• Welcome to the Chronicle Forums.
    Please complete your profile. The forums and the rest of www.chronofhorse.com has single sign-in, so your log in information for one will automatically work for the other. Disclaimer: The opinions expressed here are the views of the individual and do not necessarily reflect the views and opinions of The Chronicle of the Horse.

Announcement

Collapse

Forum rules and no-advertising policy

As a participant on this forum, it is your responsibility to know and follow our rules. Please read this message in its entirety.

Board Rules

1. You’re responsible for what you say.
As outlined in Section 230 of the Communications Decency Act, The Chronicle of the Horse and its affiliates, as well Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd., the developers of vBulletin, are not legally responsible for statements made in the forums.

This is a public forum viewed by a wide spectrum of people, so please be mindful of what you say and who might be reading it—details of personal disputes are likely better handled privately. While posters are legally responsible for their statements, the moderators may in their discretion remove or edit posts that violate these rules. Users have the ability to modify or delete their own messages after posting, but administrators generally will not delete posts, threads or accounts upon request.

Outright inflammatory, vulgar, harassing, malicious or otherwise inappropriate statements and criminal charges unsubstantiated by a reputable news source or legal documentation will not be tolerated and will be dealt with at the discretion of the moderators.

2. Conversations in horse-related forums should be horse-related.
The forums are a wonderful source of information and support for members of the horse community. While it’s understandably tempting to share information or search for input on other topics upon which members might have a similar level of knowledge, members must maintain the focus on horses.

3. Keep conversations productive, on topic and civil.
Discussion and disagreement are inevitable and encouraged; personal insults, diatribes and sniping comments are unproductive and unacceptable. Whether a subject is light-hearted or serious, keep posts focused on the current topic and of general interest to other participants of that thread. Utilize the private message feature or personal email where appropriate to address side topics or personal issues not related to the topic at large.

4. No advertising in the discussion forums.
Posts in the discussion forums directly or indirectly advertising horses, jobs, items or services for sale or wanted will be removed at the discretion of the moderators. Use of the private messaging feature or email addresses obtained through users’ profiles for unsolicited advertising is not permitted.

Company representatives may participate in discussions and answer questions about their products or services, or suggest their products on recent threads if they fulfill the criteria of a query. False "testimonials" provided by company affiliates posing as general consumers are not appropriate, and self-promotion of sales, ad campaigns, etc. through the discussion forums is not allowed.

Paid advertising is available on our classifieds site and through the purchase of banner ads. The tightly monitored Giveaways forum permits free listings of genuinely free horses and items available or wanted (on a limited basis). Items offered for trade are not allowed.

Advertising Policy Specifics
When in doubt of whether something you want to post constitutes advertising, please contact a moderator privately in advance for further clarification. Refer to the following points for general guidelines:

Horses – Only general discussion about the buying, leasing, selling and pricing of horses is permitted. If the post contains, or links to, the type of specific information typically found in a sales or wanted ad, and it’s related to a horse for sale, regardless of who’s selling it, it doesn’t belong in the discussion forums.

Stallions – Board members may ask for suggestions on breeding stallion recommendations. Stallion owners may reply to such queries by suggesting their own stallions, only if their horse fits the specific criteria of the original poster. Excessive promotion of a stallion by its owner or related parties is not permitted and will be addressed at the discretion of the moderators.

Services – Members may use the forums to ask for general recommendations of trainers, barns, shippers, farriers, etc., and other members may answer those requests by suggesting themselves or their company, if their services fulfill the specific criteria of the original post. Members may not solicit other members for business if it is not in response to a direct, genuine query.

Products – While members may ask for general opinions and suggestions on equipment, trailers, trucks, etc., they may not list the specific attributes for which they are in the market, as such posts serve as wanted ads.

Event Announcements – Members may post one notification of an upcoming event that may be of interest to fellow members, if the original poster does not benefit financially from the event. Such threads may not be “bumped” excessively. Premium members may post their own notices in the Event Announcements forum.

Charities/Rescues – Announcements for charitable or fundraising events can only be made for 501(c)(3) tax-exempt organizations. Special exceptions may be made, at the moderators’ discretion and direction, for board-related events or fundraising activities in extraordinary circumstances.

Occasional posts regarding horses available for adoption through IRS-registered horse rescue or placement programs are permitted in the appropriate forums, but these threads may be limited at the discretion of the moderators. Individuals may not advertise or make announcements for horses in need of rescue, placement or adoption unless the horse is available through a recognized rescue or placement agency or government-run entity or the thread fits the criteria for and is located in the Giveaways forum.

