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FEI set to remove all reference to long format CCI in 2009

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  • FEI set to remove all reference to long format CCI in 2009

    I have been unabale to find reference to this on the FEI web site. If this is the truth, then we can safely say that the long format is truely a thing of the past...as far as the FEI are concerned. Wondering what will happen to the CCI*...if the FEI have abandoned the long format then will they be providing judges for a long format if a particular country chooses to host one?


    Anyone with any further info on the subject?
    Last edited by snoopy; Dec. 17, 2008, 02:58 PM.

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    That would fit with a comment I heard from someone at the USEA convention who started talking about how gratifying it is that ULRs were speaking out stroongly in favor of retaining CCI*, and then he corrected himself and said, well, CCN's.

    I missed the BoG where maybe it would have been brought up formally, but almost seems like a good thing, if it makes it easier to run long formats because they won't need the FEI expenses.

    In the bigger picture there are downsides, if true, of course, but I tend toward the glass half full...
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      I'd like to remove all references to the FEI in 2009.

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      • #4
        We are at war with Eurasia and have always been at war with Eurasia.

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        • #5
          And also.

          *waves hand in Jedi mind trick*

          You saw no long format here.

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            I have had discussions with a couple of different people in Western Canada about trying to host a Training 3D and CCN. When I get back this summer I think I'll see what we can do. Already have some enthusiastic 20-somethings and 50/60-somethings (some of whom ran local and large regional 3-days "back in the day").
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            • #7
              I think keeping the long format at the CCN level would be great, even if just the one-star level. Maybe removing the FEI neccessities would make it slightly more affordable to run and participate in. Why not?
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                Originally posted by WNT View Post
                I think keeping the long format at the CCN level would be great, even if just the one-star level. Maybe removing the FEI neccessities would make it slightly more affordable to run and participate in. Why not?

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by JER View Post
                  I'd like to remove all references to the FEI in 2009.

                  Right on.

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                  • #10
                    It is my opinion that the FEI should conduct a self reproductive effort while ambulating at a rapid pace. They are the proximal end of the male reproductive organ.

                    This is the epitome of let's burn the village to save it.

                    I agree with the FEI out of the picture maybe those with a real set will be able to put together affordable LF competitions.

                    Reed

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                      #11
                      Originally posted by Bobthehorse View Post
                      And also.

                      *waves hand in Jedi mind trick*

                      You saw no long format here.


                      or:


                      "pay no attention to the man behind the screen"


                      OZ has spoken

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                        Hahaha!

                        Ahhhh my fictional movie life finally pays off.

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                          I heard this at the convention too and I have to say that I had a pretty negative reaction to it. As fairly evil as the FEI is, if the long format is no longer seen as an equal to the short format (as it will not be an "internationally sanctioned" event) it might cause an even further drop in entries. Also, how will this affect qualifications? The way I heard about this change was through the YR open forum, where it came up that long formats will no longer be acceptable ways to qualify for the NAYRC CCI*-J. If they can't be used as qualifications and don't appear to hold the same "prestige,", I fear that many people will bypass them for the short format.
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                            Originally posted by snoopy View Post
                            That's great in theory, but do CCN* count towards a qualifying result?

                            me thinks that most trainers would be pushing their kids/clients to the FEI instead of CCN's. You'd have to have something mighty enticing to make it worth while... like prize money.

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                              Originally posted by Jazzy Lady View Post
                              That's great in theory, but do CCN* count towards a qualifying result?

                              me thinks that most trainers would be pushing their kids/clients to the FEI instead of CCN's. You'd have to have something mighty enticing to make it worth while... like prize money.

                              I think a CCN would/should have a place with in the sport....regardless of qualifications. There is a huge sector of the sport who are not interested in FEI qualifications....

                              Some need to think outside the "FEI box" and recognize that the FEI is of little importance to MANY in the sport.

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                                Originally posted by snoopy View Post
                                I have been unabale to find reference to this on the FEI web site. If this is the truth, then we can safely say that the long format is truely a thing of the past...as far as the FEI are concerned. Wondering what will happen to the CCI*...if the FEI have abandoned the long format then will they be providing judges for a long format if a particular country chooses to host one?


                                Anyone with any further info on the subject?
                                The 2009 FEI rules for Eventing are here.
                                http://www.fei.org/Disciplines/Event...ter%20GA08.pdf

                                They managed to leave in a reference to "steeplechase" in the section on practice obstacles ( 515.4) but that is IT. No other references to steeplechase.
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                                  I wonder though... Say you've done 4 prelims, things have gone well, but maybe you aren't quite willing to drive 3 days to get to the nearest CCI*, plus pay the associated $250+ for the FEI passport, $100+ for the vet to sign it & give flu shots, and $600? for the entry.

                                  Instead, at one of the usual fall events in your area, there is a CCN offered, which is designed a bit more in the "old style" straight-forward XC, and includes the classic format phases A-C. You don't need any extra paperwork, and the entry is about in line with the HT, perhaps $250-300, because the event doesn't need extra (or foreign) officials.

                                  If I could make that work... heck I'd ride in it!
                                  Blugal

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                                    Originally posted by Blugal View Post
                                    I wonder though... Say you've done 4 prelims, things have gone well, but maybe you aren't quite willing to drive 3 days to get to the nearest CCI*, plus pay the associated $250+ for the FEI passport, $100+ for the vet to sign it & give flu shots, and $600? for the entry.

                                    Instead, at one of the usual fall events in your area, there is a CCN offered, which is designed a bit more in the "old style" straight-forward XC, and includes the classic format phases A-C. You don't need any extra paperwork, and the entry is about in line with the HT, perhaps $250-300, because the event doesn't need extra (or foreign) officials.

                                    If I could make that work... heck I'd ride in it!

                                    exactly!!

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                                      Originally posted by Janet View Post
                                      The 2009 FEI rules for Eventing are here.
                                      http://www.fei.org/Disciplines/Event...ter%20GA08.pdf

                                      They managed to leave in a reference to "steeplechase" in the section on practice obstacles ( 515.4) but that is IT. No other references to steeplechase.

                                      Many thanks Janet!!!

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                                        me too!
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