• Welcome to the Chronicle Forums.
    Please complete your profile. The forums and the rest of www.chronofhorse.com has single sign-in, so your log in information for one will automatically work for the other. Disclaimer: The opinions expressed here are the views of the individual and do not necessarily reflect the views and opinions of The Chronicle of the Horse.



Forum rules and no-advertising policy

As a participant on this forum, it is your responsibility to know and follow our rules. Please read this message in its entirety.

Board Rules

1. You’re responsible for what you say.
As outlined in Section 230 of the Communications Decency Act, The Chronicle of the Horse and its affiliates, as well Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd., the developers of vBulletin, are not legally responsible for statements made in the forums.

This is a public forum viewed by a wide spectrum of people, so please be mindful of what you say and who might be reading it—details of personal disputes are likely better handled privately. While posters are legally responsible for their statements, the moderators may in their discretion remove or edit posts that violate these rules. Users have the ability to modify or delete their own messages after posting, but administrators generally will not delete posts, threads or accounts upon request.

Outright inflammatory, vulgar, harassing, malicious or otherwise inappropriate statements and criminal charges unsubstantiated by a reputable news source or legal documentation will not be tolerated and will be dealt with at the discretion of the moderators.

2. Conversations in horse-related forums should be horse-related.
The forums are a wonderful source of information and support for members of the horse community. While it’s understandably tempting to share information or search for input on other topics upon which members might have a similar level of knowledge, members must maintain the focus on horses.

3. Keep conversations productive, on topic and civil.
Discussion and disagreement are inevitable and encouraged; personal insults, diatribes and sniping comments are unproductive and unacceptable. Whether a subject is light-hearted or serious, keep posts focused on the current topic and of general interest to other participants of that thread. Utilize the private message feature or personal email where appropriate to address side topics or personal issues not related to the topic at large.

4. No advertising in the discussion forums.
Posts in the discussion forums directly or indirectly advertising horses, jobs, items or services for sale or wanted will be removed at the discretion of the moderators. Use of the private messaging feature or email addresses obtained through users’ profiles for unsolicited advertising is not permitted.

Company representatives may participate in discussions and answer questions about their products or services, or suggest their products on recent threads if they fulfill the criteria of a query. False "testimonials" provided by company affiliates posing as general consumers are not appropriate, and self-promotion of sales, ad campaigns, etc. through the discussion forums is not allowed.

Paid advertising is available on our classifieds site and through the purchase of banner ads. The tightly monitored Giveaways forum permits free listings of genuinely free horses and items available or wanted (on a limited basis). Items offered for trade are not allowed.

Advertising Policy Specifics
When in doubt of whether something you want to post constitutes advertising, please contact a moderator privately in advance for further clarification. Refer to the following points for general guidelines:

Horses – Only general discussion about the buying, leasing, selling and pricing of horses is permitted. If the post contains, or links to, the type of specific information typically found in a sales or wanted ad, and it’s related to a horse for sale, regardless of who’s selling it, it doesn’t belong in the discussion forums.

Stallions – Board members may ask for suggestions on breeding stallion recommendations. Stallion owners may reply to such queries by suggesting their own stallions, only if their horse fits the specific criteria of the original poster. Excessive promotion of a stallion by its owner or related parties is not permitted and will be addressed at the discretion of the moderators.

Services – Members may use the forums to ask for general recommendations of trainers, barns, shippers, farriers, etc., and other members may answer those requests by suggesting themselves or their company, if their services fulfill the specific criteria of the original post. Members may not solicit other members for business if it is not in response to a direct, genuine query.

Products – While members may ask for general opinions and suggestions on equipment, trailers, trucks, etc., they may not list the specific attributes for which they are in the market, as such posts serve as wanted ads.

Event Announcements – Members may post one notification of an upcoming event that may be of interest to fellow members, if the original poster does not benefit financially from the event. Such threads may not be “bumped” excessively. Premium members may post their own notices in the Event Announcements forum.

Charities/Rescues – Announcements for charitable or fundraising events can only be made for 501(c)(3) tax-exempt organizations. Special exceptions may be made, at the moderators’ discretion and direction, for board-related events or fundraising activities in extraordinary circumstances.

Occasional posts regarding horses available for adoption through IRS-registered horse rescue or placement programs are permitted in the appropriate forums, but these threads may be limited at the discretion of the moderators. Individuals may not advertise or make announcements for horses in need of rescue, placement or adoption unless the horse is available through a recognized rescue or placement agency or government-run entity or the thread fits the criteria for and is located in the Giveaways forum.

