• Welcome to the Chronicle Forums.
    Please complete your profile. The forums and the rest of www.chronofhorse.com has single sign-in, so your log in information for one will automatically work for the other. Disclaimer: The opinions expressed here are the views of the individual and do not necessarily reflect the views and opinions of The Chronicle of the Horse.

Announcement

Collapse

Forum rules and no-advertising policy

As a participant on this forum, it is your responsibility to know and follow our rules. Please read this message in its entirety.

Board Rules

1. You’re responsible for what you say.
As outlined in Section 230 of the Communications Decency Act, The Chronicle of the Horse and its affiliates, as well Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd., the developers of vBulletin, are not legally responsible for statements made in the forums.

This is a public forum viewed by a wide spectrum of people, so please be mindful of what you say and who might be reading it—details of personal disputes are likely better handled privately. While posters are legally responsible for their statements, the moderators may in their discretion remove or edit posts that violate these rules. Users have the ability to modify or delete their own messages after posting, but administrators generally will not delete posts, threads or accounts upon request.

Outright inflammatory, vulgar, harassing, malicious or otherwise inappropriate statements and criminal charges unsubstantiated by a reputable news source or legal documentation will not be tolerated and will be dealt with at the discretion of the moderators.

2. Conversations in horse-related forums should be horse-related.
The forums are a wonderful source of information and support for members of the horse community. While it’s understandably tempting to share information or search for input on other topics upon which members might have a similar level of knowledge, members must maintain the focus on horses.

3. Keep conversations productive, on topic and civil.
Discussion and disagreement are inevitable and encouraged; personal insults, diatribes and sniping comments are unproductive and unacceptable. Whether a subject is light-hearted or serious, keep posts focused on the current topic and of general interest to other participants of that thread. Utilize the private message feature or personal email where appropriate to address side topics or personal issues not related to the topic at large.

4. No advertising in the discussion forums.
Posts in the discussion forums directly or indirectly advertising horses, jobs, items or services for sale or wanted will be removed at the discretion of the moderators. Use of the private messaging feature or email addresses obtained through users’ profiles for unsolicited advertising is not permitted.

Company representatives may participate in discussions and answer questions about their products or services, or suggest their products on recent threads if they fulfill the criteria of a query. False "testimonials" provided by company affiliates posing as general consumers are not appropriate, and self-promotion of sales, ad campaigns, etc. through the discussion forums is not allowed.

Paid advertising is available on our classifieds site and through the purchase of banner ads. The tightly monitored Giveaways forum permits free listings of genuinely free horses and items available or wanted (on a limited basis). Items offered for trade are not allowed.

Advertising Policy Specifics
When in doubt of whether something you want to post constitutes advertising, please contact a moderator privately in advance for further clarification. Refer to the following points for general guidelines:

Horses – Only general discussion about the buying, leasing, selling and pricing of horses is permitted. If the post contains, or links to, the type of specific information typically found in a sales or wanted ad, and it’s related to a horse for sale, regardless of who’s selling it, it doesn’t belong in the discussion forums.

Stallions – Board members may ask for suggestions on breeding stallion recommendations. Stallion owners may reply to such queries by suggesting their own stallions, only if their horse fits the specific criteria of the original poster. Excessive promotion of a stallion by its owner or related parties is not permitted and will be addressed at the discretion of the moderators.

Services – Members may use the forums to ask for general recommendations of trainers, barns, shippers, farriers, etc., and other members may answer those requests by suggesting themselves or their company, if their services fulfill the specific criteria of the original post. Members may not solicit other members for business if it is not in response to a direct, genuine query.

Products – While members may ask for general opinions and suggestions on equipment, trailers, trucks, etc., they may not list the specific attributes for which they are in the market, as such posts serve as wanted ads.

Event Announcements – Members may post one notification of an upcoming event that may be of interest to fellow members, if the original poster does not benefit financially from the event. Such threads may not be “bumped” excessively. Premium members may post their own notices in the Event Announcements forum.

Charities/Rescues – Announcements for charitable or fundraising events can only be made for 501(c)(3) tax-exempt organizations. Special exceptions may be made, at the moderators’ discretion and direction, for board-related events or fundraising activities in extraordinary circumstances.

Occasional posts regarding horses available for adoption through IRS-registered horse rescue or placement programs are permitted in the appropriate forums, but these threads may be limited at the discretion of the moderators. Individuals may not advertise or make announcements for horses in need of rescue, placement or adoption unless the horse is available through a recognized rescue or placement agency or government-run entity or the thread fits the criteria for and is located in the Giveaways forum.

5. Do not post copyrighted photographs unless you have purchased that photo and have permission to do so.

6. Respect other members.
As members are often passionate about their beliefs and intentions can easily be misinterpreted in this type of environment, try to explore or resolve the inevitable disagreements that arise in the course of threads calmly and rationally.

If you see a post that you feel violates the rules of the board, please click the “alert” button (exclamation point inside of a triangle) in the bottom left corner of the post, which will alert ONLY the moderators to the post in question. They will then take whatever action, or no action, as deemed appropriate for the situation at their discretion. Do not air grievances regarding other posters or the moderators in the discussion forums.

