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  • Difficult Run, Less Than a Week away!!

    I have recieved my tentative times! I asked for an early dressage time because I was planning on going to the Gold Cup on saturday, well I bagged my Gold Cup plans but am stuck with an early dressage time. lol.

    Dressage is Saturday: 8:03am

    Cross Country is Sunday: 8:51am

    Stadium is Sunday: 10:11am

    Should be a quick day on Sunday. I am seriously worried about the Trakhner. I was unsuccessful in the last schooling I had. I am thinking I will give it one shot and call it a day if we don't get over it. I don't want to end my first training with me trying to beat him over a fence that I am not so hot about myself! lol.

    What does everyone elses times look like?
    Last edited by S4zeus; May. 2, 2006, 02:23 PM.

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    Hey S4Zeus...

    I just got the e-mail from Steve as to times--yay! (He's always SO good about getting the times up early! )

    You will have two *early* days! At least it frees up the rest of the day for you...(I will have to set my VCR to record Rolex on Sunday...)

    I'm riding dressage at 3:51 Saturday, cross country at 1:42 Sunday, and stadium at 3:15...(IMO--as a "no-morning person"--those are GREAT times! )

    Pied Piper rides on Saturday, and her latest time (I'm assuming it's stadium) is 6 something!

    I can certainly understand your misgivings about the Trakehner, after having problems with it in schooling--it's definitely a "troublesome" fence for many!
    OTOH, I was *extremely* impressed with both you and Zeus, who "kicked ass" over the rest of the Training course...he is an awesome horse, with tremendous scope--and you are clearly a natural rider; together, you are a lovely pair--and you should do well at Training this year.
    (One of my students was eliminated at the AECs last year at the Trakehner--her mare *still* has problems with them! IOW, you are not alone, so if I were you I would consider it "a problem to be worked on", as opposed to something that will haunt you all year...luckily, not all Training Level courses have Trakehners on them--and those that do tend to have "less daunting" ones than Frying Pan's! ) In any case, good luck at DRHT--I hope to see you, but then again, you will probably be done and gone by the time I'm arriving to warm up! (Let me know if you need help with Zeus, though, since I'm so close by...)
    "Hope is a good thing, maybe the best of things, and no good thing ever dies."

    "It's supposed to be hard...the hard is what makes it great!" (Jimmy Dugan, "A League of Their Own")

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    • #3
      Don't worry about the Trakehner :-)

      Other than the first year it was installed (when Buck Davidson got dumped there much to everyone's (except his) amusement), the Trakehner hasn't been a problem. It is almost 100% clean at each HT. Its kind of like the Novice Log Wagon that freaks the riders but the horses are OK as long as the rider kicks on. DRPC put some bigger 1/2 rounds in front of the Trakehner after the first year to be extra sure that horses couldn't prop and slide into it. Don't let it worry you - its all a head game and if you are cool about it, the horse will be too. Honestly there are almost no stops there unless the horse/rider combination doesn't trust each other. Also remember you can get a good head of speed and then balance the canter nicely to it thru the flat cow field, which probably most people don't do when schooling it. Its also late in the course and the horses are full of being "the man" or "the mare" at that point......and not thinking about stopping.

      Paddy's Bank (the rolling bank in the back field) also freaked everyone out for a while, but also no stops. Again, it was a head game.....isn't it always?

      Good luck!
      Last edited by oreo; Apr. 27, 2006, 12:07 AM.

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      • #4
        More thoughts on horses with Trakehner problems....

        Just as an afterthought - I don't think horses have problems with Trakehners - I think RIDERS have problems with them and the horses pick up on the rider's fear and react accordingly. Course designers are trying to test a bunch of stuff (including steering, which most riders don't test when schooling, but that's another discussion) and the determination of the rider. If you don't react differently to a Trakehner than a regular bank or chevron or whatever, unless you have a VERY nervous horse, he/ she shouldn't either.

        Those with VERY nervous horses should do either a lot of schooling or find the horse a new career IHMO. I have exactly one that I bought as a baby, isn't nervous around people but will I know freak at a XC course. He will make a perfect Hunter - breaks my heart.

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        • #5
          Yep I think I am destined for late times this season! I have NEVER had times this late. Stadium after 6! Goodness, had to ask the hubby if it was still light out then.

          Since this will be the first time Matt is braided I think the later times is somewhat helpful. Maybe be trying to braid for awhile.

