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  • Formula One Stallion

    Hey All -

    I am looking for your breeding experiences with Formula One.

    I have heard the temperament of the foals is amazing. Does anyone have any different thoughts?

    What did he improve on your mare? (if anything?)

    Was there anything you hoped he improve and he didn't?

    What has the movement been like in the foals?

    Has anyone backed their babies yet?


    Thanks!

  • #2
    The weanling next to Shiv is a F1 offspring. Love her!!!! The mare did not need improvement (I level eventer). Georgia (the foal) got the best of both (wonderful long legs, close coupled and athletic, very personable) and I told her owner to not be surprised if Georgia turned up missing one day only to be found in my pasture at home.

    Reed

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    • #3
      I think he's yummy, but don't have a mare right now that has earned her place in the gene pool, so no foals in my future. (except the two broodmares I am foaling out for other people, I get to play with babies but don't have to keep them!)
      Click here before you buy.

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      • #4
        FWIW we don't have a foal yet but we have a Formula One foal on the way in May 2010. We selected this stallion over others because of his reputation for passing on a very workable temperament and that was the weakest side of our mare.

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        • #5
          I have an 18 month old Formula One baby.
          Pictures are on my website, as well as photos of the dam.
          He is a gem to work with, his improvement to the dam was suspension in the trot, Tessa's canter was to die for, but her trot lacked suspension, which Louie shows as a benefit of Formula One's input.
          What's more, the Emerson's are amazing to work with and were tremendously supportive to me as a first time breeder.

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          • #6
            I have heard they can be growthy and to not overdo the rich feed, but I would do that with any baby, particularly one I expected to be big. Which I've heard his babies are.

            I have my 15.3h TB mare who went Intermediate in foal to F1 for '10 and am very excited. A little more size and a bit bouncier trot (she's gotten in the 20s in dressage but the trot could be better) and I'll be a happy camper.

            Jennifer
            Third Charm Event Team

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            • #7
              We have a two, coming three-year-old filly by him, out of a very well-bred Irish TB mare (grandaughter of Sadler's Wells).

              She is an absolute show stopper. Every person who comes to the farm says "Who is THAT?"

              Pics of her from this year can be found here. (Scroll down to Phoenix Amani). The jump shot is her first time over a fence, and sh jumped it like she'd done it a thousand times.

              She will be a bigger, more substantial filly that her dam, but I don't expect her to be massive. Her movement has a bit more ping than her dam's, though no one ever complained about her movement. She's a bit braver and levelheaded than Mom, but her Mom was one of the sweetest, kindest mares I've ever known.

              We didn't back her this year, but we did teach her to longe, and she got ponied all over the farm, and put through the chute. She was easy, and had an excellent work ethic.

              Mr. PF is giddy over this filly!
              Phoenix Farm ~ Breeding-Training-Sales
              Eventing, Dressage, Young Horses
              www.phoenixsporthorses.com
              Check out my new blog: http://califcountrymom.blogspot.com

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                #8
                Thanks Guys!

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                • #9
                  Have you guys sent pictures of your babies in to Denny and May? I know they're really good about keeping track and keeping up the marketing (seriously, I think they've done a great job of keeping up with his foals, and those of the other stallions), but I noticed Annie was the only one who really had a photo of her baby when it got older. It really helps a breeder out to keep them updated, especially when the foals grow up to be really nice, win something, etc.


                  Just a PSA from someone who's spent the last two weeks begging for pictures.... haha

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                  • #10
                    I am expecting a Formula One foal out of a full sister to Courageous Comet in May. I can't wait to see this foal ! I will definitely announce his/her arrival here.
                    Maryanne Nicpon
                    Minglewood Sport Horses
                    Ballston Spa, NY

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Maryanne Nicpon View Post
                      I am expecting a Formula One foal out of a full sister to Courageous Comet in May. I can't wait to see this foal ! I will definitely announce his/her arrival here.
                      How exciting! Can't wait to see this one! Does the mare look like her brother?
                      "Everyone will start to cheer, when you put on your sailin shoes"-Lowell George

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Maryanne Nicpon View Post
                        I am expecting a Formula One foal out of a full sister to Courageous Comet in May. I can't wait to see this foal ! I will definitely announce his/her arrival here.
                        WOW, if this isn't the best genetic pairing on earth if one wants to custom make the ultimate "eventing superstar", I don't know what is!! (Can't WAIT to hear about the product of this combination! I'm sure the resulting foal will be fabulous...)

                        I am in LOVE with Courageous Comet, and if only Formula One were NOT a grey! He would be on my top ten list for my mare if he were any other color...
                        "Hope is a good thing, maybe the best of things, and no good thing ever dies."

