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Well it [I]was [/I]about Le Samurai's condition.....Not so much now.

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  • Well it [I]was [/I]about Le Samurai's condition.....Not so much now.

    Ok so I just called Rood and Riddle and here's what they're saying right now.

    He is comfortable and Dr. Morrison is still assesing him.

    No updates beyond that and no idea when/if an update will be issued.

    ~Emily
    Last edited by Xctrygirl; Apr. 30, 2007, 03:57 PM. Reason: Total change of tone within the thread
    "Courage is not the absence of fear but rather the judgment that something is more important than fear. The brave may not live forever but the cautious do not live at all." ~2001 The Princess Diaries

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    Does anyone know what happened? A friend called and said he came up very lame at the end of the course and they put up tarps so she feared the worst but didn't know since obviously they don't make announcements about it. Did he have a fall or a bad step? Anyone have any ideas? Jingles that he is ok...
    Destiny is not a matter of chance, it is a matter of choice; it is not a thing to be waited for, it is a thing to be achieved. - William Jennings Bryan

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    • #3
      He landed after the second to last and was galloping fine then suddenly was galloping 3 legged a good bit before the last fence.
      http://www.chronicleofmyhorse.com/profile/pinkngreen

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      • #4
        Thanks for the news Emily.
        Buschkn - he appeared to suddenly go very lame in front just before the turn to the last fence. He took several very off canter strides (and it looked like Amy was deciding whether or not to pull up). Nevertheless, they took the last fence and he jumped it ok and cantered a couple of better looking strides after. She pulled up immediately and in trot/walk it was clear he was very lame (left front, I think). Barely weight bearing if at all. Jingling like mad for Amy and her wonderful horse - he was a superstar all day - huge heart!!!

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          #5
          Ok a little more info from research:

          Dr. Scott Morrison was just inducted into the International Equine Veterinarians Hall of Fame. He was the podiatrist (sp?) who worked on Barbaro close to the end.

          Here's the staff page:

          http://www.roodandriddle.com/staff.php


          ~Emily
          "Courage is not the absence of fear but rather the judgment that something is more important than fear. The brave may not live forever but the cautious do not live at all." ~2001 The Princess Diaries

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          • #6
            On the link supplied on the heath ryan thread they are saying Le Samurai collapsed at the finish?

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Xctrygirl View Post
              Ok a little more info from research:

              Dr. Scott Morrison was just inducted into the International Equine Veterinarians Hall of Fame. He was the podiatrist (sp?) who worked on Barbaro close to the end.

              Here's the staff page:

              http://www.roodandriddle.com/staff.php


              ~Emily
              So maybe a coffin bone fracture or something? obviously I'm just guessing wildly - not trying to start a rumour here!

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                Originally posted by clivers View Post
                So maybe a coffin bone fracture or something? obviously I'm just guessing wildly - not trying to start a rumour here!
                That actually wouldn't be so bad... those heal. Ask me how I know...

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Jazzy Lady View Post
                  That actually wouldn't be so bad... those heal. Ask me how I know...
                  Ditto
                  Hoping so badly for good news!!!

                  Re: the collapse - no, he just broke down in front - 3 legged.

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                  • #10
                    DON'T POST RUMORS...

                    let's wait and have someone who really has reliable information post it here please - this is a great horse/ridr combo - need to wait - yes, its difficult, but can you only imagine the anguish Amy and the owner are going through right now?
                    ~ it no longer matters what level I do, as long as I am doing it..~ with many thanks, to Elizabeth Callahan

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Jazzy Lady View Post
                      That actually wouldn't be so bad... those heal. Ask me how I know...
                      Not only do they heal I know of at least one horse, Montana Native, that not only continued his upper level career but got back to Rolex after a coffin bone fracture.

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                      • #12
                        In every part of my heart and soul, I hope no one second guesses Amy and her decision. I saw, as did Clivers, Amys difficult moment. Anyone that was there watching the jumbotron saw it too.

                        I can only imagine that she is going to be second guessing herself forever, and as a rider, I can only imagine how that might feel. I heard a lot of the questioning and the blaming and just thought..."who is blaming and questioning...have they ever been there at the end of a ****? Been that tired, been that close to the end?"

