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  • Hoist The Flag - Great story

    I am very green when it comes to thbd breeding/bloodlines but am trying to learn. Thanks to Vineyridge and others I am starting to understand a bit.

    I find myself gravitating toward horses on CANTER and the like with Hoist The Flag somewhere in their pedigree. Like every 8/10 that catch my eye will have him there somewhere. Was he that prolific? Or am I destined to have one and someone is trying to tell me so

    I found this cool article about him and thought I would share for those that might be interested:

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...-2002Jun6.html

    So what makes him desirable in an eventers breeding? What else do you like to see along with Hoist The Flag? Anyone actually see him run? Stories from those that have horses with Hoist The Flag in their bloodline?

    Thanks
    "look deep into his pedigree. Look for the name of a one-of-a-kind horse who lends to his kin a fierce tenacity, a will of iron, a look of eagles. Look & know that Slew is still very much with us."

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    The fastest horse I ever galloped was a son of Hoist the Flag. His name was Strike Your Colors. He was a tall, balanced colt with an amazing stride length. He could set down fractions in an effortless fashion. I would guess you are drawn to these horses for that same natural balance. Unfortunately we lost him due to a hind leg injury early in his career. It was a very, very sad day.

    Nancy
    www.canterusa.org

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    • #3
      What a great story! This was the first that I have read it. Amazing that that surgery worked, I thought it was impossible.

      Thanks so much for sharing!
      Katie Ruppel & Yellow Rose Eventing *Website* & *Facebook*
      Email for Questions/Clinics/Sponsorship

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      • #4
        my big guy has Hoist the Flag in 4th generation... liked it there when i bought him, mostly because it came threw his "grandson" Broad Brush... but i have to admit my guy's pedigree reads like a bit of a whos- who of TBs

        In my humblest opinion, sure lots of folks would disagree!!!!!

        http://www.pedigreequery.com/picassos+image
        owner and friend of members of the Limping And Majestic Equine Society.

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          #5
          Originally posted by midnightride View Post
          my big guy has Hoist the Flag in 4th generation... liked it there when i bought him, mostly because it came threw his "grandson" Broad Brush... but i have to admit my guy's pedigree reads like a bit of a whos- who of TBs

          In my humblest opinion, sure lots of folks would disagree!!!!!

          http://www.pedigreequery.com/picassos+image
          Can we see a picture of your boy? I have a Slew grandson too and love him to bits.
          "look deep into his pedigree. Look for the name of a one-of-a-kind horse who lends to his kin a fierce tenacity, a will of iron, a look of eagles. Look & know that Slew is still very much with us."

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          • #6
            sure, dont have any great ones yet- he still is recovering from track life
            on my website he has his own page-
            sorry i am to dumb to use the online photo sites!

            www.goldenrunfarm.net
            owner and friend of members of the Limping And Majestic Equine Society.

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            • #7
              Yeah, the Hoist the Flags are tough, but so are many of the great sires whose babies and their produce continue to show up and compete. I had the privilege of visiting Alleged in Kentucky years ago and what a presence he was! I have a broody that is out of an Alleged granddaughter (x Accused - 1/2 brother to Danzig and Alleged was a son of HTF). She is also by a grandson of Crimson Satan - another tough guy, with Nijinsky II/Princequillo among others thrown in and she is quite the diva. But she is also super intelligent and sensitive as well as an amazing athlete who is a real lady if treated like one. I've enjoyed her foals and one is out doing well in dressage and another needs to be out there, doesn't get enough time from me. Her filly by Oskar II is just breathtaking. She had 26 starts, 4 wins, a second and a third (including an allowance win) and retired sound with clean legs.
              PennyG

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              • #8
                Many thanks for posting this story!! My guy (http://www.pedigreequery.com/flagstone+blue)
                is a 3rd generation Hoist the Flag. I hope he is 1/2 as tough!! So far so good
                Susan
                http://community.webshots.com/user/ss3777
                www.longformatclub.com

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                • #9
                  my daughter's wonderful mare was a great grand-daughter of hoist the flag. sadly, we lost her to colic in april. this mare was the hardest working horse i have ever known. sensible, kind and athletic, i wish i could have cloned her.

