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Can anyone identify this bit?!

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  • Can anyone identify this bit?!

    And tell me where I can get it? It works wonders on my TB gelding for jumping but the woman who uses it on her horse doesn't know where she got it. http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k15/briii7/bitttt.jpg

  • #2
    it looks like a Boucher...but I have never seen one with a bottom ring as well. hmmmm...
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    • #3
      looks like a version of a pelham to me.


      • #4
        Looks like some sort of driving bit or modified Baucher.

        I found a decorative driving bit that would have similar action but is probably not suitable for competitive ridden work...

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        • #5
          If you don't use the bottom ring, wouldn't a regular boucher do the same thing? Have you tried a regular boucher?


          • #6
            If it didn't have the ring on the bottom, but was flat, I would call it a spoon bit or a 1/2 cheek - commonly used for driving.


            • #7
              It looks like using the bottom ring could result in an action similar to a western tom thumb... Nutcracker action... Not pretty...



              • #8
                Short "Shanked" Elevator.


                • #9
                  What revelations said.

                  Libertyville has them (www.saddleshop.com) - item 05-1490. I can't post a link because their website uses frames and I can never get my links to work. They have a French link version as well.

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                  • Original Poster

                    bottom ring

                    i do use the middle ring, but like to have the bottom ring because i havent tried him xc in it. would the bottom ring on it be similar to using a bottom ring on a 3 ring elevator?


                    • #11
                      In terms of leverage, yes. It does have a bit quicker response however, as there is no draw or gag action.


                      • #12
                        Originally posted by McVillesMom View Post
                        What revelations said.

                        Libertyville has them (www.saddleshop.com) - item 05-1490. I can't post a link because their website uses frames and I can never get my links to work. They have a French link version as well.
                        Too funny. I recognized the bit right away. Didn't know why as I have never used it or owned one. Ah! Used to work at Libertyville. Probably saw it every day for years in my teens. I don't shop there much, even tho I live only a few miles away, but they are still the best place for bits.


                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Revelations View Post
                          Short "Shanked" Elevator.
                          That's the correct answer!
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                          • #14
                            Don't know if the sister would sell it, but we've got one that we're not currently using.
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                            • #15
                              Full Cheek D ring gag snaffle


                              • #16
                                It's an elevator bit. They were all the rage in the 80s. I have one with longer cheeks and shanks.
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                                • #17
                                  A friend of mine has one. I think she got it years ago at a Richard Shrakke (sp?) natural horsemanship clinic. She loves it.


                                  • #18

                                    The action should be very similar to using the lowest ring on the Pessoa or "bubble bit."

                                    Actually NO.. It is is a lot more poll action and leverage than a bubble bit which uses more gag action. Note the bridle attaches on a shank that is well above the normal bit part and decent margin over the simple bubble bits and it is FIXED. Also note in the three ring it slides and is not fixed as in the elevator show above. I am sorry but they are not similar. the three rings are often advertised as elevators which they might do but they are more gag as the bit slides on the snaffle ring.. in the more "true elevators they are FIXED

                                    Not a fan as they encourage curling and people use the leverage to bump them up, the old fashion version were not for use of those with poor hands. The bit was suck a BIG thing in the 80's and the original version head leather covered metal shanks instead of the baby version ahead. Thankfully the bit is out of fashion for the most part these days!

                                    This is the old school version from the 80's (seen everywhere back then)

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