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warning about Toulouse monoflap girth

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  • warning about Toulouse monoflap girth

    I purchased a Toulouse monoflap girth form Smartpak the other day. It's hard to find brown ones so when I saw it in the latest catalog I ordered it.
    It came yesterday and I went to use it today. As soon as I tightened the girth one elastic strap came off completely. Looking at it, it looks like it was only glued into place not stitched. This could have been a very dangerous situation if I had been mounted.

    If you have one or are planning to buy one please check it carefully and tug on the straps so it doesn't happen to you. I am sending it back and will get a refund from Smartpak, but will never consider this brand again

    Anyone else seen problems with this brand?
    Last edited by Maybe; Dec. 2, 2009, 09:22 PM. Reason: spelling

  • #2
    Hmmm... maybe it was just a lemon? I have a toulouse anatomic girth (long one, for short billets) and it's held up great for going on 3 years now. Triple-ply elastic that is stiched on and not going anywhere.


    • #3
      wow that is VERY scary! Theres no way that could have been intentional in teh design.. I can only imagine the law suit and liability the co. would be opening itself up to just gluing the straps in place! ! I'm sure SP will take care of it w/ the company.. poor pr for them though.. shame.. most of there stuff is a great value and well made for the price.


      • #4
        wow! thanks - I also just ordered one, as you're right, finding a brown short girth is WAY harder than I would have expected given the huge jump in popularity of the brown monoflap jumping saddles. Will take a very close look at the straps - you could be a life saver!
        If your horse says no, you either asked the wrong question or you asked the question wrong.


        • #5
          for real!
          Professional Choice will make them as a special order- thats why they aren't advertised, b/c they aren't kept in stock. My sister got one from the Farm House (864-457-3557) last year. It's the synthetic neoprene -- like the kind that peels apart to clean it.. its brown and very low maintenance - elastic on both sides.
          If your not being a good example than you'll just have to be a horrible warning. =o)
          breeders of quality tb's and welsh ponies.


          • #6
            I haven't been impressed with the Toulouse strap goods. I have a pair of the leathers from them and they're awful - soggy, fraying, etc. I have a monoflap girth, Nunn Finer, that is similar in price to the Toulouse and it's held up very well - no complaints here! Plus, it's brown, and around $100.
            "Opportunity is missed by most people because it is dressed in overalls and looks like work." - Thomas Edison

            So, the Zen Buddhist says to the hotdog vendor, "Make me one with everything."


            • #7
              I have never been super impressed with the Toulouse leather goods. They look nice from far away but when you get up close they lack that good craftsmenship and really nice quality leather that they claim to have. The price reflects that.

              I bought a long girth off ebay for brand new. Never seen a Toulouse before but the pics looked really nice. Supposed to have super soft leather. Got it and was not impressed. It was nice for the price ($50) but I wouldnt buy another. Stitching wasnt that nice, and the leather wasnt stiff, but wasnt soft either. Its held up okay, but i would rather put out another $100 for a girth that fits and wears better.
              "Let the fence be the bit." - Phillip Dutton


              • #8
                Nothing but problems

                Friend has a Toulouse, was impressed with the look but oh wow her horse was not impressed with the fit. Nothing but problems. I guess it is much more easy to make a saddle look good than ride well.


                • #9
                  True enough

                  Yep, my Toulouse does not have the same problems it just fits like crap, I think I got conned into thinking it was a better saddle than it turned out to be.Trying to save a few bucks. .Shame on me for being deceived. Buyer be aware is all that I can say.


                  • #10
                    I had a pair of Toulouse nylon-core leathers. The leather was incredibly thin and stretchy, and while they'd stitched it down both sides of the stirrup leather, they left enough excess that it got caught on things and ripped through the stitching and off the leather completely, exposing the nylon core. That was probably three months after I bought them.

                    The nylon frayed where the holes were punched in the leather too. I think I paid about $80 for them.

                    I won't buy a Toulouse product again. There are way too many better products out there, even in the same price range (HDR, for instance).
                    Full-time bargain hunter.


                    • #11
                      A BIT TOO HARD

                      Hey give poor Toulouse a break. The saddles and strap are not meant for competition riders, they make a nice looking entry level saddle for beginners at a cheap price. Is that not enough? Do we really need to expect more at those prices ?


                      • #12
                        Do we really need to expect more at those prices ?
                        Well....I will preface this by saying that I have not had personal experience with Toulouse strap goods, but generally speaking, yes, we really do need to expect more at those prices.
                        A. $80 is not all THAT cheap for stirrup leathers--certainly not on the high end, but not bottom of the bucket either. So, absent any abuse/misuse, I'd expect them to last a bit longer than 3 months.
                        B. If the girth in question really only had glued on rather than stitched elastic, and was not tested for safety, that could possibly be construed as a design and/or manufacturing defect if someone were injured as a result of breakage...aka liability for the company. And whether or not the rider is competitive or recreational has almost zero impact on that if the girth falls apart the first time it is put on! A reasonable buyer would expect the girth to...umm...stay intact.
                        As far as the saddles not fitting well, sure, that is more of an individual problem on a per-horse basis, and not necessarily something I would fault the company for. But aspiring to mediocrity in the safety department for strap goods, IF that is what is going on...no bueno.


                        • #13
                          True enough on the safety issue. NO price is cheap enough if the equipment is unsafe...


                          • Original Poster

                            just an update.......

                            Evidently my girth was just a bad one that slipped through the cracks......... to me totally unacceptable for any girth regardless of price.

                            Smartpak has gone above and beyond to keep me a satisfied customer as I knew they would.


                            • #15
                              So you're telling me a saddle is designed to ONLY be safe enough for schooling and not safe enough for shows? Exactly how do they make the difference and how does the leather know?


                              • #16
                                Guess I'll be sticking with my Gary Mundy leathers then .. $65, custom made and they'll probably outlast my riding career.

                                I did get $5 back out of those leathers at a tack sale a few months ago. I suppose that's something.
                                Full-time bargain hunter.


                                • #17
                                  Um, guess I'm in the minority here. I use the Toulouse anatomical girth for endurance riding - it has actually held up better than the County Logic girth I have and has "endured" hard use (got it three years ago and still going strong). I actually have two of them because I liked the first one so much...of course maybe they have changed the quality of them since I first got them?


                                  • #18

                                    Did they issue a recall on the possible defective products ?


                                    • #19
                                      M. Toulouse Girths are Great Quality For the Price

                                      I represent M. Toulouse products and want everyone to know that we are very sorry the particular girth in question was defective. To date, we have sold over 20,000 girths and never had this issue. The girth has been returned to us and we are sending out a replacement promptly. As a result of this incident, we have checked all of our current stock for similar defects. We are dedicated to providing riders everywhere safe and quality products at great prices.


                                      • #20
                                        Still not sure if they have issued a re-call or not for the unsafe equipment they are selling ??