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Compare these OTTBs for best eventing potential!

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  • Compare these OTTBs for best eventing potential!

    I am interested in which horse you prefer out of these four solely based on conformation for eventing prospects. I know that there is only so much you can see from conformation but i'm interested in what people look for before inquiring about a horse. Let me know which one and why. Btw, they are all 4-5 and 16.2. Thanks everyone!

    #1 http://i36.tinypic.com/34g63vd.jpg

    #2 http://i36.tinypic.com/2j154r4.jpg

    #3 http://i34.tinypic.com/28b66pi.jpg

    #4 http://i33.tinypic.com/2sb4src.jpg
    Last edited by xcPayge; Oct. 30, 2009, 10:30 AM.

  • #2
    (are you taking these off of other sites? thats a no-no, you should be linking, if not, sorry!)

    That said, i like #1 best, but conformation of course only gets you so far.

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    • #3
      For a resale project, I wouldn't buy anything with a plain bay wrapper or a homely head. That disqualifies 2 and 4.

      Although chrome is useful for resale, I can only assume that when you say "take up the levels" that you mean to take a horse up to perhaps Novice/Training/Prelim and then sell to an adult amateur or teenager home. And for that, personality and attitude matter more than anything. For that market, quiet, easy, and willing trumps "cute" or "well conformed" any day of the week. At least it does if you're trying to produce a profit (which in this economy is kind of laughable, no offense but it's true).
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      • #4
        Originally posted by FairWeather View Post
        (are you taking these off of other sites? thats a no-no, you should be linking, if not, sorry!)

        That said, i like #1 best, but conformation of course only gets you so far.
        Since when was posting pictures on an informal forum thread a no no..? Not to be rude, but im curious?

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        • #5
          I actually like #4 the best (and think his head is lovely, hehe). I like his back end more than the others (loin looks smooth and well connected, hip and SI line up, low stifles).

          That said if you put some different muscling on the first horse, he'd look an awful lot like many of the top eventers look - if I were to look at my pictures from the rolex jog, I'd see tons of similarities.

          But I'm hardly an eventing expert, just have certain things I like in a pony.
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            #6
            Originally posted by jn4jenny View Post
            For a resale project, I wouldn't buy anything with a plain bay wrapper or a homely head. That disqualifies 2 and 4.

            Although chrome is useful for resale, I can only assume that when you say "take up the levels" that you mean to take a horse up to perhaps Novice/Training/Prelim and then sell to an adult amateur or teenager home. And for that, personality and attitude matter more than anything. For that market, quiet, easy, and willing trumps "cute" or "well conformed" any day of the week. At least it does if you're trying to produce a profit (which in this economy is kind of laughable, no offense but it's true).
            I was just looking for advice on soley conformation. I'm not talking about buying a horse and selling it in the next 2 months. Mostly just experience for me. I was not born yesterday, i do understand the economy is awful to sell a horse right now. I'm just playing around with the idea of a prospect. I'm sorry if that has offended you in anyway.

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              Originally posted by caffeinated View Post
              I actually like #4 the best (and think his head is lovely, hehe). I like his back end more than the others (loin looks smooth and well connected, hip and SI line up, low stifles).

              That said if you put some different muscling on the first horse, he'd look an awful lot like many of the top eventers look - if I were to look at my pictures from the rolex jog, I'd see tons of similarities.

              But I'm hardly an eventing expert, just have certain things I like in a pony.

              Thank you for your kind response Caffeinated. I definitely have to agree with you. I too am no expert on eventing! That is exactly why i started this thread I think #1 is my favorite. He reminds me of Will Coleman's ride Twizzle*. And as far as #4 goes. I agree that his head is quiet lovely. I wouldnt call him homely at all. But hey, everyone has a right to their own opinion right ;]

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              • #8
                For me, it's a toss-up between #3 and #4. Since we can't see the front legs of #4, I'd want to be sure that the legs are good and straight underneath and tendons look good. Horses #1 and #2 are lower-set in the neck department. Front legs not as good, particularly #2 who is a bit too sloping in the pastern for my liking, and slightly back at the knee. #1 might be a bit tied-in behind the knee, hard to tell from the photo. There is definitely something I like about the first horse, though. He has a certain presence.

                #4 probably has the best neck placement, with the best development at the tie-in to the wither. Looks to have a bit more bone, too. There is a bit of overdevelopment in the underneck, but not bad, really. Hard to see the neck on #3, but the base looks to come out of the shoulder pretty high. Both #3 and #4 are very well-balanced overall. I'd take either or both, but I guess for you it would come down to seeing them move. Another thing to consider is the strength of the loin in #4. Good in terms of durability, but likely bad in terms of tending towards tightness and stiffness.

