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for all you who ride in monoflap XC saddles...

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  • for all you who ride in monoflap XC saddles...

    ...please tell brands and why you chose them. Am marching towards XC saddle, want something as lightweight as possible, but also want/need support...interested in what experienced folks use. Would love to hear feedback on the Stackhouse monoflap...thanks!
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  • #2
    Originally posted by RunForIt View Post
    Would love to hear feedback on the Stackhouse monoflap...thanks!
    That's what I have, and I absolutely love it! I don't have back blocks (didn't want them) so there isn't much there holding me in, which at first was a weird feeling but I'm getting used to it. Monoflaps will make you ride properly because you have to have your leg on, but the closeness to your horse is unparalleled.


    • #3
      I have a Vega monoflap.

      I was not in the market for monoflaps-- I had nothing against them, but wasn't specifically looking for one.

      The saddle fits my horse WONDERFULLY, and allows me to find a good balance. It is not restrictive or forceful in any way. I like the wool panels that can be re-stuffed; and the panel/tree design is complementary to a lot of TB backs. MANY of the fancy french saddles are foam-paneled and that was a deal-breaker for me.

      I was a little apprehensive of the durability of calfskin, but it is proving to be pretty tough with just a few normal wear marks. The soft leather looks delicate, but has been pleasantly resistant to everyday abuse. (with weekly cleaning and care, of course)

      I have come to love the close-contact feel; it reminds me a lot of the exercise saddle I use on the young TBs. I have no problem switching back to a regular saddle, but then I'm not picky and will ride in anything that fits the horse.
      “A clever person solves a problem. A wise person avoids it.”
      ? Albert Einstein



      • #4
        How many of you also foxhunt in a monoflap? How are they for hours and hours in the saddle?
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        • #5
          I have the Jeffries JMX and I love it!

          I just got it this spring, my mare has been quite tricky to fit, but it's perfect on her, fits me great (and is comfy!). For me, it has just the right amount of support.
          Cascadia- OTTB mare. 04/04-05/10
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          • #6
            Originally posted by Lone View Post
            I have the Jeffries JMX and I love it!

            I just got it this spring, my mare has been quite tricky to fit, but it's perfect on her, fits me great (and is comfy!). For me, it has just the right amount of support.
            This was the first jump saddle I've ever ridden in where it was truly easy to be in jumping position. In all the other saddles I've ridden in, it's taken just a bit of effort to find the correct balance point. I sat in this one, on a horse I'd never ridden and instantly felt comfortable. We cantered a few laps and I never wanted to get out of 2-point, it just felt right, and easy.

            My mare is still a green bean, so I've only jumped up to about 2'6" in it. My trainer got one first early this spring and several of her other students have converted to them also. They fit SO many different horses and riders.

            opps-, I just meant to edit my other post, not do a reply. sorry!
            Last edited by Lone; Nov. 27, 2009, 09:30 PM. Reason: stupidity
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            • #7
              I have the Thornhill Le Monde and absolutely love it! Fits my Tb perfectly and puts my leg right where it needs to be. Not to mention I can spend hours in it. It's super comfotable and gives me a great position when galloping and jumping. By far the best saddle ive ever had.


              • #8
                Well, I think I"ve told you about my Amerigo, but here it is for everyone else.

                I'm 5'5, long femur, and a heavier thigh. The saddles with blocks tend to push my leg away from the saddle, which causes me to grip with my knees. I found a fantastic deal on an Amerigo Pinerolo monoflap on Ebay and on a whim, bought it. It actually fits my Trak pretty well, and it fits me rather well. I love going xc in it - two point is a breeze, and it's great for drops and such. It's also absolutely gorgeous, and sticky enough to ride in without wearing full seats.

                Cons? I hate short girths. For someone who works pretty much by herself, I hate hanging halfway off my horse trying to adjust my girth. It is also slightly harder to sit DOWN into the saddle, say, on a trappy approach to a downhill jump. Not terribly so, but that famous Amerigo forward point of balance puts you into, well, a forward balance point.

                THis is not my first monoflap - my first was the Flyover, which was great, but a little too minimalistic for my very green WB mare. My second was a Forestier that was yummy, but was too wide for my Trak after selling the Paint it was meant for. I have a Harry Dabbs mono that's also wonderful, but two monos for my Trak are one too many (thankfully, I think that one might be sold), so if I didn't have the Amerigo, I'd definitely keep the Dabbs. That one has sticky calf that wears like iron. If anybody can find one, they're great value for the money.
                "Opportunity is missed by most people because it is dressed in overalls and looks like work." - Thomas Edison

                So, the Zen Buddhist says to the hotdog vendor, "Make me one with everything."


                • #9
                  I love my Stackhouse monoflap. It's my first experience in a monoflap, and I would never go back to a regular saddle. I love how close you are to your horse.


                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Jaegermonster View Post
                    How many of you also foxhunt in a monoflap? How are they for hours and hours in the saddle?
                    I have done about 2 hours in my saddle at one time and think that would be about my limit. It is a very comfy saddle regularly, but not something engineered to do that. My friend has the Devoucoux Chiberta and feels the same way. Another friend has the Chiberta and trail rides for long stretches in it (but uses a gel pad).

