Forum rules and no-advertising policy

As a participant on this forum, it is your responsibility to know and follow our rules. Please read this message in its entirety.

Board Rules

1. You're responsible for what you say.
As outlined in Section 230 of the Communications Decency Act, The Chronicle of the Horse and its affiliates, as well Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd., the developers of vBulletin, are not legally responsible for statements made in the Forums.

This is a public forum viewed by a wide spectrum of people, so please be mindful of what you say and who might be reading it--details of personal disputes may be better handled privately. While posters are legally responsible for their statements, the moderators may in their discretion remove or edit posts, though are not legally obligated to do so, regardless of content.

Users have the ability to modify or delete their own messages after posting. Moderators generally will not delete posts, threads or accounts unless they have been alerted and have determined that a post, thread or user has violated the Forums' policies. Moderators do not regularly independently monitor the Forums for such violations.

Profanity, outright vulgarity, blatant personal insults or otherwise inappropriate statements will not be tolerated and will be dealt with at the discretion of the moderators.

Users may provide their positive or negative experiences with or opinions of companies, products, individuals, etc.; however, accounts involving allegations of criminal behavior against named individuals or companies MUST be first-hand accounts and may NOT be made anonymously.

If a situation has been reported upon by a reputable news source or addressed by law enforcement or the legal system it is open for discussion, but if an individual wants to make their own claims of criminal behavior against a named party in the course of that discussion, they too must identify themselves by first and last name and the account must be first-person.

Criminal allegations that do not satisfy these requirements, when brought to our attention, may be removed pending satisfaction of these criteria, and we reserve the right to err on the side of caution when making these determinations.

Credible threats of suicide will be reported to the police along with identifying user information at our disposal, in addition to referring the user to suicide helpline resources such as 1-800-SUICIDE or 1-800-273-TALK.

2. Conversations in horse-related forums should be horse-related.
The forums are a wonderful source of information and support for members of the horse community. While it's understandably tempting to share information or search for input on other topics upon which members might have a similar level of knowledge, members must maintain the focus on horses.

3. Keep conversations productive, on topic and civil.
Discussion and disagreement are inevitable and encouraged; personal insults, diatribes and sniping comments are unproductive and unacceptable. Whether a subject is light-hearted or serious, keep posts focused on the current topic and of general interest to other participants of that thread. Utilize the private message feature or personal email where appropriate to address side topics or personal issues not related to the topic at large.

4. No advertising in the discussion forums.
Posts in the discussion forums directly or indirectly advertising horses, jobs, items or services for sale or wanted will be removed at the discretion of the moderators. Use of the private messaging feature or email addresses obtained through users' profiles for unsolicited advertising is not permitted.

Company representatives may participate in discussions and answer questions about their products or services, or suggest their products on recent threads if they fulfill the criteria of a query. False "testimonials" provided by company affiliates posing as general consumers are not appropriate, and self-promotion of sales, ad campaigns, etc. through the discussion forums is not allowed.

Paid advertising is available on our classifieds site and through the purchase of banner ads. The tightly monitored Giveaways forum permits free listings of genuinely free horses and items available or wanted (on a limited basis). Items offered for trade are not allowed.

Advertising Policy Specifics
When in doubt of whether something you want to post constitutes advertising, please contact a moderator privately in advance for further clarification. Refer to the following points for general guidelines:

Horses -- Only general discussion about the buying, leasing, selling and pricing of horses is permitted. If the post contains, or links to, the type of specific information typically found in a sales or wanted ad, and it's related to a horse for sale, regardless of who's selling it, it doesn't belong in the discussion forums.

Stallions -- Board members may ask for suggestions on breeding stallion recommendations. Stallion owners may reply to such queries by suggesting their own stallions, only if their horse fits the specific criteria of the original poster. Excessive promotion of a stallion by its owner or related parties is not permitted and will be addressed at the discretion of the moderators.

Services -- Members may use the forums to ask for general recommendations of trainers, barns, shippers, farriers, etc., and other members may answer those requests by suggesting themselves or their company, if their services fulfill the specific criteria of the original post. Members may not solicit other members for business if it is not in response to a direct, genuine query.

Products -- While members may ask for general opinions and suggestions on equipment, trailers, trucks, etc., they may not list the specific attributes for which they are in the market, as such posts serve as wanted ads.

