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Here we go again - Express Eventing

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  • Here we go again - Express Eventing

    Horse and Hound reports that Stuart Buntine is planning to organize another Express Eventing competition next year. What kind of fatal fiasco will we get this time?
    But all the finest horsemen out—the men to Beat the Band—
    You’ll find amongst the crowd that ride their races in the Stand

  • #2
    Having watched the first one on dvd, I can't even imagine why in the world anyone would ever attempt that again. It was ridiculous for both horse and rider.
    When life gives you lemons. . .say &%^# you lemons! And throw those lemons back in life's face so that it will be afraid of you and won't try that crap again!


    • #3
      Originally posted by LessonLearned View Post
      Having watched the first one on dvd, I can't even imagine why in the world anyone would ever attempt that again. It was ridiculous for both horse and rider.
      I'm sure Oliver Townend will ride if the prize money is big enough!
      Sorry, couldn't resist.


      • #4
        What is it?
        ~*It's not about the ribbons, but about the ride behind it"
        R.I.P. Teddy O'Connor


        • #5
          is this being organized for 2009 or 10?


          • #6
            I'm with RR...what is it?


            • #7
              It's kind of the b******d offspring of cross country and show jumping. Imagine Rolex-type fences in a soccer coliseum jumped after a few stadium jumps. Set the optimum time at XC speed (500+ m.p.m) and see who survives. Call Again Cavalier didn't. Senseless BS, in many not-so-humble opinions.
              Leap, and the net will appear


              • #8
                Great. I didn't think they would ever do that again. Call Again Cavalier was a really nice horse and it made me sick to find out about it.

                http://www.horseandhound.co.uk/news/397/273032.html Here's a story about the last competition.

                A short excerpt:

                Just six of the 19 starters completed. William Fox-Pitt and Ballincoola finished third a couple of seconds behind Lucy and pocketed £20,000, while Clayton Fredericks was fourth on Ben Along Time. Fifth was Italian rider Vittoria Panizzon (Rock Model) and sixth was Caroline Powell (Lenamore).
                Five out of the first six riders were eliminated, and it wasn't until Lucy Wiegersma, Clayton Fredericks and Oliver Townend all completed that the crowd began to rally round the event. Huge cheers greeted Oliver's round, but the atmosphere was irretrievably dampened by the loss of Call Again Cavalier.
                Last edited by arnika; Nov. 7, 2009, 07:03 PM. Reason: To add info about the competition.
                "We don't ride the clock. We ride the horse." Reiner Klimke.


                • #9
                  Here's the clip with Mary King and Call Again Cavaliers fall at Express Eventing. The fall happens at the very end of the clip so if you don't want to see it, avoid going past 4:30 on the clip.


                  • #10
                    To me, it's more like a ramped up hunter derby. Personally, I don't necessarily see anything wrong with the idea itself - though I'm not sure the appeal either. Why not just do a hunter derby or a jumping show? Why make up this new animal?

                    What's the point of solid jumps in an arena?


                    • #11
                      Thanks for the link. I read the story in the COTH last year, but to actually watch it (I did not watch thru to the fall.) How stupid. Can't believe legit riders did this to their horses. Talk about jerk and run and jerk and run. The little costume change thing was the topper. So sad that such a lovely horse (what a fantastic jumper) had to lose his life doing something so ill conceived.


                      • #12
                        This is sad, because i love love LOVE cross country and being able to gallop through open fields and woods...

                        I just watched the clip where Call Again Cavalier falls and to me it looks some what like the riders fault... She is sitting on his back and waaayyyy behind the motion over the fence causing him to drop his hind end and fall. But thats just what i saw...
                        Why walk when you can ride?


                        • #13
                          Why don`t we just get a bunch of little plastc Breyer event horses and run a competition in a sandbox?

                          It would be about as meaningful, but cheaper and safer for the horses.


                          • #14
                            i agree with denny


                            • #15
                              This is really a disgrace to eventing. If they do it again in 2010 i will be really dissapointed. Was one great horse's death not enough? It's just VERY dangerious show jumping. Not even comparable to eventing.


                              • #16
                                Originally posted by denny View Post
                                Why don`t we just get a bunch of little plastc Breyer event horses and run a competition in a sandbox?

                                It would be about as meaningful, but cheaper and safer for the horses.
                                This. Amen Denny.


                                • #17
                                  It will be "in a different venue and different format", hence I am not going to knock it until I have heard what the changes will be.
                                  What happened to Cavvy was awful, but hard lessons will have (hopefully) been learnt.


                                  • #18
                                    Originally posted by GleeRider View Post
                                    This is really a disgrace to eventing. If they do it again in 2010 i will be really dissapointed. Was one great horse's death not enough? It's just VERY dangerious show jumping. Not even comparable to eventing.
                                    It will be different than last time, and more than one great horse has died at our top 4* events We don't even know what format it will be yet!


                                    • #19
                                      I'll put my Theodore O'Connor Breyer pony against any of the "big" Breyer horses in Denny's format.
                                      "I'm a lumberjack, and I'm okay."
                                      Thread killer Extraordinaire


                                      • #20
                                        Oh it will be different than last time.

                                        That's a wonderful excuse to do it again...what crap this was the first time. Horrors. Denny is right, as usual. Money the only reason to compete? And at any cost? Is there no end to what people will do with horses for money? Yuck. I'm with His Greyness. Thumbs emphatically down. Please take the money you are raising, whoever you are, and provide it to a needy event or series for prize money. Go much further in promoting the sport sensibly.
                                        Proud & Permanent Student Of The Long Road
                                        Read me: EN (http://eventingnation.com/author/annemarch/) and HJU (http://horsejunkiesunited.com/author/holly-covey/)