5. Do not post copyrighted photographs unless you have purchased that photo and have permission to do so.

6. Respect other members.
As members are often passionate about their beliefs and intentions can easily be misinterpreted in this type of environment, try to explore or resolve the inevitable disagreements that arise in the course of threads calmly and rationally.

If you see a post that you feel violates the rules of the board, please click the “alert” button (exclamation point inside of a triangle) in the bottom left corner of the post, which will alert ONLY the moderators to the post in question. They will then take whatever action, or no action, as deemed appropriate for the situation at their discretion. Do not air grievances regarding other posters or the moderators in the discussion forums.

Please be advised that adding another user to your “Ignore” list via your User Control Panel can be a useful tactic, which blocks posts and private messages by members whose commentary you’d rather avoid reading.

7. We have the right to reproduce statements made in the forums.
The Chronicle of the Horse may copy, quote, link to or otherwise reproduce posts, or portions of posts, in print or online for advertising or editorial purposes, if attributed to their original authors, and by posting in this forum, you hereby grant to The Chronicle of the Horse a perpetual, non-exclusive license under copyright and other rights, to do so.

8. We reserve the right to enforce and amend the rules.
The moderators may delete, edit, move or close any post or thread at any time, or refrain from doing any of the foregoing, in their discretion, and may suspend or revoke a user’s membership privileges at any time to maintain adherence to the rules and the general spirit of the forum. These rules may be amended at any time to address the current needs of the board.

Please see our full Terms of Service and Privacy Policy for more information.

Thanks for being a part of the COTH forums!

(Revised 1/26/16)
See more
See less

Hind Boots in XC

Collapse
X
  • Filter
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts

  • Hind Boots in XC

    Are hind boots for XC really necessary for the LL's (BN and N)?

  • #2
    Here's my opinion FWIW and I'm no expert. I put front and hind boots on my horse even if I go out for a quiet hack. If I tally up all the money I spend on lessons, trailering, and competitions, not to mention when I go xc schooling on my own and all the other various things I spend money on; do I want to risk the odd ball squirrel spook, car back firing and my horse decides to step off the road into a ditch resulting in 12 stitches.

    Not me. I plan on hunting after my last event and so boots go on every time.
    RIP Kelly 1977-2007 "Wither thou goest, so shall I"

    "To tilt when you should withdraw is Knightly too."

    Comment


    • #3
      I only use boots if I have studs in.
      Janet

      chief feeder and mucker for Music, Spy, Belle and Tiara. Someone else is now feeding and mucking for Chief and Brain (both foxhunting now).

      Comment


      • #4
        I use them but if you have a capable horse, they probably aren't *needed*. But there's always that what if.... and all it takes is scrapping the front of the hind cannon over the top of the fence to lose a LOT of hair and skin.

        Comment


        • #5
          Using boots should not have to do with what level you are riding, but what kind of a jumper your horse is. If you're unsure, or if he's the kind of mover that might wack himself on a jump, for heaven's sake, protect him!
          I have learned the hard way to protect my horse's precious legs even if walking out the barn door (anything can and does happen.) I even had back boots on him once, to do a XC round, but sweat made them slip down, and I didn't re-adjust after warming up, and he got in close to a jump and banged his hind leg and cut it just above where the boot covered the cannon bone - if I had taken the time to reset the boots he'd have been fine. I'm a boot proponent, mostly because I have had the math pounded into me - $50 pair of boots CHEAPER than $400 vet bill for stitches and 4 weeks off....
          Proud & Permanent Student Of The Long Road
          Read me: EN (http://eventingnation.com/author/annemarch/) and HJU (http://horsejunkiesunited.com/author/holly-covey/)

          Comment


          • #6
            For any level going cross country I think that boots are a necessity, and bell boots are usally a good idea too. But anyways back to the issue at hand- cross country jumps are s-o-i-l-d so even if you horse just brushes up against it while going over your likely to have some hair missing. Not only do they protect while you are jumping, they help protect against a stumble that may happen while galloping cross country. Like retreadeventer said, in the long run it is much cheaper to buy the best pair of boots you can afford for your horse (front and back) than have a little miss hap while riding that will cost you financially and maybe your competition season.
            Eventingismylife
            http://www.jumpingthebigsky.wordpress.com

            Comment


            • #7
              NO they are not NEEDED for BN and N unless you have a horse who brushes or interferes behind. I guess they can protect from splinters or what not but for the most part I might throw on the jumping hind stadium boots but I really do not boot up the BN and N horses to a extreme. Bell boots are used on those that need them but that is rare unless we are using studs in and in california we do not have to use studs really and NOT for Bn and N.
              Everyone has their opinion but go with what you feel you need. Certainly you do not need expensive boots. :-)
              To be successful, you have to have your heart in your business, and your business in your heart

              Comment

              • Original Poster

                #8
                Great! Thanks for the info. I always put front boots and bell boots on when we go XC schooling, etc. But my guy lives in bell boots so that's a given. I've put the front ones on as if he is going to tap something, he does it with his front end. But was just wondering if hind boots were necessary as I've seen alot of the LL riders in my area only have front boots on.

