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  • Windfall II @ Rolex

    See that dressage score--33! WOW!
    ** Tact is the ability to tell someone to go to hell in such a way that they look forward to the trip. ~Winston Churchill? **

  • #2
    Yeah but we know he can do that. What we have yet to see is if he can keep it and make time....and then jump clean...at the 4 * level, not 3.

    ~Emily
    "Courage is not the absence of fear but rather the judgment that something is more important than fear. The brave may not live forever but the cautious do not live at all." ~2001 The Princess Diaries

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    • #3
      Originally posted by Xctrygirl
      Yeah but we know he can do that. What we have yet to see is if he can keep it and make time....and then jump clean...at the 4 * level, not 3.

      ~Emily
      Well, he jumped clean with no time (and ultimately won the event) around the modified format four star at Rolex in 2004. I'm not a huge Windfall fan, but his XC has come a long way. --Jess

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      • #4
        I am not saying anything against the skills that he and Darren possess as a team, but their luck at the 4* level is a bit touch and go.

        Last year at Rolex he was spun before D. Admittedly he is a short format horse in my book. And he did a good round in 2004 no doubt, I mean come on he won it.

        I am not trying to be negative. Just for me, Windfall and Darren have to make it through the finish line in stadium before they get the applause out of me. But that being said, they are a lovely duo to watch in dressage. And they absolutely have my respect as competitors.

        ~Emily
        "Courage is not the absence of fear but rather the judgment that something is more important than fear. The brave may not live forever but the cautious do not live at all." ~2001 The Princess Diaries

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          #5
          Well...I'm impressed. To get an 80% at that level from one of the judges and an over all score of 33...it's impressive to even be at that level and with a stallion which I think makes it even harder. I hope he has a good rest of the event....just like I hope they all have good events. But getting a dressage score like that is a great accomplishment on any horse let alone a fit ready to run event horse.
          ** Tact is the ability to tell someone to go to hell in such a way that they look forward to the trip. ~Winston Churchill? **

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          • #6
            clapping!

            Originally posted by Xctrygirl
            before they get the applause out of me.
            ~Emily
            I am happy to applaud their dressage score. just keeping a fit horse in the arena is worthy of applause in my book!
            A man must love a thing very much if he not only practices it without any hope of fame or money, but even practices it without any hope of doing it well.--G. K. Chesterton

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            • #7
              I am happy for them (albeit a bit biased too ) and I think they will do wonderfully on cross country. I wouldn't count them out and I think Windfall is more than capable of making the time. He's fit (won the fitness award the same year the modified was run) and he's on his game this year. I for one hope he wins it. He got next to no recognition for winning the modified (not even a watch) and it was still an amazing accomplishment and I think he deserves it.

              Go Darren and Windy!

              *zipping up flamesuit*

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              • #8
                okay, this is going to sound awful, but after that silly ad with the creepy picture of DC, I hope they don't win, if it would lead to more ads like that.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by hb
                  okay, this is going to sound awful, but after that silly ad with the creepy picture of DC, I hope they don't win, if it would lead to more ads like that.
                  I'm sorry, but that is a terrible reason to why someone shouldn't win. Everyone there deserves to win just for making it to that level.

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                  • #10
                    That is one arrogant little snit that doesn't "deserve" a thing (the rider, that is....).

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                    • #11
                      Got to watch Darren go today. He REALLY deserved that 33. Atleast someone can beat Kim in the dressage.

                      I watched every ride today and I think that some of the riders should have gotten a better score than they did (like Nathalie Pollard, Karen O'Connor and William Fox-Pitt). However, I am not a judge so I have no say.

                      I got to walk a little of the cross country course with Buck Davidson. It will definitely be a challenge (but of course...it's Rolex!).

                      I feel really bad for Bruce. Jam AND Little Tricky were FULL of themselves. I hope cross country moves positions around. Poor Phillip Dutton too...
                      If the cross country goes well for everyone (which it probably won't) and the stadium as well, he won't be winning it this year. He got a 57 on Connaught and a 61.3 on Amazing Odyssey. However, This is eventing so anything can happen!!

                      Praying for good weather tomorrow....

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Xctrygirl
                        I am not saying anything against the skills that he and Darren possess as a team, but their luck at the 4* level is a bit touch and go.
                        I think it's a bit of a stretch to claim their luck is any more touch and go than anyone else's at that level. Windfall has started three 4* events. He won one of them, completed a second (the Olympics, which is technically a four star though of course actually a softer course than the annual four stars), and did not complete the third. His record at the four star level is short but highly respectable.