Event Announcements -- Members may post one notification of an upcoming event that may be of interest to fellow members, if the original poster does not benefit financially from the event. Such threads may not be "bumped" excessively. Premium members may post their own notices in the Event Announcements forum.

Charities/Rescues -- Announcements for charitable or fundraising events can only be made for 501(c)(3) tax-exempt organizations. Special exceptions may be made, at the moderators' discretion and direction, for board-related events or fundraising activities in extraordinary circumstances.

Occasional posts regarding horses available for adoption through IRS-registered horse rescue or placement programs are permitted in the appropriate forums, but these threads may be limited at the discretion of the moderators. Individuals may not advertise or make announcements for horses in need of rescue, placement or adoption unless the horse is available through a recognized rescue or placement agency or government-run entity or the thread fits the criteria for and is located in the Giveaways forum.

5. Do not post copyrighted photographs unless you have purchased that photo and have permission to do so.

6. Respect other members.
As members are often passionate about their beliefs and intentions can easily be misinterpreted in this type of environment, try to explore or resolve the inevitable disagreements that arise in the course of threads calmly and rationally.

If you see a post that you feel violates the rules of the board, please click the �alert� button (exclamation point inside of a triangle) in the bottom left corner of the post, which will alert ONLY the moderators to the post in question. They will then take whatever action, or no action, as deemed appropriate for the situation at their discretion. Do not air grievances regarding other posters or the moderators in the discussion forums.

Please be advised that adding another user to your �Ignore� list via your User Control Panel can be a useful tactic, which blocks posts and private messages by members whose commentary you'd rather avoid reading.

7. We have the right to reproduce statements made in the forums.
The Chronicle of the Horse may copy, quote, link to or otherwise reproduce posts, or portions of posts, in print or online for advertising or editorial purposes, if attributed to their original authors, and by posting in this forum, you hereby grant to The Chronicle of the Horse a perpetual, non-exclusive license under copyright and other rights, to do so.

8. We reserve the right to enforce and amend the rules.
The moderators may delete, edit, move or close any post or thread at any time, or refrain from doing any of the foregoing, in their discretion, and may suspend or revoke a user's membership privileges at any time to maintain adherence to the rules and the general spirit of the forum. These rules may be amended at any time to address the current needs of the board.

Please see our full Terms of Service and Privacy Policy for more information.

Thanks for being a part of the COTH forums!

(Revised 5/9/18)
See more
See less

Would you take a chance on this little mare?

  • Filter
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts

    Would you take a chance on this little mare?

    So a vetting I had on a horse I was interested in fell through, and I had a breeder email me about this mare.

    Coming 4, 15.2h registered trakehner. She's my style, little and grey with a 'dare me' attitude, but has had a few issues being started under saddle. I guess some days she's fine, some days she's shaky, tense and wants to bolt off. Wondering if you guys think she's a nice enough mare to take a chance on and see if I can turn her around and make a nice little horse of her. My last guy was similar in his nervous demeanor, but he turned out phenomenal. Would love some opinions!

    Free Jump-

    Are you thinking to resell her or keep her? That's a tough size to resell even if she grows an inch or so, especially if they are not easy. I would seriously think about x-raying her back either way as that sounds like it could be a physical issue. She's very cute though.


      Yes, she is nice enough. Love her. Please tell me how you horse shop, you always find the nicest horses!


        Original Poster

        I'm thinking of reselling for sure. My last two horses have been grey resale projects, 14.3h and 15h. I made really good money and had no trouble selling them, though I know that was mostly to do with the fact they were Connemaras. Grey and cute helps as well Breeder says this mare's full brother is 16.1h, late bloomer. Interesting thought about xraying the back. I don't know what exactly is going on with her, breeder just thinks she's immature. But she's a good price and cute enough I might just go for it! Thanks for the enabling fordtraktor!


          I don't think her size would hold her back if she's grey: she looks nice. I love her type, wish she was more active in the jump chute but she is good and cute and has looks aplenty.
          AETERNUM VALE, INVICTUS - 7/10/2012


            Original Poster

            Curious what you mean by 'more active' in the chute, beowulf?


              For what it's worth I like her. She looks like a lot of fun and very athletic.