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                  • #10
                    this is the best story!!! thanks for posting it! my new mare (i got her sunday) has hoist the flag in her lines and now i feel special

                    http://www.pedigreequery.com/tambos+jazz+dancer

                    she has been an absolute darling so far- such a diva personality and quite the work ethic. scraping together the cash for her just might be the best thing i've ever done!
                    Jazz- 4.9.01 OTTB, loved since 12.6.09
                    Skip- 3.3.91 APHA, i miss you buddy

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                    • #11
                      I also have a mare who is a granddaughter of Hoist The Flag through Alleged. She had 66 starts and retired sound. And is as sweet as they come. For eventing, Hoist the Flag is a grandson of Ribot and his dam was Wavy Navy, whose sire line was MOW, damsire line Tourbillon, and a rather wonderful French tail female line with Elf in there.

                      Grecian Banner was also the dam of Personal Ensign, the Hall of Fame racer and broodmare. She and Personal Flag were full siblings. Wonderful family.
                      "I'm a lumberjack, and I'm okay."
                      Thread killer Extraordinaire

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by skip916 View Post
                        this is the best story!!! thanks for posting it! my new mare (i got her sunday) has hoist the flag in her lines and now i feel special

                        http://www.pedigreequery.com/tambos+jazz+dancer

                        she has been an absolute darling so far- such a diva personality and quite the work ethic. scraping together the cash for her just might be the best thing i've ever done!
                        she looks pretty nice on paper!! way to go!!! you should feel special!!!!lots of nice stuff there!!!
                        owner and friend of members of the Limping And Majestic Equine Society.

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                        • #13
                          I have two: http://www.pedigreequery.com

                          http://www.pedigreequery.com

                          The both have similar pedigrees with Seattle Slew on the top and Hoist The Flag on the bottom (in the same place, which is neat ).

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                          • #14
                            My wonderful gelding, Sneaky, is by Violado who is out of a Tom Rolfe Mare. He is Ack Ack on top (Turn-To and Princequillo). He is a real character and is a hard worker once he gets started, but would also pack someone around. He is really beautiful, so that is all he is required to do -- is be beautiful -- right now.
                            PennyG

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                            • #15
                              My saddle horse has HTF as his damsire sire.
                              http://www.pedigreequery.com/utah+beach

                              love him
                              A man must love a thing very much if he not only practices it without any hope of fame or money, but even practices it without any hope of doing it well.--G. K. Chesterton

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                              • #16
                                Originally posted by lizathenag View Post
                                My saddle horse has HTF as his damsire sire.
                                http://www.pedigreequery.com/utah+beach

                                love him

                                Awww...A Skywalker grandson. I had a son of Skywalker....lovely lovely horse. Was a big winning turf horse. Lost him way too young. Would love another one like him. http://www.pedigreequery.com/touchaclass




                                Loved the story! My current project is by Our Emblem...so the story hit really close to home....Still getting to know him well. I think he is the first one that I've had with HTF.
                                Last edited by bornfreenowexpensive; Dec. 10, 2009, 04:38 PM.
                                ** Tact is the ability to tell someone to go to hell in such a way that they look forward to the trip. ~Winston Churchill? **

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                                • #17
                                  Originally posted by midnightride View Post
                                  my big guy has Hoist the Flag in 4th generation... liked it there when i bought him, mostly because it came threw his "grandson" Broad Brush... but i have to admit my guy's pedigree reads like a bit of a whos- who of TBs

                                  In my humblest opinion, sure lots of folks would disagree!!!!!

                                  http://www.pedigreequery.com/picassos+image
                                  Wow. it is a who's who. And he is so young.

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                                  • #18
                                    The success they had with Hoist the Flag was the reason there was hope for Barbaro. You win some, you lose others. Nothing ventured, nothing gained. If the horse is game to give survival a try, attempted treatment of an injury previously or presently considered terminal may have unexpected success, and techniques advance.
                                    www.cordovafarm.weebly.com

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                                    • #19
                                      Thanks!

                                      Thanks for posting! It makes it easier to understand why, it was hoped Barbaro could be saved
                                      breeder of Mercury!

                                      remember to enjoy the moment, and take a moment to enjoy and give God the glory for these wonderful horses in our lives.BECAUSE: LIFE is What Happens While Making Other Plans

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                                      • #20
                                        The owner, Mrs. Stephen C Clark Jr (d. 1979), was more noted for her (and her husband's) steeplechase horses and Hoist The Flag's trainer Sid Watters (d. 2008) went into the Thoroughbred Racing Hall of Fame on his successes with top steeplechasers. So I suspect that their colletive vision for 'chasing required influenced them picking him out initially

                                        Triple Crown winning jockey Jean Cruguet said in 2004 that Hoist The Flag was the greatest horse he ever rode.

                                        ESPN's brief video on HOTF during the time of Barbaro (see at right):

                                        http://www.ntra.com/video.aspx?id=18273

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