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  • Off the Track Quarter horses?

    Just wondering how many people purchase off the track QH's to Event. I am not even sure where you would get them, and I know a lot of them go to Barrel racing homes, but I have a racing breed AQHA now and was just wondering who else has them for eventing... I mean.. they do have a TON of TB in them! haha
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    I have a friend that has one QH cross that is barely 15 hands (with shoes) that she took to training and could have done T3D with her too. She also has one QH filly that she is keeping for a prospect, and another that is 9 I believe that is also successfully going training, she looks just like a warmblood. I have no idea what if either of the last two were racing bred, but they are very nice. Hope I helped!
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    • #3
      In Texas, lopetx.org does the same thing CANTER does but has a section for QH's and other breeds. Right now looks like a bunch of older retirees, but I've seen plenty of young OTTQHs there, too.
      I evented just for the Halibut.

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      • #4
        I have a racing-bred QH that is a jumper, but he would be a terrific eventer. The first time I took him out XC schooling he easily did a wide range of prelim questions (he was doing 4'6 jumper courses at the time so the prelim jumps looked small to him). Dressage would be a struggle. He did not spend time on the track -- when I bought him he was a barrel racer.

        I'm a huge fan of the Appendix -- mine is a powerhouse. I love the quarter horse butt. However, he does not have the quarter horse brain. Here are a variety of pics of him: http://pets.webshots.com/album/120919510IHNZMo

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        • #5
          I have a friend that really wanted an OTTB. However, she would not be a good match for most OTTBs.

          We'd always joke with her that she should get an OTQH because if it took off with her i'd get tired and stop after a 1/4 mile or a OTSB because it would just trot away with her!
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          • #6
            By pedigree, isn't a racing QH allowed to be upto 15/16th TB?
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            • #7
              We "acquired" one (by which I mean her former owner abandoned her here and disappeared after the economic downturn ate up his portfolio, and the courts then had her signed over to us).

              She is AMAZING. She's come along very quickly, and will go prelim next spring if she doesn't sell. She's been in the ribbons at her last two Training events. The only thing that gives away that she isn't full TB are her size (15.1), her color (that dark liver color that seems fairly particular to QH's) and she's got just a touch more "back" (in the Sir Mixalot sense) than the average TB.

              Great attitude, huge jump, and huge stride. The flat work has been challenging thanks to her having a stop off in a barrel barn between the track and us that got her pretty worried about the bridle, so it's been hard for her to trust being steady on the contact. Mr. PF loves her and would love to keep her for himself. Just as soon as that money tree sprouts, I'll let that happen.

              You can see a video of her here.

              I'd love to have another one, just a bit bigger, LOL, but she's great.
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              • #8
                Yup, sure is! But, most of them aren't, FWIW. The QH's that you see that are mostly TB are the HUS bred types at are 17h+ monsters. At least, that's how it was ten years ago when I left the breed show scene, but from what little I've dabbled with, I don't think it's changed much.

                Racing QH's still need their original power source! They were originally bred down from sprinting TB's. But, I don't know much about racing QH bloodlines other than they tend to be smaller and stouter, like a sprinting TB.
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                • #9
                  I have one. Mine actually raced. He came in second twice, and 3rd a few more times but never actually won. He is actually is a dressage barn reject because he was never quite mastered the changes to do 3rd level, so eventing dressage is easy for him. I took him Novice at one rec. event before I got pregnant and my priorities shifted. He is definitely more of a "kick" ride jumping (could be because he's a bit rusty from all those years doing dressage) than most of the TBs I've owned, but is quite forward and light off the leg in dressage. He does not at all look like a typical QH. He is 16.3 and has more of a warmblood build. It's the butt that gives him away! If you look at his pedigree he is just about half TB. He is such a solid citizen-- hard worker, no monkey buisiness. I give my 2 year old pony rides on him all the time. I would take another like him in a heartbeat! Here are some pics. http://good-times.webshots.com/photo...00130574dGDnLo

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                  • #10
                    My OTTQH is 16.3 and competed at prelim and one intermediate with good dressage scores. I don't know his race record- his tattoo is really faded...At 20 he is packing my daughter around baby novice...he has a very mellow personality but definitely remembers his previous life as a racehorse (when galloping in company) and as an UL event horse (on his way to the start box). He has a big rangy frame with legs like tree trunks, is tough as nails, wise as an owl, and I would clone him in an instant!

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                    • #11
                      I have one! But mine is 100%QH not Appendix! She has white AQHA papers (versus yellow that are Appendix papers). Missy raced at Delta Downs in Louisiana. She wasnt super fast but ran in about 40 races.

                      She jumps 3'6" like it is 2'3". I have done the 3'6" Jumper course on her and schooled Novice and a few Training jumps. I havent shown her yet (due to $) but she is bold XC, amazing to ride, and jumps like she has springs in her feet.
                      RIP Kid Gloves (Holly) 1992 TBxHanv CCI*** mare.
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                      New mare: Miss Bunny Express (Missy) 1995 AQHA Jumper mare.
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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by PhoenixFarm View Post
                        You can see a video of her here.
                        Your video is private -- I can't see it.