                        I've said many times that he's not my type of horse, and I'm not a fan of the positions Darren takes regarding the development of the sport. But I think it's silly to single out Windfall in this way. That's all. --Jess

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                        • #13
                          Just like the judges- I hope to judge what I see in the ring and not what I think about them (Darren) as a person - and Darren and Windfall were stunning today. Sally O'C said that they were *both* a bit flamboyant, ( ) and that is what wins dressage. Her comments that that they are indeed in a show- and thats what dressage is about- its a show.

                          Anyway- it was wonderful. Simple as that. And I agree with JAgold- they can do it- they have before.

                          I think that some got really low marks, and I think it felt unfair to me (Natalies ride for one) but as another poster said- who am I to judge? I can only say it was a nice test to watch. JMHO

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                            #14
                            Originally posted by annikak
                            Just like the judges- I hope to judge what I see in the ring and not what I think about them (Darren) as a person - and Darren and Windfall were stunning today. Sally O'C said that they were *both* a bit flamboyant, ( ) and that is what wins dressage. Her comments that that they are indeed in a show- and thats what dressage is about- its a show.

                            Anyway- it was wonderful. Simple as that. And I agree with JAgold- they can do it- they have before.

                            I think that some got really low marks, and I think it felt unfair to me (Natalies ride for one) but as another poster said- who am I to judge? I can only say it was a nice test to watch. JMHO
                            That's really all I meant by starting this thread....to get a score like that it must have been a really nice test to watch (and will hopefully be on the video). But the great stuff to watch will be tomorrow! Some day I will get there to watch...
                            ** Tact is the ability to tell someone to go to hell in such a way that they look forward to the trip. ~Winston Churchill? **

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                            • #15
                              I watched Windfall today. It was the kind of ride that brings goosebumps to you. It was truly spectacular. I can't imagine how Darren and Tim Holekamp feel.

                              I sent Tim an email of congratulations and wished him the best of luck tomorrow. They will need it as all riders do. We all know this sport is a combination of skill, talent, and luck. We also all know Windfall can do it.

                              With a little luck they will prevail tomorrow. We know they have the skill and talent.

                              Interesting enough I received a prompt reply of thanks from Tim. Truly a class act. They have come a long way since Windfall was imported.

                              Sitting in the stands all day there was not a more popular horse/rider combination out there, especially after their spectacular performance. The crowd was educated enough to appreciate the quality of the ride.
                              -Painted Wings

                              Set youself apart from the crowd, ride a paint horse, you're sure to be spotted

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                              • #16
                                Originally posted by fergie
                                That is one arrogant little snit that doesn't "deserve" a thing (the rider, that is....).
                                Wow, what's that about?

                                I spoke with Darren after his lovely, goosebump-inducing test, and he was nothing but gracious and deferred all praise to his horse.
                                They have my applause, and my best wishes.
                                To be conscious that you are ignorant is a great step to knowledge.

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                                • #17
                                  I met Darren at the Fork and he seemed extremely gracious and pleasant.... *shrug*

                                  When I can do half as well, I'll feel free to snipe, I guess..... :-)

                                  Jennifer
                                  Third Charm Event Team

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                                  • #18
                                    Top if the field is tough

                                    I expected Darren to have a good ride, however not that good! IMPRESSIVE!

                                    I'm personally rooting for Stephen. I was way impressed to see him do so well on From, however thought he would have done better on Josh, esp after a great first test. A good friend of ours is grooming for him, so we'll have to get the dirt when we talk to her.

                                    I think it's wide open right now between the top riders b/c of the tight grouping of the scores. You've got some VERY talented XC jockeys and tomorrow should prove VERY entertaining esp since the top 5 are within 11 pts and top 17 within 20.

                                    I hate that we couldn't go watch....... next year...
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                                    • #19
                                      Anyone see

                                      Ralphs Dressage??

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                                      • #20
                                        Originally posted by Sannois
                                        Ralphs Dressage??

                                        Yes. The trot work wasn't bad, though Billy looked a bit tight.
                                        His half passes were not good, so scored lower.

                                        His canter work was also tight, and in one of the changes esp., they got into a bit of a fight about it.
                                        In the end, it was a 61-something, I think.

                                        He and Andrew had hoped to come in around the mid-40s, but it wasn't in the cards yesterday.

                                        To be conscious that you are ignorant is a great step to knowledge.

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