                As the owner of a grey Trakehner mare I say go for it I guess it depends on if the bolting/tenseness under saddle is her being a nervous baby, or if she is saying no thank you I don't want to play.


                  Based only on that really short video clip, there's something funky about the way she jumps. I can't put my finger on it but it's something about how she is using herself. (I am discounting the horrible first fences when she had no approach.)

                  Having said that that poor horse was given no chance with the way that chute was set up. I would prefer to see a lot more of her, moving, confo and a proper chute before passing judgment.

                  For myself, I don't buy mares, under 16hh, for resale any more.

                  You never know what kind of obsessive compulsive crazy person you are until another person imitates your behaviour at a three-day. --Gry2Yng


                    At just coming 4 , I'd venture the issues are immaturity . I honestly didn't see anything off putting in the jump chute other than the fact that I thought a couple were a bit hight for a baby that age. And IMO she is still very much a baby . I'd also venture that size wise she will fill out to the 16 hh mark just given her age . I'd take a chance on her . She is super cute and her confo is lovely.


                      It was apparently the horse's first time in the chute. I wouldn't pass an adverse judgement on her because of that.


                        Turn her out till she's five.


                          when judging a horse in a chute, I watch the back end and the bascule. They are good. Ignore the front end on a baby, that's very fixable and just greenness, especially if the forearms come up level which here they do. she isn't a natural knee hanger and the rest comes with some experience. I think her hind end is naturally very good -- even, not tied in, careful enough. Good instincts.

                          I am sure there are various opinions about what to look for in a chute, but that's what I look for.


                            Originally posted by fordtraktor View Post
                            when judging a horse in a chute, I watch the back end and the bascule.
                            This is generally what I look for too, plus or minus a few things: basic style/technique, effort, and the way they 'answer' what is a new question: are they too careful, not careful, do they blunder, does it seem 'easy'?

                            That being said, I had the same impression as Blugal. Even a baby's first time through a chute, I don't want to see laggard, struggling, or a whole lot of effort to climb over a 2'6ft fence.

                            That being said, it's young, apparently her first time - sometimes freejumping is not the best way to judge a horse's athletic ability and I have been wrong before.

                            I think for what you want she is perfect, and a good resale option because she's young, cute and grey - for whatever reason, the greys don't seem to have the same "must be 17h+!!!!" requirement for buyers that the bays/chestnuts do. She is athletic enough for what you and most people want, and that is all that matters. I like her type and she's got a sweet, trying face.

                            P.S I liked Cadenza too, the one that plays next. Where are you where you have no short supply of cute nice horses?
                            AETERNUM VALE, INVICTUS - 7/10/2012


                              I strongly recommend you buy this one, OP, and then post back in a year with videos. I think she'll turn out to be game, adorable, and a catty, clever jumper with easily scope for prelim.


                                Original Poster

                                Thanks for the replies! Some mixed opinions for sure. I'm in Alberta, Canada, far away from what seems to be the majority of nice prospects for sale right now! Distance isn't as much of a problem as our dollar value. I may take the chance on her as my ankle has healed and I've been horseless for 2 months, getting a little bit desperate! Would rather a nice OTTB for sure, but there has been nothing come up around here.


                                  super hard to tell as the video is in slow motion....most horses look better in slow motion.

                                  By the pictures, I wouldn't expect her to grow any taller. I have a lot of young horses...and she just doesn't have the look of one that is still growing up. She likely WILL fill out even more.

                                  Too bad about the OTTB mare you had posted as I liked her more. If this mare is super cheap....she might be a fun project. I didn't dislike her but she would need to be cheap if I was buying for re-sale as small and mare will make her a harder sell. So I would count on putting re-training in and competition miles.
                                  ** Tact is the ability to tell someone to go to hell in such a way that they look forward to the trip. ~Winston Churchill? **


                                    I liked her work o/f better than I liked her on the flat. She's tidy, good with her front end even though a little disorganized on the first two. She figured it out, and carried on.

                                    Re: the flat work, it could possibly be improved with better footing-videoing in the mud just isn't kind.
                                    Some riders change their horse, they change their saddle, they change their teacher; they never change themselves.

                                    Remember the horse does all the work, we just sit there and look pretty.