          Dr.D- thanks for the offer to help! Gillian will be there to coach a few students but not sure how she feels about my late times. I will let you know. I am very impressed with the early date we got times. Very helpful.

          Oreo- I know that they schooled the trakener from the cow field when they were schooling. I am pretty sure that I have seen refusals at the trakener in years past. Need to go back and check scores or I am sure Janet would know. Just thankful I am not there yet! I have a thing for ditches and most definitely trakeners.

          s4zeus- We will need to set up a schooling at Wingreen with Gillian. I know that they have some ones to work on.

          Good luck to everyone! I am so excited, this is our rec debut and move up to BN. Same goes to B Street Tango too!
          Grab mane and kick on!

          http://www.ashleykriegeleventing.com/

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          • #6
            I will be there as well. It will be my horses 2nd training. As far as the trakehners go, I was worried about that as well since the only one we had ever schooled had a smaller ditch and the log wasnt as high so you could barely see the ditch. Then when we did Redland last weekend, I just made sure I looked above the rail and made sure I had a good pace and my horse never looked at. I do agree its more of a rider issue. S4: im sure you will be fine. im really looking forward to it especially since we had a very positive ride at Redland. I also love stabling "on show grounds" as opposed to going back & forth. My times are early Sat d: 8:45 sun, 9:05 & 10:25. Should be home by dinner time on Sunday.
            It will be my first Adult Rider get together as well.
            Good luck to everyone. Weather looks good (well up til fri anyway)
            http://www.chronicleofmyhorse.com/profile/Jen75

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            • #7
              This will be mine and my horses second event ever (we are doing BN) and, after a fairly successful time at Redlands, I am really looking forward to DR. We have a loooong Saturday, though, with Dressage at 10:30 and Stadium at 4:10. My friend that I am trailering has a Dressage time of 8:30 am - very long day.

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              • #8
                It appears I will be jump judging on Saturday. DON'T stop to say hi!
                Janet

                chief feeder and mucker for Music, Spy, Belle and Tiara. Someone else is now feeding and mucking for Chief and Brain (both foxhunting now).

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                • #9
                  I'm really happy with my times!
                  All Sunday---11:00, 12:50 and 2:11pm. Awesome!!

                  And I'm so looking forward to this event!!
                  Amwrider: May the fleas of a thousand camels infest their genitalia and may their arms be too short to scratch.

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                    #10
                    Dr. D, thanks for the kind words. I love Zeus. The more he does and the better he gets just makes me so happy as he was considered by more than one trainer to be "unbreakable".

                    I know that for us, the problem with the trakhner is me. I have jumped it cleanly once, but if I ride poorly to it then it gives him the opportunity to look and decide it doesn't look so good. I won't let it get to me, I will ride the rest of the course like I rode it in schooling, come to the Trakhner with good pace, do my damndest to keep my eyes up and my leg on. Like Gillian told me, ride the fence to get left. I am really good at slipping my reins for a reason! lol. So forward is all I will be thinking to that fence. Look forward to seeing a bunch of COTH'ers.

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                    • #11
                      If anyone needs a stall for Sunday, let me know... I have to get one for my guy, but we're only competing on Sat, so it'll be empty on Sunday. I wish I didn't have to pay for the whole weekend.
                      Road to the T3D
                      Translation
                      fri [fri:] fritt fria (adj): Free
                      skritt [skrit:] skritten (noun): Walk

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                      • #12
                        Everything on that course rides great! I love that event. Everyone there is SO nice and helpful. I took both of my horses for the first time and had a blast! Everything was top notch. Steve does a great job!

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                        • #13
                          Yup, we'll be there! The last week has been very sporadic with schooling/riding so I'm hoping we can kick it back in to gear and be just fine. Funny thing is, I'm mostly worried about Stadium! With my last horse, XC was the bugger. I know we can get around, just hoping it's clean...not too concerned about pretty at this point.
                          You can't fix stupid.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by S4zeus
                            Dr. D, thanks for the kind words. I love Zeus. The more he does and the better he gets just makes me so happy as he was considered by more than one trainer to be "unbreakable".

                            I know that for us, the problem with the trakhner is me. I have jumped it cleanly once, but if I ride poorly to it then it gives him the opportunity to look and decide it doesn't look so good. I won't let it get to me, I will ride the rest of the course like I rode it in schooling, come to the Trakhner with good pace, do my damndest to keep my eyes up and my leg on. Like Gillian told me, ride the fence to get left. I am really good at slipping my reins for a reason! lol. So forward is all I will be thinking to that fence. Look forward to seeing a bunch of COTH'ers.

