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My horrible experiences with Texas horse trainer/instructor Ellen Doughty-Hume

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  • Originally posted by Xctrygirl View Post
    Read all 47 pages. I promise it's worth it to see who all knows.

    Em
    Okay, well I read it. And I am disgusted that this EDH person is representing The sport of eventing.
    I am even more disgusted that events and organizations are still turning a blind eye to her behavior.
    Thank you stormy and the other people who were brave enough to come forward. But she will continue to operate as long as she can find more people who do not know much to board with her, and event organizers allow her to continue to frequent their events. She can be stopped. But like someone said many many posts back, it is up to individuals to record and report everything that they see and hear. The squeaky wheel gets the grease.
    I am glad I am not doing horses anymore. But I will tell you this, if I was a spectator at an event and saw anything this woman has done, I would be all over it to report her. She gets the upper hand because people are afraid to make waves.
    She is not a God, she is a disgrace to the horse world. I sure hope she does not have a horse going to Kentucky next month.

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    • Originally posted by soloudinhere View Post

      Whoops. Better get out the crystal ball polish, yours is looking a bit cloudy it seems.
      Fair enough - the Russia non-story lasted forever, shouldn't have expected differently

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      • Originally posted by LilyandBaron View Post

        Fair enough - the Russia non-story lasted forever, shouldn't have expected differently
        This is a really useful thread; perhaps we can avoid steering it off a cliff?
        The plural of anecdote is not data

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        • Originally posted by SecondInCommand View Post

          This is a really useful thread; perhaps we can avoid steering it off a cliff?
          Yes!!!!!!

          Save the political stuff for the political thread. Do not get this thread locked.

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          • Originally posted by trubandloki View Post

            Yes!!!!!!

            Save the political stuff for the political thread. Do not get this thread locked.
            Yes PLEASE. This thread is very important.

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            • Originally posted by Sannois View Post

              I sure hope she does not have a horse going to Kentucky next month.
              I bet that Obie will be entered. I am not close to the situation, but based on past behavior, I don't think there is anything that would keep her away as long as her 4* horse is still qualified.

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              • Holy crap. Just read all 48 pages of this. I don't have words...well, I do, but not appropriate for print.

                Some posters mentioned that it would not be beneficial to take this to small claims since Stormy doesn't want money (and EDH has none to give). But couldn't she press charges on [edit]or any of the other items that she has tangible evidence for? It's heartbreaking to think that *nothing* can be done to touch this woman.
                Last edited by Moderator 1; Mar. 14, 2018, 03:16 PM.

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                • Since this thread has been resurrected, did anyone else notice that EDH’s name disappeared off the Area V list of ICP instructors? Maybe it’s just me, but I know it was there before.

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                  • Originally posted by Groom&amp;Taxi View Post

                    I bet that Obie will be entered. I am not close to the situation, but based on past behavior, I don't think there is anything that would keep her away as long as her 4* horse is still qualified.
                    Poor Obie!

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                    • Originally posted by pictureonemore View Post
                      Since this thread has been resurrected, did anyone else notice that EDH’s name disappeared off the Area V list of ICP instructors? Maybe it’s just me, but I know it was there before.
                      What is ICP?

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                      • Instructor Certification Program. The eventing world has actually done a reasonable job of attempting to certify instructors.
                        The plural of anecdote is not data.

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                        • She is not listed on the USEA site either. We are in a new year now - perhaps she didn't satisfy a continuing education requirement?

                          http://useventing.com/education/icp/...structors-area

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                          • Originally posted by Groom&amp;Taxi View Post
                            She is not listed on the USEA site either. We are in a new year now - perhaps she didn't satisfy a continuing education requirement?
                            Or perhaps they wouldn’t allow her to continue being certified?

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                            • Originally posted by pictureonemore View Post

                              Or perhaps they wouldn’t allow her to continue being certified?
                              We could only hope that to be true.

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                              • Originally posted by pictureonemore View Post

                                Or perhaps they wouldn’t allow her to continue being certified?
                                I sure hope so!

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                                • You know, it has been mentioned many times about what can we do when we have credible and truthful information on a professional that would lead a normal person to want to communicate to others to totally avoid them. Well, unlike in years past we do have something called the internet and sites such as this. It seems these days that there are more ways than ever to disseminate information to a huge audience, as Stormy has so skillfully done here. I think this should be thought of as a good thing.
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                                  • Daniels's allegations against Doughty-Hume are discussed in this article from the Dallas Morning News. Sounds like legal action might be in the works: https://www.dallasnews.com/news/dona...snt-hurt-trump

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                                    • Originally posted by Fergs View Post
                                      Daniels's allegations against Doughty-Hume are discussed in this article from the Dallas Morning News. Sounds like legal action might be in the works: https://www.dallasnews.com/news/dona...snt-hurt-trump
                                      That is one of the worst pieces of trash masquerading as journalism that I've seen in a long time.
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                                      • Originally posted by Fergs View Post
                                        Daniels's allegations against Doughty-Hume are discussed in this article from the Dallas Morning News. Sounds like legal action might be in the works: https://www.dallasnews.com/news/dona...snt-hurt-trump
                                        What a bizarre article...

                                        "She hopes to reunite with her daughter one day. She will be dead soon, she says." Classic textbook narcissism. I'm amazed they printed that. I've heard that from both my grandmother and mother (mother still alive, grandmother died 20 years after that proclamation).

                                        I would be interested in how a lawsuit brought by Doughty-Hume would turn out. Can she prove material loss? We have this thread but how many people reading COTH would have trained with her that are willing to come out and document that? I live 800 miles away and this thread is interesting to me because I've been in the place of the screwed over horse owner but distance prevents any real potential business relationship. I think the scariest thing would be to have a landmark case on the records that would keep people from speaking out against horse professionals that hurt animals and create dangerous situations. We already have a transparency problem - that would only make it worse.

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                                        • Good Lord, what a journalistic manure pile that POS was. I hope Stormy successfully sues the pants off everyone who has done her wrong including the idiots who posted photos of her home and neighborhood for all the world to see. And to think there were some whiners here who didn’t like her name being brought up on a thread about her being an equestrian.
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