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                        • #13
                          Granted my guy is 16 now, but he was an OTTQH. He was born and raised in Orange, TX (breeder Virgle Spence). His pedigree is here, and that 1/4 TB definitely did him some good. After racing, Trey had a brief stint in barrel racing before becoming a 3'6 - 3'9 jumper for six years. Then I bought him, and we learned eventing together. He's a hot, but powerful jumper. Definitely taught me how to ride.
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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Sithly View Post
                            Your video is private -- I can't see it.
                            Wow, I had no idea that was even possible. I should have it fixed now. Guess I'm glad I responded to this thread, I had no idea that video had been set to private, LOL. My other one wasn't . . . very odd.

                            All fixed. Enjoy!
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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by tx3dayeventer View Post
                              I have one! But mine is 100%QH not Appendix! She has white AQHA papers (versus yellow that are Appendix papers).

                              Appendix can earn their permanent papers and convert to white if they meet a certain performance standard by a certain age. Once they do, their offspring would get the white papers.

                              If you pull you mare's 5 generation pedigree, you are going to see alot of TB.

                              We had a discussion about this over in Hunterland a few months back and found most of the successful QHs competing over fences in either Open or Breed shows had alot of TB.

                              It is a good choice on a budget and they make great horses.
                              When opportunity knocks it's wearing overalls and looks like work.

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                              • #16
                                Originally posted by PhoenixFarm View Post
                                We "acquired" one (by which I mean her former owner abandoned her here and disappeared after the economic downturn ate up his portfolio, and the courts then had her signed over to us).

                                She is AMAZING. She's come along very quickly, and will go prelim next spring if she doesn't sell. She's been in the ribbons at her last two Training events. The only thing that gives away that she isn't full TB are her size (15.1), her color (that dark liver color that seems fairly particular to QH's) and she's got just a touch more "back" (in the Sir Mixalot sense) than the average TB.

                                Great attitude, huge jump, and huge stride. The flat work has been challenging thanks to her having a stop off in a barrel barn between the track and us that got her pretty worried about the bridle, so it's been hard for her to trust being steady on the contact. Mr. PF loves her and would love to keep her for himself. Just as soon as that money tree sprouts, I'll let that happen.

                                You can see a video of her here.

                                I'd love to have another one, just a bit bigger, LOL, but she's great.
                                I saw her on your website a few weeks ago and immediately wished ya'll were EAST again...
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                                • #17
                                  I had no idea a racing quarter horses were not 100% quarter horse. Thanks for enlightening me.

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                                  • #18
                                    My old barn used to get some OTTQH every once in a while. To me, they were more fried and not as easy to restart as OTTBs, or maybe it was just the ones we picked up. Most people can get on their OTTBs and walk around in a reasonable fashion right off of the track. The OTTQHs we had were basically all wicked spooky at first, hot as hell, and just would not settle for quite a while. In the beginning (first 6 months or so) you could be walking around all nice and easy and one thing would change they just could not process it and would freak out. They were fantastic jumpers though.

                                    We even had one that came from a H/J barn. When we asked why they were selling him, they said it was because he was too spooky over jumps 2'6" in indoor arenas so wouldnt' work out for they needed. It sounded like a reasonable explanation and we were eventers in Texas, so not many, if any, shows indoors. This guy was 9 or 10 and had been off the track for a while, but still was a bit quirky. You could be sitting on him, him looking like he was asleep, and before you could process what happened he would disappear so fast that you would land on your feet and he would be back at the barn before you realized he wasn't there anymore. He was a cross country machine though, if you could keep from having speed penalities.
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                                    • #19
                                      There are a couple in Area III. Linda Dreher has one, "Remington", who frequently wins at the preliminary level on his dressage scores! He's a machine! Another friend of hers also has one, but has competed primarily in dressage, though he's looking for a new home so that he can be evented more. A friend of mine in college had one also who ran through Advanced and was a superstar minus her terrible feet that were hard to maintain! They are definitely out and about, though often not recognizeable because of all of the TB blood.

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                                      • #20
                                        Originally posted by Chall View Post
                                        I had no idea a racing quarter horses were not 100% quarter horse. Thanks for enlightening me.
                                        It has led to some disension and some splinter groups (Foundation QH etc.). But because the QH traditionally originated as a cross between TB and native stock, they have always allowed infusion of TB blood-but they have to earn their white papers either on the track or in the performance arena by earning a certain number of points by a certain age.

                                        It can get confusing but it is interesting to look back and see how many of their most prolific sires found in many, many pedigrees (like Three Bars) carried Jockey Club papers and sired racing TBs.

                                        If you know this and do a little research, you can pull a pretty good horse with a pedigree that says he can jump off the track.
                                        When opportunity knocks it's wearing overalls and looks like work.

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