5. Do not post copyrighted photographs unless you have purchased that photo and have permission to do so.

6. Respect other members.
As members are often passionate about their beliefs and intentions can easily be misinterpreted in this type of environment, try to explore or resolve the inevitable disagreements that arise in the course of threads calmly and rationally.

If you see a post that you feel violates the rules of the board, please click the “alert” button (exclamation point inside of a triangle) in the bottom left corner of the post, which will alert ONLY the moderators to the post in question. They will then take whatever action, or no action, as deemed appropriate for the situation at their discretion. Do not air grievances regarding other posters or the moderators in the discussion forums.

Please be advised that adding another user to your “Ignore” list via your User Control Panel can be a useful tactic, which blocks posts and private messages by members whose commentary you’d rather avoid reading.

7. We have the right to reproduce statements made in the forums.
The Chronicle of the Horse may copy, quote, link to or otherwise reproduce posts, or portions of posts, in print or online for advertising or editorial purposes, if attributed to their original authors, and by posting in this forum, you hereby grant to The Chronicle of the Horse a perpetual, non-exclusive license under copyright and other rights, to do so.

8. We reserve the right to enforce and amend the rules.
The moderators may delete, edit, move or close any post or thread at any time, or refrain from doing any of the foregoing, in their discretion, and may suspend or revoke a user’s membership privileges at any time to maintain adherence to the rules and the general spirit of the forum. These rules may be amended at any time to address the current needs of the board.

Please see our full Terms of Service and Privacy Policy for more information.

Thanks for being a part of the COTH forums!

(Revised 1/26/16)
See more
See less

Man, I love this mare

  • Filter
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts

  • Man, I love this mare

    I really had ZERO intention of buying a horse last summer, but when you spend every weekend at the track....well....I suppose it's an occupation hazard of working with CANTER, right? (No, I am NOT bringing another one home this year.)

    I posted a thread about the mare that followed me home here shortly after I got her, so you all can review the details if you'd like (Be sure to check out the video because that walk, man...I still marvel at her walk.)

    We brought her home from the track in August and turned her out, and we took a look at her in January. Her stifle was still full of fluid, and while the structures looked good on ultrasound, she was still sore, so we did a round of IRAP. I started riding her regularly in late February or so.

    We had a bit of a rocky beginning, but I finally got the memo from her and put her on Quiessence (which normally would have elicited an eyeroll from me, but has made ALLLLL the difference in Dove. Horses will make fools out of you all the time, won't they?) She has been progressing very nicely and is a joy to ride.

    I had my own SI injected early last week, and then we had our very own snowmaggedon, so Dove had not been ridden for perhaps 10 days--this coming off a fairly regular 5 day a week program--and I expected some excitement today.

    She did not let me down Now, she's a hot horse anyway, which I really love. She was very workmanlike for mounting and at the walk (thank you, Quiessence) but when I asked for the trot...MAN. She was ready to GO. GO GO GO. I just had a TON of horse and she felt great. I got up in two point, threw a cross and let her trot out for about 10 minutes before asking anything of her at all. A less business-like horse would have bucked me off hard, and she did play a bit, but she's a good girl and let me stay up there.

    She's just SUCH a fun horse. Every time I ride I wind up with a huge smile on my face. THIS is why we have horses, isn't it?

  • #2
    Yay! I'm so glad you have connected! This is exactly how I feel every time I ride Mr Java big man I love him even when he is acting like a teenage boy fool!!
    ~Run and Jump!~


    • #3


      • Original Poster

        Originally posted by xcjumper View Post
        Yay! I'm so glad you have connected! This is exactly how I feel every time I ride Mr Java big man I love him even when he is acting like a teenage boy fool!!
        Good lord, me too. I was going through all the tricks in my bag and I'm so grateful I gave the Quiessence a try. The change in her is just amazing--I finally have a horse with a brain in her head, and it's not just under saddle that's she's changed. She seems so much happier in her own skin now.

        Glad to hear Java's doing well, too!! Is he growing yet? We miss him!! (Andrew especially. They were buddies )


        • #5
          Wow, a Danzig mare!

          I checked the old thread you posted but the pictures are no longer available. If possible will you post more?

          I'm glad you're having fun with her. I love good mares. Thanks for posting this update!


