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    Would you take a chance on this little mare?

    So a vetting I had on a horse I was interested in fell through, and I had a breeder email me about this mare.

    Coming 4, 15.2h registered trakehner. She's my style, little and grey with a 'dare me' attitude, but has had a few issues being started under saddle. I guess some days she's fine, some days she's shaky, tense and wants to bolt off. Wondering if you guys think she's a nice enough mare to take a chance on and see if I can turn her around and make a nice little horse of her. My last guy was similar in his nervous demeanor, but he turned out phenomenal. Would love some opinions!

    https://www.flickr.com/photos/910244.../shares/9CM909

    Free Jump-
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=06EkoXz46H8

    #2
    Are you thinking to resell her or keep her? That's a tough size to resell even if she grows an inch or so, especially if they are not easy. I would seriously think about x-raying her back either way as that sounds like it could be a physical issue. She's very cute though.

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      #3
      Yes, she is nice enough. Love her. Please tell me how you horse shop, you always find the nicest horses!

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        #4
        I'm thinking of reselling for sure. My last two horses have been grey resale projects, 14.3h and 15h. I made really good money and had no trouble selling them, though I know that was mostly to do with the fact they were Connemaras. Grey and cute helps as well Breeder says this mare's full brother is 16.1h, late bloomer. Interesting thought about xraying the back. I don't know what exactly is going on with her, breeder just thinks she's immature. But she's a good price and cute enough I might just go for it! Thanks for the enabling fordtraktor!

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          #5
          I don't think her size would hold her back if she's grey: she looks nice. I love her type, wish she was more active in the jump chute but she is good and cute and has looks aplenty.
          AETERNUM VALE, INVICTUS - 7/10/2012

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            #6
            Curious what you mean by 'more active' in the chute, beowulf?

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              #7
              For what it's worth I like her. She looks like a lot of fun and very athletic.

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                #8
                As the owner of a grey Trakehner mare I say go for it I guess it depends on if the bolting/tenseness under saddle is her being a nervous baby, or if she is saying no thank you I don't want to play.

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                  #9
                  Based only on that really short video clip, there's something funky about the way she jumps. I can't put my finger on it but it's something about how she is using herself. (I am discounting the horrible first fences when she had no approach.)

                  Having said that that poor horse was given no chance with the way that chute was set up. I would prefer to see a lot more of her, moving, confo and a proper chute before passing judgment.

                  For myself, I don't buy mares, under 16hh, for resale any more.
                  Blugal

                  You never know what kind of obsessive compulsive crazy person you are until another person imitates your behaviour at a three-day. --Gry2Yng

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                    #10
                    At just coming 4 , I'd venture the issues are immaturity . I honestly didn't see anything off putting in the jump chute other than the fact that I thought a couple were a bit hight for a baby that age. And IMO she is still very much a baby . I'd also venture that size wise she will fill out to the 16 hh mark just given her age . I'd take a chance on her . She is super cute and her confo is lovely.

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                      #11
                      It was apparently the horse's first time in the chute. I wouldn't pass an adverse judgement on her because of that.

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                        #12
                        Turn her out till she's five.

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                          #13
                          when judging a horse in a chute, I watch the back end and the bascule. They are good. Ignore the front end on a baby, that's very fixable and just greenness, especially if the forearms come up level which here they do. she isn't a natural knee hanger and the rest comes with some experience. I think her hind end is naturally very good -- even, not tied in, careful enough. Good instincts.

                          I am sure there are various opinions about what to look for in a chute, but that's what I look for.

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                            Originally posted by fordtraktor View Post
                            when judging a horse in a chute, I watch the back end and the bascule.
                            This is generally what I look for too, plus or minus a few things: basic style/technique, effort, and the way they 'answer' what is a new question: are they too careful, not careful, do they blunder, does it seem 'easy'?

                            That being said, I had the same impression as Blugal. Even a baby's first time through a chute, I don't want to see laggard, struggling, or a whole lot of effort to climb over a 2'6ft fence.

                            That being said, it's young, apparently her first time - sometimes freejumping is not the best way to judge a horse's athletic ability and I have been wrong before.

                            I think for what you want she is perfect, and a good resale option because she's young, cute and grey - for whatever reason, the greys don't seem to have the same "must be 17h+!!!!" requirement for buyers that the bays/chestnuts do. She is athletic enough for what you and most people want, and that is all that matters. I like her type and she's got a sweet, trying face.

                            P.S I liked Cadenza too, the one that plays next. Where are you where you have no short supply of cute nice horses?
                            AETERNUM VALE, INVICTUS - 7/10/2012

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                              #15
                              I strongly recommend you buy this one, OP, and then post back in a year with videos. I think she'll turn out to be game, adorable, and a catty, clever jumper with easily scope for prelim.

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                                #16
                                Thanks for the replies! Some mixed opinions for sure. I'm in Alberta, Canada, far away from what seems to be the majority of nice prospects for sale right now! Distance isn't as much of a problem as our dollar value. I may take the chance on her as my ankle has healed and I've been horseless for 2 months, getting a little bit desperate! Would rather a nice OTTB for sure, but there has been nothing come up around here.

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                                  #17
                                  super hard to tell as the video is in slow motion....most horses look better in slow motion.

                                  By the pictures, I wouldn't expect her to grow any taller. I have a lot of young horses...and she just doesn't have the look of one that is still growing up. She likely WILL fill out even more.

                                  Too bad about the OTTB mare you had posted as I liked her more. If this mare is super cheap....she might be a fun project. I didn't dislike her but she would need to be cheap if I was buying for re-sale as small and mare will make her a harder sell. So I would count on putting re-training in and competition miles.
                                  ** Tact is the ability to tell someone to go to hell in such a way that they look forward to the trip. ~Winston Churchill? **

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                                    #18
                                    I liked her work o/f better than I liked her on the flat. She's tidy, good with her front end even though a little disorganized on the first two. She figured it out, and carried on.

                                    Re: the flat work, it could possibly be improved with better footing-videoing in the mud just isn't kind.
                                    Some riders change their horse, they change their saddle, they change their teacher; they never change themselves.

                                    Remember the horse does all the work, we just sit there and look pretty.

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