                        "It's supposed to be hard...the hard is what makes it great!" (Jimmy Dugan, "A League of Their Own")

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                          #13
                          That's funny! I didn't pick him because he is grey, but my mare is grey and I an very excited to have a good shot at getting a grey!

                          Anyway, I think you guys (and other research I have done) sealed the deal for me. I will be breeding my mare this year for a 2011 baby!

                          My mare is a granddaughter of Caro on top and Babamist on bottom and her dam line goes back to Water Serpent... Hoping for a serious eventer... That will be grey!

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Dr. Doolittle View Post
                            I am in LOVE with Courageous Comet, and if only Formula One were NOT a grey! He would be on my top ten list for my mare if he were any other color...
                            I too am not at ALL a fan of greys (I can't imagine cleaning them!) but I will admit that he is working his way up my list. And my list is for my pinto mare by Art Deco so it's a double whammy - could end up grey AND pinto!

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Maryanne Nicpon View Post
                              I am expecting a Formula One foal out of a full sister to Courageous Comet in May. I can't wait to see this foal ! I will definitely announce his/her arrival here.
                              Oh my god. My jaw just dropped. Please keep us updated! In fact, I want a blog. haha
                              New Username: tres grey

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                              • #16
                                Originally posted by TSHEventing View Post
                                That's funny! I didn't pick him because he is grey, but my mare is grey and I an very excited to have a good shot at getting a grey!

                                Anyway, I think you guys (and other research I have done) sealed the deal for me. I will be breeding my mare this year for a 2011 baby!

                                My mare is a granddaughter of Caro on top and Babamist on bottom and her dam line goes back to Water Serpent... Hoping for a serious eventer... That will be grey!
                                TSHEventing, if you breed a grey to a grey, you are guaranteed to get a grey--simple genetic formula! (Same for chestnut to chestnut )

                                Sounds like your grey baby will have fabulous bloodlines; good luck with what will surely be a fabulous prospect (and enjoy cleaning him/her up for the HTs )
                                "Hope is a good thing, maybe the best of things, and no good thing ever dies."

                                "It's supposed to be hard...the hard is what makes it great!" (Jimmy Dugan, "A League of Their Own")

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                                • #17
                                  Originally posted by Dr. Doolittle View Post
                                  TSHEventing, if you breed a grey to a grey, you are guaranteed to get a grey--simple genetic formula! (Same for chestnut to chestnut )

                                  Sounds like your grey baby will have fabulous bloodlines; good luck with what will surely be a fabulous prospect (and enjoy cleaning him/her up for the HTs )
                                  Not if both parents are heterozygous for grey... if both are Gg, then it is possible to get a non grey

                                  Should be a fancy fancy baby!
                                  -Jessica

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                                  • #18
                                    Originally posted by Merle View Post
                                    I too am not at ALL a fan of greys (I can't imagine cleaning them!) but I will admit that he is working his way up my list. And my list is for my pinto mare by Art Deco so it's a double whammy - could end up grey AND pinto!
                                    My mare is also by Art Deco! (Though she is a chestnut, with some chrome. Rabicano roaning, but this is more evident in the winter...) I like chrome, but just don't want quite THAT much chrome in her foal! :
                                    "Hope is a good thing, maybe the best of things, and no good thing ever dies."

                                    "It's supposed to be hard...the hard is what makes it great!" (Jimmy Dugan, "A League of Their Own")

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                                    • #19
                                      Originally posted by AppJumpr08 View Post
                                      Not if both parents are heterozygous for grey... if both are Gg, then it is possible to get a non grey

                                      Should be a fancy fancy baby!
                                      It's possible to get a non grey from two grey parents? I always thought that being heterozygous (for a color gene) meant that breeding to that horse (for example, a bay or black, who was heterozygous for black points) was NOT guaranteed to result in a foal with black points, but gave you only a 50/50ish chance of getting a bay/black...Unless the sire was HOMOzygous for black points--in which case you could ONLY get a foal with black points, even if you bred him to a chestnut. Same for pintos--50/50 or less chance of getting a pinto when breeding a solid colored mare to one, *unless* it was homozygous for the pinto gene...) Isn't grey recessive, like chestnut? (Meaning breeding two together of that color would guarantee that the resulting foal was the same color?...) This is confusing. Perhaps I need to go and check this out in the breeding forum!
                                      "Hope is a good thing, maybe the best of things, and no good thing ever dies."

                                      "It's supposed to be hard...the hard is what makes it great!" (Jimmy Dugan, "A League of Their Own")

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                                      • #20
                                        There is a coming three year old Formula One filly at my barn. She has an awesome temperament, is a nice mover, and will be started this spring. I am very excited to see how she turns out!

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