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Another HJ-->eventing question: gear? esp. saddle.USEA membership for WS?

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  • Another HJ-->eventing question: gear? esp. saddle.USEA membership for WS?

    Hi everyone,

    If I do get a WS job for an eventer, what will I need that I don't already have? This is assuming that I will have a horse with me to ride, lesson on and possibly compete.

    My list was:

    body protector

    White breeches (?) do I need them? What are the rules about white vs. beige?

    Saddle: My saddle is the epitome of a equitation saddle, a 2004 (especially flat year) flat seat butet without knee rolls or blocks of any sort. I assume that won't be appropriate for XC?
    Would I be ok just having knee rolls added or do I need a deeper seated saddle with thigh blocks and prominent knee rolls?
    Sorry I sound so ignorant, but from pictures I've seen of XC and XC saddles, my butet won't cut it.

    Also, I will need a USEA membership, right?

    My CO gr8 (black and grey) will be an appropriate helmet for all three phases, right?

    Thanks!!
    "If we we couldn't laugh we'd all go insane, if we weren't all crazy we'd all go insane." ~Jimmy Buffet
    "Pursuing the life of my high-riding heroes I burned up my childhood days..."-Willie Nelson

  • #2
    Anything you wear in the hunter or eq ring will be appropriate for dressage and show jumping. You DO NOT need white britches, and I, personally, think they are far too formal for the lower levels. Beige is more than fine. Your helmet is totally fine, too.

    The only thing you really need that you wouldn't use in the h/j world is a vest and a medical arm band. Arm band is easy...10 bucks and you can get them just about anywhere.

    You could get a stock tie if you want to fit in a bit more in dressage warm up, but it is not necessary. A ratcatcher shirt is appropriate.

    You don't NEED a USEA membership if you aren't going above BN, but they are very nice to have. The only thing you need to make sure you do is read the rulebook...all of it. It is on the USEA and USEF websites and can be purchased from USEA if you rather have an actual book. I also always recommend the easy little read, "The Starting Box", also available on the USEA website.

    If you are comfortable in your saddle, it should be fine. I wouldn't do a saddle change until you've schooled a little xc and galloped in it a bit and know if you still feel secure in it or not. When I first started eventing, I rode in a pancake of a Barnsby. When I started my WS position, the trainer changed my position so much that it no longer felt secure. I rode in his GF's saddle (who is almost exactly the same size I am) for awhile that offered a lot more security, then eventually bought a real xc saddle. Hopefully, in the right situation, you won't have to run out and buy brand new everything and the trainer will have things you can borrow or try out or buy used for a lot less. I wouldn't buy a saddle, either, until you are in the program and the trainer can help you decide which type of saddle will suit you.
    Amanda

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    • #3
      ditto all of yb's good advice!
      The big man -- my lost prince

      The little brother, now my main man

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      • #4
        If you go to a true competition/teaching barn as a working student, don't worry about what you take other than warm clothes (the girls are out in -9oF wind chill right now - the horses needs take precedence) and a good attitude. Your coach/mentor/employer should be happy to advise you (you'll pick it up fast, just by observing the other students and customers). Buddy up with someone who's done it before.

        I would emphasize the importance of safety gear; buy the best helmet and vest you can afford, and I always emphasize leg protection for your horse. Second priority are your boots, stirrup leathers, and reins. You can skimp on the rest. DON'T go out and buy a bunch of stuff before you go, because every barn has its own "rights and wrongs" when it comes to equipment. You wouldn't want to buy it twice. Take what you have and adapt; impress people with your work ethic and your positive attitude, not your tack.

        The best things about eventing:
        1. You'll make a new friend(s) at every event.
        2. You'll be competing against the courses and the tests, not your fellow eventers.
        3. Cheap is appropriate. It's why you usually see us riding offtrack TB's.

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          #5
          Originally posted by secretariat View Post
          I
          The best things about eventing:
          1. You'll make a new friend(s) at every event.
          2. You'll be competing against the courses and the tests, not your fellow eventers.
          3. Cheap is appropriate. It's why you usually see us riding offtrack TB's.
          You mean I won't

          1. Watch people get yelled at all day?
          2. Never win because I can't shell out 50k+?
          3. ***

          I love eventing and I haven't even tried yet!!

          Thanks everyone for the good advice =)
          "If we we couldn't laugh we'd all go insane, if we weren't all crazy we'd all go insane." ~Jimmy Buffet
          "Pursuing the life of my high-riding heroes I burned up my childhood days..."-Willie Nelson

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          • #6
            I event in a butet and LOVE that saddle. If you feel balanced in it you should be A-OK. I know they are flat but some people even find blocks to interfere more than help. You will be fine in that saddle x-c at the lower levels.

            Good luck!
            "We can judge the heart of a man by his treatment of animals" Immanuel Kant

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            • #7
              Beau - that's the beauty of eventing. In the eventing barns I know, you won't be yelled at, period (although it's possible if you're goofing off or not taking care of the horses). You should see ME ride (or NOT!!!).

              Our top 2 horses, this year, successfully completed Fair Hill CCI** in the mud. The 8 year old finished in the top 4 of his I & P entries 83% of the time, winning 17%. He was a $2000 claimer at Fairmont (St. Louis). The 10 year old finished in the top 3 at 86% of his Preliminary starts, winning 29% and the area Prelim championship along with a USEA Gold Medal at preliminary. He came off the killer truck, and we had to convince the horse dealer to sell him to us for $600 because he was "too dangerous to ride."

              We'd love to meet you if you come to the midwest. If you're at Rolex, please stop by the farm and say Hi!

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              • #8
                Beau, as an eventer, you will be expected to
                a) know the proper uses of duct tape (hint, almost everything)
                b) know when it's the right time to crack a cold beer (hint, almost always)
                and
                c) help out fellow eventers you have never met before, without question (with a beer, with duct tape, always appropriate).

                Bonus points for getting totally miscombobulated over a fence, realizing you have not actually fallen off, and continuing on with renewed enthusiasm.

                Double bonus points for shaking off a mediocre dressage test for a kick-a** cross country run.

                That's pretty much the sport, in a nutshell.
                The big man -- my lost prince

                The little brother, now my main man

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by asterix View Post
                  Beau, as an eventer, you will be expected to
                  a) know the proper uses of duct tape (hint, almost everything)
                  b) know when it's the right time to crack a cold beer (hint, almost always)
                  and
                  c) help out fellow eventers you have never met before, without question (with a beer, with duct tape, always appropriate).

                  Bonus points for getting totally miscombobulated over a fence, realizing you have not actually fallen off, and continuing on with renewed enthusiasm.

                  Double bonus points for shaking off a mediocre dressage test for a kick-a** cross country run.

                  That's pretty much the sport, in a nutshell.
                  All of this. (though, I believe Beau is still under age, so you should probably NOT be going around cracking open beers Forgive me if I'm mistaken and you are in fact of legal age).

                  I'm always amazed at the healing powers of a fantastic xc go! I've had some ROTTEN dressage tests (the day little mare REFUSED to trot her trot circles and crow hopped and humped her back through all the canter work AND showed off her fancy flying changes) and/or scores that have made me go (too many to count), but the xc goes after them have allowed me to forgive all sins- mine, horses, or judges.
                  Amanda

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by secretariat View Post
                    Beau - that's the beauty of eventing. In the eventing barns I know, you won't be yelled at, period (although it's possible if you're goofing off or not taking care of the horses).
                    Ugh I think I worked at the wrong eventing barn...

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