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  • Ok I have a question. There was one rider I saw yesterday riding for the FEI? What the heck does that mean? Usually they show the countries the riders are from. Also as soon as that horse left the gate I looked at my dd and said no way is that horse fit enough or interested enough in running this event. I never thought he'd make it through and then they had the fall at the water. Who is this guy and horse?
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    • Wow NBC, that had to be the crappiest coverage of a 4* Event like Rolex that I've ever seen.

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      • Originally posted by riderboy View Post
        Wow NBC, that had to be the crappiest coverage of a 4* Event like Rolex that I've ever seen.
        Harrumph, guess you should've stayed!
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        • Originally posted by rabicon View Post
          Ok I have a question. There was one rider I saw yesterday riding for the FEI? What the heck does that mean? Usually they show the countries the riders are from. Also as soon as that horse left the gate I looked at my dd and said no way is that horse fit enough or interested enough in running this event. I never thought he'd make it through and then they had the fall at the water. Who is this guy and horse?
          I think you are talking about Ronald Zabala Goetschel and Master Rose. I saw him at jump 9 and he looked good there. I don't know why they list him as FEI, he is from Ecuador but makes him home in the US. Ronald is a wonderful person, rider and is part of Wise Equestrian saddles. I am thinking this is who you are referring to.

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          • Yep that's who it was. I don't know him at all so I couldn't figure out riding for the FEI. He seemed like a good rider, heck better than me lol but i just didn't think the horse look fit enough, nor cared much about running lol. Kind of reminded me of my retired tadpole level horse lol. Little overweight, slow, not very catty and could really cared less if he did this lol.
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            • Originally posted by ACMEeventing View Post
              Harrumph, guess you should've stayed!
              Good looks and brains in one package, your hubby is a lucky man! Great to see you and you are right, shoulda stayed for stadium, SJ was awesome! We got back last night and rode today, small consolation.

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              • Originally posted by rabicon View Post
                Yep that's who it was. I don't know him at all so I couldn't figure out riding for the FEI. He seemed like a good rider, heck better than me lol but i just didn't think the horse look fit enough, nor cared much about running lol. Kind of reminded me of my retired tadpole level horse lol. Little overweight, slow, not very catty and could really cared less if he did this lol.
                That's a nice horse and Ronald rides him well. They've looked fit ebnough when I've seen them in the past. I didn't see their round this time but maybe whatever weird spirits showed up in the barn during the lunch break got them too.

                Eta someone in another thread said the FEI designation has something to do with something going on with the ecuadorean sports federation and has impacted all sports. For equestrian, it means they ride by provision of the FEI.

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                • Originally posted by riderboy View Post
                  Wow NBC, that had to be the crappiest coverage of a 4* Event like Rolex that I've ever seen.
                  Agreed! it was terrible, Just an afterthought, So glad I had USEF!

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                  • Yeah he looked like a great rider, glad that they are ok I just didn't get the FEI thing and the horse didn't look like you typical 4* horse. Maybe there was something going around the barn for the afternoon riders.
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                    • Can I just give a quick "I'm a huge new fan!" shout out towards Erin Sylvester? She was so sweet and personable when she signed pictures for us. She was so cheerful and actually held a nice conversation with us! I can't wait to see more of her. And she rides a TB!

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                      • Originally posted by Superminion View Post
                        C And she rides a TB!
                        She does ride TBs but I'm pretty sure her 4* horse is a Trak/TB cross (although he does have a lot of TB). She rides a really nice OTTB mare name Peace Proposal. I think she is a prelim/Intermed. now. She rides a couple of other OTTBs as well....and rides TBs very nicely.
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                        • Does the lovely winner have less xx blood in the first two generations than is typical?

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                          • Originally posted by omare View Post
                            Does the lovely winner have less xx blood in the first two generations than is typical?

                            yes but his dam line clearly has some blood. Again..people get fixated on percentages....when it is really what are the traits that are showing through. Obviously a higher percentage of blood increases you chance of the blood traits showing through but not always.

                            But I think what many are finding with eventers is having more blood in the dam is likely a better chance of producing an eventer with blood traits. It takes more generations of crossing the TB on the heavy mare to get the more modern horse we want in eventing.
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                            • Big congratulations to Lynn, who finished 5th - with a broken finger.
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                              • Originally posted by Janet View Post
                                Big congratulations to Lynn, who finished 5th - with a broken finger.
                                Here, here! And not only in 5th, but as the highest placed lady rider, the highest placed OTTB, the award for best turn out on Sunday AND best conditioned horse overall, the only American to SJ double clear AND she was one of only TWO riders (the other being WFP) to finish on their dressage score. She and Donner are total rockstars!
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                                • I have a couple of curiosity questions I hope you guys can answer.

                                  I absolutely LOVED watching the USEF live coverage and especially enjoyed the commentary on the cross country portion. While I don't think it's anything I'd ever have the guts to do, it was fun to live vicariously through Peter Atkins and his helmet cam footage of his and Henny's run!

                                  So my questions are thus (the silly one first): I noticed a portion of the riders in scarlet jackets for the stadium jump -- what does that signify (if anything)? Did they place in the top X in a prior four-star so it's like a bragging rights thing?

                                  Second question: while I understand the roots of the sport and the point of the dressage portion is to show trainability, obedience, etc, and the cross country portion is to show stamina, agility, courage, etc, what is the purpose behind the stadium portion? Is it to show that the animal still has the stamina and agility to jump the day after the cross country leg? Does jumping a stadium course cleanly signify something that jumping cross country obstacles doesn't?

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                                    Originally posted by VaqueroToro View Post
                                    I have a couple of curiosity questions I hope you guys can answer.

                                    I absolutely LOVED watching the USEF live coverage and especially enjoyed the commentary on the cross country portion. While I don't think it's anything I'd ever have the guts to do, it was fun to live vicariously through Peter Atkins and his helmet cam footage of his and Henny's run!

                                    So my questions are thus (the silly one first): I noticed a portion of the riders in scarlet jackets for the stadium jump -- what does that signify (if anything)? Did they place in the top X in a prior four-star so it's like a bragging rights thing?

                                    Second question: while I understand the roots of the sport and the point of the dressage portion is to show trainability, obedience, etc, and the cross country portion is to show stamina, agility, courage, etc, what is the purpose behind the stadium portion? Is it to show that the animal still has the stamina and agility to jump the day after the cross country leg? Does jumping a stadium course cleanly signify something that jumping cross country obstacles doesn't?
                                    Red coats for the US and Canada mean that the rider has competed on a team for their country.

                                    The FEI has changed the definition of the purpose for dressage and sj. It used to be that dressage was meant to show that a cavalry type mount could be under control for the type of riding that would be the equivalent of parade riding and maneuvers while sj was to show that the horse still had the fitness and willingness to work after a long day of XC. Now the FEI says the purpose of each is to show that the horse is capable in the specialist disciplines as well as in XC. It's a rather major change in the philosophy of eventing.
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                                    • The picture of AN over the first element at the Head of the Lake is just the ultimate in a cool, calm and confident rider. Love it.

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                                      • He rode his whole round like that. What a cool customer.

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                                        • Originally posted by riderboy View Post
                                          The picture of AN over the first element at the Head of the Lake is just the ultimate in a cool, calm and confident rider. Love it.

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                                          I agree! The Sunken Road was so neat, tidy, easy-peasy when he went through... wow.
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