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                • #9
                  I agree that #1 will probably be very athletic and look quite nice with some muscling. I like the body shape of #3 but something in the front end looks odd, maybe just the way he's standing. With that said though, I would pick #4 without a doubt as my favorite. I am not a big chesnut fan, but I think that horse is lovely and he has the shoulder and hip that I tend to like.
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                  • #10
                    I like #3 and #4 best too. #1 has something weird going on with his right front... and does he have a hoof? ha ha #2 has too much slope in the front pasterns for me. You would need to check out what is under the wraps on #4 to confirm no issues. I happen to find the looks of #3 most pleasing but would want to see how he moves... his shoulder looks somewhat upright in the picture.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by GleeRider View Post
                      Since when was posting pictures on an informal forum thread a no no..? Not to be rude, but im curious?
                      Hi Glee--
                      posting pictures is fine, but yanking the pics from rehoming groups and put up as your own is bad form. Sorry to detract from the thread--just a pet peeve
                      (and I have no idea if these were yanked)

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                      • #12
                        Looking ONLY at the photos: I'm not sure I'm in love with any of them. #1's neck is too low for my taste although the rest of him is quite nice. #2's front pasterns are too slopey for me. I like #3 except the fact that his tongue is out. If it's out while he's having his photo taken can he keep it in while he's working? Maybe that's the only time he's ever put it out, but he looks a little wired.

                        #4 is well put together all over with none of the particular body part flaws I see in the others, but he's wrapped and poulticed up to his eyeballs so I need to actually see his legs before I say I like him.

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                          #13
                          Originally posted by FairWeather View Post
                          Hi Glee--
                          posting pictures is fine, but yanking the pics from rehoming groups and put up as your own is bad form.
                          Fair Weather, I just saved pictures of TB's that i was interested in and liked their conformation and uploaded them here in picture links. I wasnt yanking pictures up and putting my name on them. Just for conformation purposes. I'm sorry if i upset you by doing so. I'm still not sure there is any harm in it. But again sorry if you disagree. :/

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                          • #14
                            I understand, but it's really frowned upon. you should *link* to the horses you like if it's a re-homing group.
                            If they are pictures that someone sent you that is different :0) (not upset, but it is a pet peeve)

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                              #15
                              I didn't really look at it from a standpoint of hinding the links from people. Just a convenient way to post the links because they dont each have their own individual page. I guess i could have posted the site and hold you how far to scroll down on the page...

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                              • #16
                                I'd have to say #4 is the best conformationally put together, has the most even body length proportionally. Most of the others aren't in correct proportion. 1&2 are both long in the back with a very short slopped hind end. #3 is nice but has a very high withers which presents saddling issues, the way he is standing almost looks a little over at the knee as well. #4, I agree with what others have said, it's hard to tell what his legs look like all bandaged up, although they do appear to be basically straight with good pastern angle. I wouldn't worry about the underneck development, that is most likely due to being on the track (assume these are TB's based on conformation and picture presentations). Some retraining would likely take care of that!

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                                • #17
                                  Idea:

                                  Is there anyway you could take all 4, ride them for 6 months and then put them for sale with all the same selling price... and report back to us as how they sold?

                                  OK, I was never one for reason, but it does sound like a good idea.

                                  I like #3. I just love the face

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                                  • #18
                                    Love OTTB's!

                                    They're all very cute and somewhat put together well. I was very drawn to #1. He has a very unique presence to him. I did notice, however, that he has quite a long back and runs downhill a touch. The other horses I liked were #3 and #4. #3 has a nice short back, and a great hip angle. #4 has to be my favorite. He has a nice big neck, straight long shoulder, and great hip angle. He looks like he would be gorgeous once you put some muscle and weight on him.

                                    Good luck with your project!!

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                                    • #19
                                      #4 is the winner
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                                      • #20
                                        #4. Nice smooth deep hindquarter, good angles, uphill overall build, nice eye, strong loin... if the legs match the rest of the horse, he's very nice.

                                        #1 would be second, I like him quite a bit. But not as smoothly put together in the loin esp and the RF looks a little over. Could be the way he's standing. Bit long in the back.

                                        #3 would be up there except his front legs look funkier than #1s. Shoulder a little straight.

                                        #2 has a weak-looking rear, long weak pasterns, rough/weak loin coupling, and looks a little pigeon-breasted if I'm thinking of the right term. Neck might improve with work but is not appealing. Shoulder looks straight and not a lot of depth in the rear or front compared tot he long middle.

                                        Jennifer
                                        Third Charm Event Team

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