          • Original Poster

            Oh, right, the whole webshots things. Sigh. Had to switch everything over to photobucket :P

            Here are her shots from the track, which are terrible: http://s155.photobucket.com/user/sim...?sort=3&page=1

            And here she is right after we picked her up, out with my two year old: http://s155.photobucket.com/user/sim...cb671.jpg.html

            She looks SO different now, and her muscling and outline changed drastically just in the time she had off. Now that she's in work, she's really starting to look wonderful.

            (Oh there are some sort of decent shots of her in the assortment of pictures I took for saddle fit issues, like this one.)

            We are long over due for some new photos and I would love to see some video of her being ridden. I'm working on convincing my husband to come out and aid in both of those projects sometime soon

            She's just such a cool horse and has been so much fun


            • Original Poster

              Another wonderful ride today!

              Switched her from the HS Duo I've had her working in to a basic eggbutt french link. Didn't feel like I needed "more" bit, but I felt like she wanted a little finer communication. I think she did appreciate the new hardware!

              Had a ride full of her really reaching into the contact, showing off a stretchy chewy trot when asked, and the beginnings of a solid, through walk/trot transition. Our canter departs are still very eager (and hilarious!) but after a circle or so, she comes back nicely and is developing a very nice canter coming into the hand.

              She is just so fun, so forward and so HONEST. I love how horses like this totally tattle on you if you're missing something or doing it wrong. As long as *I* ride her well, she'll give it all. If I screw it up, she totally tells And since I'm not working with a trainer, a horse that doesn't put up with crap and makes ME a better rider is sort of a requirement!!

              Hope to get some fresh pics and maybe even video on Sunday. I'd really like to see how she looks under saddle myself!


              • #8
                Is this the mare you posted the video of with the stifle problem in another recent thread? I watched that video and thought man, what a fabulous walk!

                Edited to add, I clicked on the video and post 1 and it is! I'm not surprised you brought her home.
                Last edited by grayarabpony; Apr. 27, 2013, 10:28 AM.


                • #9
                  On an unrelated note, I just have to say really quick, that she is lovely!


                  • Original Poster

                    Originally posted by grayarabpony View Post
                    Is this the mare you posted the video of with the stifle problem in another recent thread? I watched that video and thought man, what a fabulous walk!
                    I KNOW, right? When I took her out of her stall at the track, I looked back to see where her hinds were landing in the walk and I was BLOWN AWAY. She is an excellent example of a horse at the track that needed to be SEEN. I would not have really been interested in her pedigree from afar, and the pictures we were able to get of her just didn't show her well (it is SO HARD to get good shots of horses on the backside. We do the best we can, and are more successful with some than others!!)

                    But when they brought her out of her stall the first time we saw her, I KNEW I was in trouble (not looking for a horse, not looking for a horse), and the trainer practically described my ideal horse--a tough, gritty turf mare--then he was terribly tough to track down about listing details (so we couldn't get her listed) until her last race, when he called me directly and told me to pick her up, knowing that I loved her already.

                    So, in short: This is a CANTER infomercial. If you are in the market CONTACT your CANTER volunteers and talk to them about what you are looking for and ask them for suggestions. Get out to the track to look around for yourself, because it is just SO hard to get good, accurate photos that really show off the horses.

                    And thank you, too, littlemess--as I'm sure you've noticed, I am quite taken with her as well


                    • #11
                      She is lovely...a good walk is everything (Because you know the canter is all that and more!)

                      (and boy, you have GRASS! Moving to Laramie, WY in 2 weeks and grass is just not there!)


                      • Original Poster

                        Originally posted by annikak View Post
                        (and boy, you have GRASS! Moving to Laramie, WY in 2 weeks and grass is just not there!)
                        Not anymore! I think the pic you're talking about (the one with the two horses and all the grass?) was mid August last year right off Dove came off the track. We were boarding here:


                        They have a ton of water on the property and beautiful grass all summer. And it's for sale--it could be yours!

                        Now we're farther north on dry land with pretty much no grass. It's probably a lot like WY


                        • Original Poster

                          Another hilarious and fun ride today. Dove has had about a week off due to weather and some dental work. Didn't really intend to ride today, but the brand inspector was late (and then canceled...that's a whole 'nother thread. Grrr.)

                          Now, Dove is pretty fit. She's been ridden about 5 days a week since February ish. And, hey, as a TB she gets fit pretty fast. She lives on about 7 acres with her friends (my two other mares) and has plenty of play time, so can certainly get out and move. But I brought her up to the barn and she was WIRED. Tacked her up and took her out because she was practically begging for some work.

