• Welcome to the Chronicle Forums.
    Please complete your profile. The forums and the rest of www.chronofhorse.com has single sign-in, so your log in information for one will automatically work for the other. Disclaimer: The opinions expressed here are the views of the individual and do not necessarily reflect the views and opinions of The Chronicle of the Horse.



Forum rules and no-advertising policy

As a participant on this forum, it is your responsibility to know and follow our rules. Please read this message in its entirety.

Board Rules

1. You’re responsible for what you say.
As outlined in Section 230 of the Communications Decency Act, The Chronicle of the Horse and its affiliates, as well Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd., the developers of vBulletin, are not legally responsible for statements made in the forums.

This is a public forum viewed by a wide spectrum of people, so please be mindful of what you say and who might be reading it—details of personal disputes are likely better handled privately. While posters are legally responsible for their statements, the moderators may in their discretion remove or edit posts that violate these rules. Users have the ability to modify or delete their own messages after posting, but administrators generally will not delete posts, threads or accounts upon request.

Outright inflammatory, vulgar, harassing, malicious or otherwise inappropriate statements and criminal charges unsubstantiated by a reputable news source or legal documentation will not be tolerated and will be dealt with at the discretion of the moderators.

2. Conversations in horse-related forums should be horse-related.
The forums are a wonderful source of information and support for members of the horse community. While it’s understandably tempting to share information or search for input on other topics upon which members might have a similar level of knowledge, members must maintain the focus on horses.

3. Keep conversations productive, on topic and civil.
Discussion and disagreement are inevitable and encouraged; personal insults, diatribes and sniping comments are unproductive and unacceptable. Whether a subject is light-hearted or serious, keep posts focused on the current topic and of general interest to other participants of that thread. Utilize the private message feature or personal email where appropriate to address side topics or personal issues not related to the topic at large.

4. No advertising in the discussion forums.
Posts in the discussion forums directly or indirectly advertising horses, jobs, items or services for sale or wanted will be removed at the discretion of the moderators. Use of the private messaging feature or email addresses obtained through users’ profiles for unsolicited advertising is not permitted.

Company representatives may participate in discussions and answer questions about their products or services, or suggest their products on recent threads if they fulfill the criteria of a query. False "testimonials" provided by company affiliates posing as general consumers are not appropriate, and self-promotion of sales, ad campaigns, etc. through the discussion forums is not allowed.

Paid advertising is available on our classifieds site and through the purchase of banner ads. The tightly monitored Giveaways forum permits free listings of genuinely free horses and items available or wanted (on a limited basis). Items offered for trade are not allowed.

Advertising Policy Specifics
When in doubt of whether something you want to post constitutes advertising, please contact a moderator privately in advance for further clarification. Refer to the following points for general guidelines:

Horses – Only general discussion about the buying, leasing, selling and pricing of horses is permitted. If the post contains, or links to, the type of specific information typically found in a sales or wanted ad, and it’s related to a horse for sale, regardless of who’s selling it, it doesn’t belong in the discussion forums.

Stallions – Board members may ask for suggestions on breeding stallion recommendations. Stallion owners may reply to such queries by suggesting their own stallions, only if their horse fits the specific criteria of the original poster. Excessive promotion of a stallion by its owner or related parties is not permitted and will be addressed at the discretion of the moderators.

Services – Members may use the forums to ask for general recommendations of trainers, barns, shippers, farriers, etc., and other members may answer those requests by suggesting themselves or their company, if their services fulfill the specific criteria of the original post. Members may not solicit other members for business if it is not in response to a direct, genuine query.

Products – While members may ask for general opinions and suggestions on equipment, trailers, trucks, etc., they may not list the specific attributes for which they are in the market, as such posts serve as wanted ads.

Event Announcements – Members may post one notification of an upcoming event that may be of interest to fellow members, if the original poster does not benefit financially from the event. Such threads may not be “bumped” excessively. Premium members may post their own notices in the Event Announcements forum.

Charities/Rescues – Announcements for charitable or fundraising events can only be made for 501(c)(3) tax-exempt organizations. Special exceptions may be made, at the moderators’ discretion and direction, for board-related events or fundraising activities in extraordinary circumstances.

Occasional posts regarding horses available for adoption through IRS-registered horse rescue or placement programs are permitted in the appropriate forums, but these threads may be limited at the discretion of the moderators. Individuals may not advertise or make announcements for horses in need of rescue, placement or adoption unless the horse is available through a recognized rescue or placement agency or government-run entity or the thread fits the criteria for and is located in the Giveaways forum.

5. Do not post copyrighted photographs unless you have purchased that photo and have permission to do so.

6. Respect other members.
As members are often passionate about their beliefs and intentions can easily be misinterpreted in this type of environment, try to explore or resolve the inevitable disagreements that arise in the course of threads calmly and rationally.

If you see a post that you feel violates the rules of the board, please click the “alert” button (exclamation point inside of a triangle) in the bottom left corner of the post, which will alert ONLY the moderators to the post in question. They will then take whatever action, or no action, as deemed appropriate for the situation at their discretion. Do not air grievances regarding other posters or the moderators in the discussion forums.

Please be advised that adding another user to your “Ignore” list via your User Control Panel can be a useful tactic, which blocks posts and private messages by members whose commentary you’d rather avoid reading.