                        Amy (and I again do not know her other then hearing her speak at the USPC meeting, and the USEA meeting) seems to be a wonderful horseman, who truly lets her horses be who they are. I watched her entire ride and was close to a few of the fences where she came by and she had a lovely, quiet, patient ride with him.

                        So, I've heard some of the news from another vet, it is not probably good news, but I shall allow them to tell the tale themselves. In the meantime, I hope that we as horsemen can feel her sorrow and pain at the end of a lovely ride.

                        NO RUMORS PLEASE! I am sure that as soon as someone gets the offical okay, that they will post. Thanks, CLivers for posting, I had just posted the same on the Heath thread! ;-)

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                        • #13
                          thanks for the positive thinking, subk! I've watched this horse a lot lately and just love him. Plus, "Sparky" is a family name here, so of course, we love him!
                          ~ it no longer matters what level I do, as long as I am doing it..~ with many thanks, to Elizabeth Callahan

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                            More....

                            Ok relayed from Charlie in the Press Tent at Rolex:

                            Dr. Kathy Kohn just made a brief statement and then took no questions. Since I am not there and Charlie just gave me what he heard in highlights, here goes..

                            She said he "Lost the ligaments in the left front. By the fetlock. (That would be suspensory according to my Illustrated Vet Enclyopedia) Supporting ligaments.(What she said) He has no broken bones."

                            Charlie also reports that she used the word "lost" at least twice.

                            No mention of being life threatening or to clarify the term "lost."

                            Again she left with no questions taken from the media to head over there right now.

                            ~Emily

                            JINGLING for both Amy and Le Samurai
                            "Courage is not the absence of fear but rather the judgment that something is more important than fear. The brave may not live forever but the cautious do not live at all." ~2001 The Princess Diaries

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                            • #15
                              Thanks for the update. Just saw an article about reattaching either tendons or ligaments - cutting edge stuff. Now where the HECK did I see it? Going off to look!

                              Here's hoping that technology is on our side and has a really good answer to this question!

                              Huge jingles to Samuria and Amy!

                              SCFarm
                              The above post is an opinion, just an opinion. If it were a real live fact it would include supporting links to websites full of people who already agreed with me.

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                              • #16
                                Posted on NBC WEBcast site right after it happened:

                                Ok, I've never evented at that level and know the riders have to be so intense but I was really, really surprised after his big bobble and almost running on 3 legs after, to see her push him on around the corner and over the jump. He was very obviously DEAD lame coming up to the corner and coming round into the last, it looked so much like a racetrack breakdown with him still running on an obviously injured leg. I really thought she'd pull up and surprised he stayed up after that huge jumping effort on an injured leg. What a huge hearted horse!! I pray it's not serious but it didn't look good.
                                Trying to understand why he wasn't pulled up when so obviously hurting but much easier for me to question from the ground watching rather than being in the saddle.

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                                • #17
                                  OOps

                                  Posted that previous post before I saw the post about the vet's announcement, sorry.

                                  Jingles for Le Samurai and Amy T....What a big hearted horse!

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                                    #18
                                    More from on site

                                    "Veterinarian Cathy Kohn said in a statement that his supporting ligaments have lost their function and that after the leg was splinted Le Samurai was transported to Hagyard's clinic across the road, where a cast was applied and the horse was made comfortable to rest and recover. "


                                    From a friend in the press center.



                                    ~Emily
                                    "Courage is not the absence of fear but rather the judgment that something is more important than fear. The brave may not live forever but the cautious do not live at all." ~2001 The Princess Diaries

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                                    • #19
                                      Emily, from my friend who is a vet at Haygard, its my understanding that he is at Haygard, and not at Rood and Riddle. Not sure...but where did you get your information that he is at Rood and Riddle?

                                      Sorry- posted at the same time! He is at Haygard, then....

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                                      • #20
                                        Gryffindor?

                                        For those of you who were near the finish line, did anyone notice Gryffindor pull up? On the Web cast, he looked quite off as she brought him to the walk -- he took 5-6 hinky steps, she swung off and the camera went away. I've been thinking he pulled up lame, but there's no mention of any problems in the articles about how she's in the lead. I'm hoping that's because he's fine afterall?
                                        I evented just for the Halibut.

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