                            Good luck and kick on - and don't forget to have a fun ride! I really do think that b/c its towards the end of the course and your horse can see the start and other horses, it will ride fine.

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                            • #15
                              [QUOTE=PiedPiper]

                              Oreo- I know that they schooled the trakener from the cow field when they were schooling. I am pretty sure that I have seen refusals at the trakener in years past. Need to go back and check scores or I am sure Janet would know. Just thankful I am not there yet! I have a thing for ditches and most definitely trakeners.
                              QUOTE]

                              There really haven't been many stops there - like my previous post, I think it is where it is on the course that helps......AEC had a trakener at Novice in 2004, and that did help to sort out the "men" from the "boys" or "girls". I assume its still there, but couldn't go last year.

                              But at the point of being boring, I do think the Trakenher will ride fine - just rest assured that the 1/2 round will stop any props and slides into the ditch.....and kick on and have fun

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                              • #16
                                Originally posted by B Street Tango
                                Funny thing is, I'm mostly worried about Stadium!
                                Yup, me too!
                                Though in my last lesson, we were working on staying calm and collected to the fence---trying to jump more round rather than gunning at the fence, jumping it flat and catching it with back feet.

                                One more jumping lesson Tuesday--we'll see what we can do.....
                                Amwrider: May the fleas of a thousand camels infest their genitalia and may their arms be too short to scratch.

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                                • #17
                                  That is, at least in part, because those of us whose horse WILL NOT JUMP THE FPP TRAKHENER (even though they jump every other Trakhener fine) simply DON'T enter DRPC.

                                  That is the one and only reason I will be jump judging instead of competing.
                                  Originally posted by oreo
                                  Originally posted by PiedPiper

                                  Oreo- I know that they schooled the trakener from the cow field when they were schooling. I am pretty sure that I have seen refusals at the trakener in years past. Need to go back and check scores or I am sure Janet would know. Just thankful I am not there yet! I have a thing for ditches and most definitely trakeners.
                                  There really haven't been many stops there - like my previous post, I think it is where it is on the course that helps......AEC had a trakener at Novice in 2004, and that did help to sort out the "men" from the "boys" or "girls". I assume its still there, but couldn't go last year.

                                  But at the point of being boring, I do think the Trakenher will ride fine - just rest assured that the 1/2 round will stop any props and slides into the ditch.....and kick on and have fun
                                  Last edited by Janet; Apr. 29, 2006, 11:05 AM.
                                  Janet

                                  chief feeder and mucker for Music, Spy, Belle and Tiara. Someone else is now feeding and mucking for Chief and Brain (both foxhunting now).

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                                  • #18
                                    Thank you Janet, my point exactly. It is a damn hard jump and not very inviting.
                                    Grab mane and kick on!

                                    http://www.ashleykriegeleventing.com/

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                                    • #19
                                      Originally posted by Janet
                                      That is, at least in part, because those of us whose horse WILL NOT JUMP THE FPP TRAKHENER (even though they jump every other Trakhener fine) simply DON'T enter DRPC.

                                      That is the one and only reason I will be jump judging instead of competing.
                                      Do you think there is anything else they can do to help make it more rider friendly? DRPC is very "user friendly" and I know they've made many changes over the years based on rider feedback. Although I think they have been trying to make the course a bit more "challenging" over recent years, without trying to make it too difficult for their traditional horse/rider base.

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                                      • #20
                                        Originally posted by oreo
                                        Do you think there is anything else they can do to help make it more rider friendly? DRPC is very "user friendly" and I know they've made many changes over the years based on rider feedback. Although I think they have been trying to make the course a bit more "challenging" over recent years, without trying to make it too difficult for their traditional horse/rider base.
                                        There is nothing wrong with the fence per se. The problem is with my horse who has a strong "opinion".

                                        What would make a difference to me would be to have an EVEN SMALLER version (Like BN height) to school over.
                                        Last edited by Janet; May. 1, 2006, 10:20 AM.
                                        Janet

                                        chief feeder and mucker for Music, Spy, Belle and Tiara. Someone else is now feeding and mucking for Chief and Brain (both foxhunting now).

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