                    That said, I love my Godignon Jump In Connection. I got it at Rolex in 2008 and have been very happy with it:

                    When life gives you lemons. . .say &%^# you lemons! And throw those lemons back in life's face so that it will be afraid of you and won't try that crap again!


                    • #11
                      I fox hunted in a Jeffries Flyover for years and loved it. Although I could get away with it for all three tbs at the time, it only really fit one of them well so I got a wool flocked Flyover for my most difficult to fit mare. Again I loved it, but unfortunately it only fits her about two months of the year and doesn't fit anyone else: ( Now the horse that fit my original Flyover is retired and I have a full tree steeplechase saddle that's a good fit for my others. I miss my Flyovers, but haven't used them in so long I should probably sell them. Sigh, I don't want to.


                      • #12
                        OK, this is confusing- I wish that I had more light on why a monoflap is better and so far I can deduce that it's hard to adjust the girth when you are on your own, but you are forced to ride correctly, which in my case, would be a good thing! There is a lot of praise going on, but why exactly is it a better saddle to use on a horse in eventing?


                        • #13
                          Maybe they're popular because of the weight? They tend to weigh significantly less than a traditional saddle, and some people like that. Personally, I think it's a style choice - I love the look of the mono. They're also much more close contact, but not in a pancake PDN type of way - they're usually made with some sticky calfskin type of leather, which provides great grip.

                          I think that partially the trend towards monoflaps is a fashion thing - all the BN riders are using them, especially the Devoucouxs (who I blame for starting this whole trend), and then we have all followed suit.

                          d#mn girth, but I find that the monos help my leg stay in place better. I don't find that I have to be "forced to ride correctly" in a mono - in fact, I think that it's easier for me to ride correctly than it is in a traditional saddle. I don't do well with great big blocks - like I said, they push my leg away from the saddle and encourage me to pinch with my knee.
                          "Opportunity is missed by most people because it is dressed in overalls and looks like work." - Thomas Edison

                          So, the Zen Buddhist says to the hotdog vendor, "Make me one with everything."


                          • #14
                            The Stackhouse monoflap is heaven. My horse is very hard to fit, and she went really well in the stackhouse. Another less expensive alternative is the Legado monoflap saddle. This was designed by Stackhouse, but manufactured out of the country. It is gorgeous and comfortable to sit in, but I haven't ridden in it yet.


                            • #15
                              I have a Barnsby monoflap that I adore. It is not the Extreem, it was some sort of a prototype designed for or by Clayton Fredericks, that ended up not going into production. There were only 5 made and I picked up one for a steal at Rolex. Not so helpful as far as recommending a saddle since there are only a few out there (and 4 of the 5 were sold in Europe), but the workmanship and leather are wonderful. I don't know how the Extreem compares but mine puts me in a good position and I love the close contact feel.

                              From what I understand, the reason this saddle did not go into production was that Barnsby's production costs were too high, and it appears Fredericks took the design to Southern Stars (a company I had not heard of before). Their saddle looks VERY similar to mine but I know nothing of the workmanship.



                              • #16
                                I have two monoflap jump saddles. One is my Macel Derby saddle http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/m...acel_derby.jpg
                                which has the front and back blocks. I LOVE IT!! I honestly hate riding in anything other then this saddle when it comes to jumping. Because it is a monoflap there is no bulk between you and the horse so it is easier, at least to me, to put your leg on and have your horse feel it. I prefer this saddle over my other one as it helps my lower leg which I have issues with due to loss of feeling in some parts stay in the correct spot. I have done 3 hour rides in it and I find it to be comfortable, BUT I also find my very old hard seated jump saddle to be comfortable!

                                The other one is an Italian custom monoflap http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/m...psaddle002.jpg


                                Which I like but not as much as my Macel. A few of my students like this saddle quite a bit as it will not let you get into a 'chair seat' due to the large knee roll in the front. Just like the other one it allows your leg to stay closer to the horse with less bulk and is very ligh weight. Any one looking for a narrow tree I give you a deal on it


                                • #17
                                  Originally posted by RSEventer View Post
                                  OK, this is confusing- I wish that I had more light on why a monoflap is better and so far I can deduce that it's hard to adjust the girth when you are on your own, but you are forced to ride correctly, which in my case, would be a good thing! There is a lot of praise going on, but why exactly is it a better saddle to use on a horse in eventing?
                                  Maybe I have long arms or something, but I've never really had an issue with adjusting the girth on my chiberta or any dressage saddle. I just move my leg back and lean over.. I think I actually prefer that to having to put my leg in front of the flap.
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                                  • #18
                                    I have a Stackhouse Monoflap -LOVE it!


                                    • #19
                                      I have a Black Country Vinici that I LOVE. It is custom for me (and my horse). I actually love how the billets go over the flap, almost like an overgirth. It doesn't budge on the horse, and is a nice close contact feel (even more than the Vega monoflap that I used to have). I don't have a problem reaching down to tighten my girth.


                                      • #20
                                        I have an ancient Pariani (20 years) mono that I love love love. hard as a rock but you will never find a better balance. There's one on ebay for $200 right now if anyone wants one. Best saddle ever, I can do anything in it on anyhorse it will fit, dressage, XC, whatever.

                                        A good saddle will not force anything, it will simply make it easier to ride well. Think more about it being out of your way when you do something.
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