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MEDAL POSITIONS CHANGED AGAIN _ GERMANS BACK ON TOP???? USA may now protest (just on

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  • #21
    What happened! There's no story about it or anything. If she did have a foul, I commend them for pursuing proper ruling, but wow, that stinks!
    You've got to be kidding....

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    • #22
      It said "foul" in the BBC, and then went on to say Pippa was in 3rd going into the individuals.

      It looks like they take the cumulative score for the individual medals, so ths time faults would count, if they don't win the appeal.

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      • #23
        Equibrit - I can't find official results at that site. When I click on medals it says that none have been awarded. The link you gave has the results after dressage and xc only.

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        • #24
          <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by tle:
          Dang... go to lunch and the world turns upside-down.

          I don't think this puts her out of the running for an individual medal though, since that will be decided on the next SJ round. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

          Actually, I think it DOES. Her total penalty points are now 49.60. There are at least 6 riders with better scores than that...Chances are slim. Not GONE, but pretty slim! Which means that Kim now has a much better shot at medaling, and medaling WELL...
          model citizen, zero discipline

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          • #25
            What's going on? I am totally confused, who won what?

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            • #26
              It shows she is now in 8th place so far in the individual standings...

              http://www.athens2004.com/en/Equestr...QX003201_C73CF

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              • #27
                That does bite as no one wants a somewhat technical victory like that. Especially well after the rounds are done the story goes across the news wires. AP "In Medal Reversal, France Wins Equestrian"

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                • #28
                  I just looked at the NBC results and it says USA team was fourth. Kim S is in 3rd individual although the listings have her a second.

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                  • #29
                    I just did a search on this...the scores/standings are everywhere! who's on first? what's on second?I wish someone would make it official. Bettina must be shattered, I doubt anyone wants to medal under these circumstances! Hopefully, she will get redemption in the individual round.

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                    • #30
                      Here's the official site's team results:

                      http://www.athens2004.com/en/Equestr...QX403201_C73CE

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                      • #31
                        I don't get it...what was Bettina Hoy's foul?

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                        • #32
                          <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by 2Dogs:
                          I just looked at the NBC results and it says USA team was fourth. Kim S is in 3rd individual although the listings have her a second. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

                          That site seems to be consistently late in its updates!
                          model citizen, zero discipline

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                          • #33
                            Just one more reason why I hate this format, no one even knows how to keep score - can't imagine what will happen during the individual rounds as it appears no one even knows who the top 25 are at this moment.

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                            • #34
                              How devastating.

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                              • #35
                                http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/olym...an/3577172.stm

                                This article says Bettina Hoy was penalized 12 points for crossing the start line twice. Unbelievable.

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                                • #36
                                  Oh god, how awful for Bettina Hoy. She was so happy after her round too.
                                  http://community.webshots.com/user/lskel84

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                                  • #37
                                    Acording to Mark Todd - who is commentating for the BBC with the former top UK Event rider Lorna Clark - the START flags on the SJ course were VERY far apart, and it appears Betina started the clock during her circle and never knew it.

                                    BUT NO ONE ELSE NOTICED EITHER - and the clock shown by the BBC showed her just FINE!

                                    YES, I would LOVE us to win a medal, but as everyone has said, NOT THIS WAY!!

                                    I think the Germans will probably lodge an official protest - or at least I hope so.

                                    I was thinking how my friend Ann's Dad was going to be abolutely ON TOP OF THE WORLD that a horse HE found, and Ann developed won a Gold Medal!! The man is now in his early 80's (I believe) and DESERVES IT!

                                    co-author of 101 Jumping Exercises & The Rider's Fitness Program; Soon to come: Dead Ringer - a tale of equine mystery and intrique! Former Moderator!

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                                    • #38
                                      The official Athens site says the results are "final." That could mean that the Germans protested and lost already. Or it could mean that they are still subject to protest.

                                      That is awful. I mean, yeah, great to get a medal and all, but geez, not like this...

                                      How devastated she must be. And how badly everyone must feel for her and her team!
                                      "I don't want to sound like a broken record here, but why is it that a woman will forgive homicidal behavior in a horse, yet be highly critical of a man for leaving the toilet seat up?" Dave Barry

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                                      • #39
                                        I'm reading on the AThens site that results are "delayed due to a potential time correction"

                                        What is going on!?

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                                        • #40
                                          The person (or team) that "DESERVES" the medal is the one that rode according to the rules to win it. This does NOT cheapen anyone's medal who moved up. I really hate it for Betina Hoy, but it's always tough to get docked for a technicality. If she'd gotten lost on XC an had extra time or done something really unfortunte in dressage noone would think twice about it. The timing is a shame and makes it more dramatic but doesn't detract from anyone elses performance.

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