7. We have the right to reproduce statements made in the forums.
The Chronicle of the Horse may copy, quote, link to or otherwise reproduce posts, or portions of posts, in print or online for advertising or editorial purposes, if attributed to their original authors, and by posting in this forum, you hereby grant to The Chronicle of the Horse a perpetual, non-exclusive license under copyright and other rights, to do so.

8. We reserve the right to enforce and amend the rules.
The moderators may delete, edit, move or close any post or thread at any time, or refrain from doing any of the foregoing, in their discretion, and may suspend or revoke a user’s membership privileges at any time to maintain adherence to the rules and the general spirit of the forum. These rules may be amended at any time to address the current needs of the board.

Please see our full Terms of Service and Privacy Policy for more information.

Thanks for being a part of the COTH forums!

(Revised 1/26/16)
See more
See less


This topic is closed.
  • Filter
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts

  • #21
    What happened! There's no story about it or anything. If she did have a foul, I commend them for pursuing proper ruling, but wow, that stinks!
    You've got to be kidding....


    • #22
      It said "foul" in the BBC, and then went on to say Pippa was in 3rd going into the individuals.

      It looks like they take the cumulative score for the individual medals, so ths time faults would count, if they don't win the appeal.


      • #23
        Equibrit - I can't find official results at that site. When I click on medals it says that none have been awarded. The link you gave has the results after dressage and xc only.


        • #24
          <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by tle:
          Dang... go to lunch and the world turns upside-down.

          I don't think this puts her out of the running for an individual medal though, since that will be decided on the next SJ round. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

          Actually, I think it DOES. Her total penalty points are now 49.60. There are at least 6 riders with better scores than that...Chances are slim. Not GONE, but pretty slim! Which means that Kim now has a much better shot at medaling, and medaling WELL...
          model citizen, zero discipline


          • #25
            What's going on? I am totally confused, who won what?


            • #26
              It shows she is now in 8th place so far in the individual standings...



              • #27
                That does bite as no one wants a somewhat technical victory like that. Especially well after the rounds are done the story goes across the news wires. AP "In Medal Reversal, France Wins Equestrian"


                • #28
                  I just looked at the NBC results and it says USA team was fourth. Kim S is in 3rd individual although the listings have her a second.


                  • #29
                    I just did a search on this...the scores/standings are everywhere! who's on first? what's on second?I wish someone would make it official. Bettina must be shattered, I doubt anyone wants to medal under these circumstances! Hopefully, she will get redemption in the individual round.


                    • #30
                      Here's the official site's team results:



                      • #31
                        I don't get it...what was Bettina Hoy's foul?


                        • #32
                          <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by 2Dogs:
                          I just looked at the NBC results and it says USA team was fourth. Kim S is in 3rd individual although the listings have her a second. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

                          That site seems to be consistently late in its updates!
                          model citizen, zero discipline


                          • #33
                            Just one more reason why I hate this format, no one even knows how to keep score - can't imagine what will happen during the individual rounds as it appears no one even knows who the top 25 are at this moment.


                            • #34
                              How devastating.


                              • #35

                                This article says Bettina Hoy was penalized 12 points for crossing the start line twice. Unbelievable.


                                • #36
                                  Oh god, how awful for Bettina Hoy. She was so happy after her round too.


                                  • #37
                                    Acording to Mark Todd - who is commentating for the BBC with the former top UK Event rider Lorna Clark - the START flags on the SJ course were VERY far apart, and it appears Betina started the clock during her circle and never knew it.

                                    BUT NO ONE ELSE NOTICED EITHER - and the clock shown by the BBC showed her just FINE!

                                    YES, I would LOVE us to win a medal, but as everyone has said, NOT THIS WAY!!

                                    I think the Germans will probably lodge an official protest - or at least I hope so.

                                    I was thinking how my friend Ann's Dad was going to be abolutely ON TOP OF THE WORLD that a horse HE found, and Ann developed won a Gold Medal!! The man is now in his early 80's (I believe) and DESERVES IT!

                                    co-author of 101 Jumping Exercises & The Rider's Fitness Program; Soon to come: Dead Ringer - a tale of equine mystery and intrique! Former Moderator!


                                    • #38
                                      The official Athens site says the results are "final." That could mean that the Germans protested and lost already. Or it could mean that they are still subject to protest.

                                      That is awful. I mean, yeah, great to get a medal and all, but geez, not like this...

                                      How devastated she must be. And how badly everyone must feel for her and her team!
                                      "I don't want to sound like a broken record here, but why is it that a woman will forgive homicidal behavior in a horse, yet be highly critical of a man for leaving the toilet seat up?" Dave Barry


                                      • #39
                                        I'm reading on the AThens site that results are "delayed due to a potential time correction"

                                        What is going on!?


                                        • #40
                                          The person (or team) that "DESERVES" the medal is the one that rode according to the rules to win it. This does NOT cheapen anyone's medal who moved up. I really hate it for Betina Hoy, but it's always tough to get docked for a technicality. If she'd gotten lost on XC an had extra time or done something really unfortunte in dressage noone would think twice about it. The timing is a shame and makes it more dramatic but doesn't detract from anyone elses performance.