Please be advised that adding another user to your “Ignore” list via your User Control Panel can be a useful tactic, which blocks posts and private messages by members whose commentary you’d rather avoid reading.

7. We have the right to reproduce statements made in the forums.
The Chronicle of the Horse may copy, quote, link to or otherwise reproduce posts, or portions of posts, in print or online for advertising or editorial purposes, if attributed to their original authors, and by posting in this forum, you hereby grant to The Chronicle of the Horse a perpetual, non-exclusive license under copyright and other rights, to do so.

8. We reserve the right to enforce and amend the rules.
The moderators may delete, edit, move or close any post or thread at any time, or refrain from doing any of the foregoing, in their discretion, and may suspend or revoke a user’s membership privileges at any time to maintain adherence to the rules and the general spirit of the forum. These rules may be amended at any time to address the current needs of the board.

Please see our full Terms of Service and Privacy Policy for more information.

Thanks for being a part of the COTH forums!

(Revised 1/26/16)
See more
See less

Jumping Exercises When Showing a Horse

Collapse
X
  • Filter
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts

  • Jumping Exercises When Showing a Horse

    My 9 year old training level eventer is for sale. He is the first horse I have sold (and owned!) so am a little clueless on how it works. He also was the first horse I looked at when I bought him and an OTTB so I've never had the experience myself either. I have my first showing on him tomorrow and was wondering what people like to see when they are looking at horses. He jumps up to 3'9" courses and up to 4'3" in grids. I figured that I would leave him in the field and have the potential buyer come with me to get him, then do his normal grooming routine. I would warm him up, showing the dressage movements he knows, and do some jumping then let them ride. Does this sound like a normal plan? Should I do my usual warm up which entails about 10 min of walking/lateral work, then bending exercises at the trot, and a light seated canter or something shorter? What jumping exercises should I set up?

    Thanks so much!

  • #2
    Set a line, vetical to ramped oxer, have horae trot in canter out; halt on a line; be sure he will do this on loopy reins; make the horse seem "easy They may be bringing a trainer/ friend who, will ride the horse aas well as, ask to see certain movements/ tricks
    breeder of Mercury!

    remember to enjoy the moment, and take a moment to enjoy and give God the glory for these wonderful horses in our lives.BECAUSE: LIFE is What Happens While Making Other Plans

    Comment


    • #3
      When I am looking at horses, I prefer to have them somewhat tacked up and ready when I get there, just to save time. I like to see what a normal warmup is for the horse, and the same thing over fences- a few warmup fences and then a small course (including a combination, skinny, etc), then raise the fences and do a bigger course. I probably wouldn't care too much about a grid if it's the first time I'm seeing the horse. Then I usually would want to get on after I've seen the horse do a somewhat normal routine. Depending on the horse, sometimes an explanation of why you do your warmup a certain way is helpful as well. Hope this helps and good luck!
      No Trouble
      2/2/05 - 7/29/13
      Rest In Peace my quirky brave boy, I will love you forever.

      Comment


      • #4
        Your plan is fine; he does NOT need to jump a 4 foot course; ask them what they want to see/ do; but remember, if you would make God laugh, tell him your plans
        breeder of Mercury!

        remember to enjoy the moment, and take a moment to enjoy and give God the glory for these wonderful horses in our lives.BECAUSE: LIFE is What Happens While Making Other Plans

        Comment


        • #5
          I would prefer to see the horse in the field. Ground manners are make or break for me and if I can't catch the SOB and he spends the grooming session bitting me then I'll pass.

          I'd want him to see about 10 - 15 minutes of flat work involving his whole bag of tricks, some trot fences proving he has the ability to wait, and then a course proving he can do changes and string things together.

          If I'm looking for something that might jump bigger eventually then a max height grid but when it boils down to it a horse can often jump higher in a grid and then not put it together for a course.
          http://weanieeventer.blogspot.com/

          Comment


          • #6
            Ha! I SO could give a rat's butt about how they are to catch in the field! I have ways of catching hard ones, so the catching thing doesn't bother me in the least, and 90% of the horses that come into this barn that supposedly have "great" ground manners have bad ones in my book, anyway, so I always end up fixing that, too. As long as they aren't killers, I am happy if I can see them get tacked up (and if I'm shopping for an ammie or a kid, I do like to see them in the barn, because I want to know whatever we get for them isn't going to kill them the day they are unsupervised in the barn).

            I would suggest just setting some fun stuff up in the ring and play a bit over what's there. Some related distances are good, a skinny is good. Something you can kinda gallop to, like a rampy oxer. I wouldn't sweat it too much. I know when we look, we usually get on after a couple of jumps, and it seems like when people come to look at OUR horses they get on after a couple of jumps (or go home).