                          The walk was eager but still a walk. Asked for trot, got some minor airs above ground (nothing dirty, just bouncy!) and then a lovely canter. She just wanted to canter, so we did that for awhile until she was ready to trot. Had a really excellent ride with some beautiful work.

                          She's just so funny. I love how she just WANTS to work and is so honest even when she's just bursting and ready to go.

                          (Still need new pics of her, and I would LOVE video on her being ridden. Maybe this weekend!)


                          • #14
                            Oh I am gonna hop RIGHT on that property! (don't I wish???)

                            Hey- do you mind when I get there if I check in with you? I am kind of freaked out by the changes that horsekeeping brings out west. Also...if I get lucky, I will be looking for another OTTB...maybe...maybe...maybe....


                            • #15
                              Oh boy she's lovely!! I've pretty much convinced myself that my next horse will be from Canter; CO obvs

                              How did I not know about that barn?! It's gorgeous. I just recently had to move barns since mine shut down. I'm having a heck of a time finding anything with decent turnout. I ended up at a place in Severance which is nice but still not nearly enough turnout for my liking.
                              Fils Du Reverdy (Revy)- 1993 Selle Francais Gelding
                              My equine soulmate
                              Mischief Managed (Tully)- JC Priceless Jewel 2002 TB Gelding


                              • Original Poster

                                Originally posted by annikak View Post
                                Oh I am gonna hop RIGHT on that property! (don't I wish???)

                                Hey- do you mind when I get there if I check in with you? I am kind of freaked out by the changes that horsekeeping brings out west. Also...if I get lucky, I will be looking for another OTTB...maybe...maybe...maybe....
                                Of course you can check in with me I am happy to answer whatever questions I can, provide any hand holding you might require, and hook you up with an OTTB when you're ready. We get a really nice variety at Arapahoe Park--even easy-peasy ready to go sorts, that need nothing or nearly nothing in regard to retraining, other than learning your desired discipline.

                                Originally posted by dani0303 View Post
                                Oh boy she's lovely!! I've pretty much convinced myself that my next horse will be from Canter; CO obvs
                                AS WELL IT SHOULD BE Are you friends with us on facebook?

                                How did I not know about that barn?! It's gorgeous. I just recently had to move barns since mine shut down. I'm having a heck of a time finding anything with decent turnout. I ended up at a place in Severance which is nice but still not nearly enough turnout for my liking.
                                I don't know how far north you want to come, but that barn is still taking boarders (AFAIK) and where I am now could be another option for you, although it's even farther north and we *might* be full. Both places have their own pros and cons--shoot me a PM if you're interested in either.


                                • #17
                                  Simke, when I get moved up there I will gladly come take photos and video whenever you need. Just give me a call! I understand the whole thing of convincing the husband

                                  I am so glad she ended up with you! She's such a pretty mare who needed a good, happy home. Thank you for keeping everyone updated on how things are going!
                                  "IT'S NOT THE MOUNTAIN WE CONQUER, BUT OURSELVES." SIR EDMUND HILLARYMember of the "Someone Special To Me Serves In The Military" Clique


                                  • #18
                                    Count me in, as one wanting to see new photos!


                                    • Original Poster

                                      Attempt to get some photos and video today was thwarted by a huge windstorm that hit as we arrived at the barn. Would have been terrible for all to try to ride, so we just went home. Sad day. Shows us for hanging out at the house to watch the Preakness instead of just TiVoing it

                                      I finally landed a new gig, so rides have moved to the evening after work which has just thrown off poor Dove. She is just so worried when I bring her up into the barn. So sure we're going to go race! She's got such a good work ethic that she's still fairly reasonable under saddle (hot and sensitive, but reasonable.) Gradual progress is being made, but it's obvious she's a horse where routine is VERY, VERY important!

                                      I have been worried about her hindgut--she is rather prone to loose, sour-smelling manure--so I'm trying KER's RiteTrac for her. (It's the Equishire + a stomach buffer.) Will be interesting to see how she responds.

                                      Cross your fingers for photos and video tomorrow!! I'm also *really* looking forward to SEEING what she looks like under saddle. No mirrors, no trainer...I think we're moving in the right direction, but having some confirmation and feedback will be really nice.


                                      • #20
                                        I have been using Quiessence and EquiShure on my mare for a couple of years. I find that the Quiessence helps her focus and the EquiShure has kept things moving through her gut, which has low gut motility.

                                        The KER products are very good. I hope that it works for your girl!
                                        When in Doubt, let your horse do the Thinking!