                Eventing is new to us and we just started dabbling last year but have been sidelined this year because of my horse's colic surgery. My goal is BN and possibly N at some point much later down the road! I would say my horse is a pretty good jumper. He hasn't knocked any of the jumps on XC as of yet. But we are doing weenie stuff he can step over (Starter division... 2') LOL

                But I'll look into getting a set of hind boots. I checked out the other thread to get some ideas on good boots. Currently, I've been using the Woof boots but I don't really like them (too hard, IMO).

                Comment


                • #9
                  Here's another reason to use boots

                  A few years ago I was at an event going BN. I was putting studs in when a friend of mine asked me what I was doing. I said "putting in studs." She said "why, that's ridiculous you don't need them!" I said "because when my horse goes prelim, I want to know my way around a stud box and hone my skills at putting them in."

                  Doing something is the only way to get really good at it and find out what type of widget you like and what works for you and your horse.

                  You may not NEED boots, but wouldn't it be better to have them on when you need them, than to pay a vet bill?
                  RIP Kelly 1977-2007 "Wither thou goest, so shall I"

                  "To tilt when you should withdraw is Knightly too."

                  Comment


                  • #10
                    I always use boots all around, my mare is a tidy jumper, but she's still young and learning. It only takes a few moments to put them on, for me it's one of those things where I'd rather be 'safe than sorry'
                    Cascadia- OTTB mare. 04/04-05/10
                    If love could have saved you, you would have lived forever

                    Comment


                    • #11
                      Always front boots for xc. Only back boots if they are shod behind. Only bells if they are known to over-reach or if they are wearing studs.

                      Comment


                      • #12
                        Most of ours get boots all the way around whenever they go XC - I figure it's worth the extra two minutes it takes to put them on, and I'd like to protect against them banging themselves if I can, though knowing no boot can really prevent everything. Preliminary and up (and the occasional Training horse with a nervous rider) get Nunn Finers or NEWs or other boots with a tendon guard. The Novice horses and many of the training ones get Woof boots or the Nunn Finer galloping boots. Bell boots on an as-needed basis, though most anything that wears studs will get them. Make sure your boots fit well!

                        Comment


                        • #13
                          It depends on the horse.

                          But for SOME of them, I WANT them to get the "feedback" when they are sloppy and hit the fence.
                          Janet

                          chief feeder and mucker for Music, Spy, Belle and Tiara. Someone else is now feeding and mucking for Chief and Brain (both foxhunting now).

                          Comment

                          • Original Poster

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Janet View Post
                            It depends on the horse.

                            But for SOME of them, I WANT them to get the "feedback" when they are sloppy and hit the fence.
                            That's how I feel. I also come from Hunterland (and not Eq) where boots are not allowed. But the jumps also come down. My horse can get lazy from time to time and doesn't care all the time if he knocks a fence especially when the poles are PVC. They don't always come down, but the "tick" is clearly heard. Hence why I don't normally school in boots. I want him to feel it and not do it again. But it always seems if he knocks a rail, it's with his front end only.

                            But I do put boots on him in the front for XC schooling/shows since those aren't as forgiving and I don't want him to hurt himself. But I have yet to put boots on in the back. So far, no issue. But it just got me thinking that once we start jumping some real XC jumps with some height and different structure, that hind boots might be needed. But at our current level of Starter... most of the XC jumps are small logs and coops. LOL

                            I don't want him to rely on boots too much and then start thinking, "Hey, that didn't hurt so I'll just keep smacking them". But I also don't want to put safety to the way side either.

                            I have the Woof boots (single lock) but I personally don't like them very much. Any suggestions on a better more slimfitting/molded boot that won't cost me a fortune?

                            Comment


                            • #15
                              My LL event/hunting horse only hits a fence if I do something stupid, he deserves boots !! But I hate bell boots jumping, I know they are necessary sometimes but I've seen a few horses trip on even well fitted boots...
                              Kate

                              Comment

                              Working...
                              X