            As for the flatwork, just do a normal day's type ride. Do be sure to show that he can do 15m circles and trot and canter legthenings if he's a training horse. If he's got good other things, show them, too. Try not to school him, just ride him (this is hard for me).
            Amanda

            Comment


            • #7
              When I show people a horse, I have it super clean/groomed and standing in a stall in the barn. I have all the tack and boots it wears next to the crossties so I am not wasting anyone's time. I used to let people use their own saddles, but I've had so many that didn't fit the horse, that I try to always use the one we have fitted to the horse. I also have any pertinent information in a folder they can keep. It will include copies of the horse's USEA record, some good dressage tests, any good photos, registration papers and perhaps a DVD of a good footage from a competition.

              We take the horse out to the ring and do very simple flat work for about 5 minutes, then ask the prospective buyer and or trainer what they would like to see. Usually it is a few crossrails and then the trainer or buyer hop on. At that point I usually let them play with the horse as they wish on their own. Most times if they spend more than 15 minutes riding the horse they like it. If they want, we take the horse crosscountry or on a trail ride, crossing water and other important obstacles.

              When I try a horse, I know in 5 minutes if I like the horse. Some people are offended if you dismiss it without spending a much time watching or riding it. If I don't like a horse right away, then more time spent isn't going to improve my decision.

              First impressions are everything. I would never collect a horse out of the field. It might have just rolled in the mud and then time is wasted by cleaning it up.
              Virginia Field Hunters
              https://m.facebook.com/vafieldhunters?ref=bookmark

              https://m.facebook.com/studconcertogrosso?ref=bookmark CONCERTO GROSSO

              Comment


              • #8
                Depends

                I work for my trainers and we have a lot of people come look at everything from upper level jumpers to novice event horses.

                I would say that a lot depends on what they are looking for. If he goes training and is advertised as such he does not need to jump over 3'3. I find everyone is different some want more flat work some want more jumping some want water ditch bank. It all depends.

                Has your guy shown?? If so he has less to prove at a trial then a non showing horse. If you have shown then your scores speak for them-self and all that is left is for them to like and get along with the horse.

                Horse trials are a fun and new thing every time. Basic rules, show off what he does well. Be honest about what needs work. If it is not going well don't be afraid to speak up and say you don't think it is the right horse for them.

                Just what I notice working in a sale barn. I think you'll do fine regardless seems like they either love them or hate them!! I was even around when one lady told my trainer it was fate and she had to have the horse! It's a crazy world out there but we are horse people so figures I guess!! Good luck have fun.
                grand prix

                Comment


                • #9
                  I like to see a horse caught out in the field and groomed also. Personally, if a horse has really bad manners and is tough to catch, I'd walk away. I want a horse who enjoys his job as much as I do.

                  In the winter it's hard, but I'd bring the horse in about an hour or so before the appointment and groom him up so he looks nice, throw a blanket on him and toss him back out in the field and hope he doesn't roll.

                  As far as riding, I'd like to see the horse's normal routine- whatever kind of warmup you normally do is great and I'd explain to the potential buyers why you're doing it.

                  For jumping, I think a line like someone else suggested is good, and then a few single fences so the buyer can ride him over a small course.
                  Cascadia- OTTB mare. 04/04-05/10
                  If love could have saved you, you would have lived forever

                  Comment


                  • #10
                    Since it seems that catching the horse and seeing ground manners may be a deal breaker for some prospective buyers but a waste of time for others, it may be easier to ask ahead of time if they want you to wait for them before catching the horse, or if you should have it ready to tack up (or already tacked up). That way you will meet their expectations at least for that part. Good luck!
                    ___________________________________________
                    "Another member of the Barefoot Eventers Clique"

                    Comment

                    • Original Poster

                      #11
                      Thanks guys! I'm getting nervous! It feels like a horse show! This woman is looking for her daughters and casually mentioned that she rode around Burghley and Badminton when she was younger so I'm feeling a little unworthy !

                      Comment


                      • #12
                        Don't get too nervous about WHO the person is - especially if they are shopping for daughters and/or students. Ride the horse to the best of your ability but don't worry about how you look or how well you do. They want to see an imperfect ride, particularly for an ammy horse - which most of us can deliver!

                        Comment


                        • #13
                          Originally posted by CatchMeIfUCan View Post
                          Thanks guys! I'm getting nervous! It feels like a horse show! This woman is looking for her daughters and casually mentioned that she rode around Burghley and Badminton when she was younger so I'm feeling a little unworthy !

                          If true...that is even better. She will know what she is looking at and have the right sort of expectations. I hated showing horses to newbies......

                          Bottom line...you can't make them like your horse. They either will or they wont. Show them what he is and tell them what you like/love about him...and a bit about what you consider his weakness. You want him to be sold into a home that likes him for what he is.
                          ** Tact is the ability to tell someone to go to hell in such a way that they look forward to the trip. ~Winston Churchill? **

                          Comment


                          • #14
                            Originally posted by clm08 View Post
                            Since it seems that catching the horse and seeing ground manners may be a deal breaker for some prospective buyers but a waste of time for others, it may be easier to ask ahead of time if they want you to wait for them before catching the horse, or if you should have it ready to tack up (or already tacked up). That way you will meet their expectations at least for that part. Good luck!

                            This is a very smart idea.
                            http://www.MyVirtualEventingCoach.com

                            Comment

                            Working...
                            X