe as to your status. You should know something one way or the other by mid-August, okay?
            Oh please! Sannois hasn't killed a wonderful, talented horse in the prime of life. Amy Tryon did.


            • #7
              So she has to go to Switzerland for the hearing? or will it be by video link?
              A man must love a thing very much if he not only practices it without any hope of fame or money, but even practices it without any hope of doing it well.--G. K. Chesterton


              • #8
                groom- Sannois didn't attack AT, she asked a valid question. I was also curious of the same thing.

                If she is found guilty-- will it have any effect on her placings since Rolex?


                • #9
                  Originally posted by Sannois View Post
                  that she is under investigation, why can she still compete?? Not trying to cause trouble but in professional sports and olympic sports they are sidelined until a ruling takes place.
                  Neither USEF or FEI has yet suspended her. (and they may or may not) And I think your intrepretation of what happens in professional sports is a bit skewed. Until an investigation is completed, no penalities are assessed in just about every sport I know of. It's just that in this case the investigation is taking longer than perhaps a NFL drug violation might.



                  • #10
                    Groom -

                    Sannois was asking a question that many, many people around the world are also asking ... OK???

                    A good/non-emotional discussion (started by T. Holekamp) of the issue is at:



                    • #11
                      I think groom was trying for sarcastic humor, hence the wink at the end. That's how I read it, for what that's worth.

                      I think Sannois poses an interesting question and I'm curious to hear more from the more knowledgeable people.
                      Full-time bargain hunter.


                      • #12

                        Seemed to have made someone mad. I think its a legit question, And apparently others do as well. I still love the sport of eventing even though I am no longer competing, maybe that makes me ineligble to ask questions??
                        Oops or I missed the wink and humor! Edited to add!!


                        • #13
                          I believe this was discussed ad nausem in the multiple other threads where people were "asking" about why she could continue to compete. It is an innocent until proven guilty thing. If you don't like it then petition the appropriate parties but I believe that basically sums it up.

                          And groom was being sarcastically funny.
                          Grab mane and kick on!



                          • #14
                            Well, sarcastic at any rate.


                            • #15
                              Originally posted by flyingchange View Post
                              Groom -

                              Sannois was asking a question that many, many people around the world are also asking ... OK???

                              A good/non-emotional discussion (started by T. Holekamp) of the issue is at:

                              Flyingchange, thanks for posting that link. It's a great discussion. Interestingly, when I discussed the Tryon incident with my own military husband (who foxhunts and trains dressage but does not compete nor event), his comment was that the four-star 3DE was originally conceived to test the horse and rider whose lives depended on the performance, and he wonders why on earth that degree of risk is still acceptable for "sport" or "competition" when horses' and riders' lives are at stake but their lives don't depend on the outcome any.
                              Hindsight bad, foresight good.


                              • #16
                                Originally posted by JAM View Post
                                Well, sarcastic at any rate.
                                Bwahahahahaha!!! Good one, JAM.
                                If the Number 2 pencil is so popular, why is it still number 2?


                                • #17
                                  Thanks, Canterlope. You may not think so kindly of me after my most recent post on the 3-hit thread, but remember it's all in good sport and in the interest of provoking serious discussion!


                                  • #18
                                    I just find it disturbing to hear that she flew Poggio over to do the Jersey Fresh after he had competed on the west coast the previous weekend. I think a suspension until the hearing when it's an "animal abuse" allogation would at least protect the other animals in the meantime....


                                    • #19

                                      I just read the posts on the military forum and had the following reactions:

                                      1. The Rolex example was presented with an extreme bias. The question being asked on the forum was silly. Even though Eventing has its roots in the military, it is only recognized by way of a nod in today's world. It would be like asking the same forum for a serious ruling on a paint ball incident. The question was setup to elicit a certain type of response from this group.
                                      2. Now we are the "little people"??? How rude is that? I really, really resent this type of thinking. A lot of us "little people" are highly respected professionals in fields that are much more suited to evaluating an incident such as this then some of the upper level Eventers who bring their own personal baggage to the table. I would argue that some riders, whose entire livelihood is wrapped up in the Eventing world, are too close to see the forest for the trees. (Note: I said some not all riders.) We "little people" can often be more objective because our whole world is not at risk.
                                      3. It is amusing to me that the owner of a horse that several posters on this list feel is being ridden into the ground is springing to the defense of the horse versus the rider who may or may not have sacrificed the horse in pursuant of her own personal objectives. It's that "people in glass houses" syndrome.
                                      4. This B.B. does seem to be 50-50 for or against Amy. I question whether the percentage is so high against Amy at the upper levels. I wonder how many riders Tim has actually talked to in order to reach this conclusion. I don't think that he personally rides at the advance level so his personal opinion has to be filed with the "little people".

                                      Tim obviously didn't want an objective military analysis of this situation. All his posts do is expand the controversy to a wider group which, quite frankly, we don't need at this point.

                                      I honestly don't know what to think about this situation. I saw the big screen version at Rolex but I'm still undecided. In critical situations, I have been both fast and slow to make a decision so it is hard for me to judge Amy who I don't know at all. Regardless, this kind of post makes me burn.


                                      • #20
                                        many of the BNRs live in a different reality - Amy appears to be no different.
                                        ~ it no longer matters what level I do, as long as I am doing it..~ with many thanks, to Elizabeth Callahan