• Welcome to the Chronicle Forums.
    Please complete your profile. The forums and the rest of www.chronofhorse.com has single sign-in, so your log in information for one will automatically work for the other. Disclaimer: The opinions expressed here are the views of the individual and do not necessarily reflect the views and opinions of The Chronicle of the Horse.

Announcement

Collapse

Forum rules and no-advertising policy

As a participant on this forum, it is your responsibility to know and follow our rules. Please read this message in its entirety.

Board Rules

1. You’re responsible for what you say.
As outlined in Section 230 of the Communications Decency Act, The Chronicle of the Horse and its affiliates, as well Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd., the developers of vBulletin, are not legally responsible for statements made in the forums.

This is a public forum viewed by a wide spectrum of people, so please be mindful of what you say and who might be reading it—details of personal disputes are likely better handled privately. While posters are legally responsible for their statements, the moderators may in their discretion remove or edit posts that violate these rules. Users have the ability to modify or delete their own messages after posting, but administrators generally will not delete posts, threads or accounts upon request.

Outright inflammatory, vulgar, harassing, malicious or otherwise inappropriate statements and criminal charges unsubstantiated by a reputable news source or legal documentation will not be tolerated and will be dealt with at the discretion of the moderators.

2. Conversations in horse-related forums should be horse-related.
The forums are a wonderful source of information and support for members of the horse community. While it’s understandably tempting to share information or search for input on other topics upon which members might have a similar level of knowledge, members must maintain the focus on horses.

3. Keep conversations productive, on topic and civil.
Discussion and disagreement are inevitable and encouraged; personal insults, diatribes and sniping comments are unproductive and unacceptable. Whether a subject is light-hearted or serious, keep posts focused on the current topic and of general interest to other participants of that thread. Utilize the private message feature or personal email where appropriate to address side topics or personal issues not related to the topic at large.

4. No advertising in the discussion forums.
Posts in the discussion forums directly or indirectly advertising horses, jobs, items or services for sale or wanted will be removed at the discretion of the moderators. Use of the private messaging feature or email addresses obtained through users’ profiles for unsolicited advertising is not permitted.

Company representatives may participate in discussions and answer questions about their products or services, or suggest their products on recent threads if they fulfill the criteria of a query. False "testimonials" provided by company affiliates posing as general consumers are not appropriate, and self-promotion of sales, ad campaigns, etc. through the discussion forums is not allowed.

Paid advertising is available on our classifieds site and through the purchase of banner ads. The tightly monitored Giveaways forum permits free listings of genuinely free horses and items available or wanted (on a limited basis). Items offered for trade are not allowed.

Advertising Policy Specifics
When in doubt of whether something you want to post constitutes advertising, please contact a moderator privately in advance for further clarification. Refer to the following points for general guidelines:

Horses – Only general discussion about the buying, leasing, selling and pricing of horses is permitted. If the post contains, or links to, the type of specific information typically found in a sales or wanted ad, and it’s related to a horse for sale, regardless of who’s selling it, it doesn’t belong in the discussion forums.

Stallions – Board members may ask for suggestions on breeding stallion recommendations. Stallion owners may reply to such queries by suggesting their own stallions, only if their horse fits the specific criteria of the original poster. Excessive promotion of a stallion by its owner or related parties is not permitted and will be addressed at the discretion of the moderators.

Services – Members may use the forums to ask for general recommendations of trainers, barns, shippers, farriers, etc., and other members may answer those requests by suggesting themselves or their company, if their services fulfill the specific criteria of the original post. Members may not solicit other members for business if it is not in response to a direct, genuine query.

Products – While members may ask for general opinions and suggestions on equipment, trailers, trucks, etc., they may not list the specific attributes for which they are in the market, as such posts serve as wanted ads.

Event Announcements – Members may post one notification of an upcoming event that may be of interest to fellow members, if the original poster does not benefit financially from the event. Such threads may not be “bumped” excessively. Premium members may post their own notices in the Event Announcements forum.

Charities/Rescues – Announcements for charitable or fundraising events can only be made for 501(c)(3) tax-exempt organizations. Special exceptions may be made, at the moderators’ discretion and direction, for board-related events or fundraising activities in extraordinary circumstances.

Occasional posts regarding horses available for adoption through IRS-registered horse rescue or placement programs are permitted in the appropriate forums, but these threads may be limited at the discretion of the moderators. Individuals may not advertise or make announcements for horses in need of rescue, placement or adoption unless the horse is available through a recognized rescue or placement agency or government-run entity or the thread fits the criteria for and is located in the Giveaways forum.

5. Do not post copyrighted photographs unless you have purchased that photo and have permission to do so.

6. Respect other members.
As members are often passionate about their beliefs and intentions can easily be misinterpreted in this type of environment, try to explore or resolve the inevitable disagreements that arise in the course of threads calmly and rationally.

If you see a post that you feel violates the rules of the board, please click the “alert” button (exclamation point inside of a triangle) in the bottom left corner of the post, which will alert ONLY the moderators to the post in question. They will then take whatever action, or no action, as deemed appropriate for the situation at their discretion. Do not air grievances regarding other posters or the moderators in the discussion forums.

Please be advised that adding another user to your “Ignore” list via your User Control Panel can be a useful tactic, which blocks posts and private messages by members whose commentary you’d rather avoid reading.

7. We have the right to reproduce statements made in the forums.
The Chronicle of the Horse may copy, quote, link to or otherwise reproduce posts, or portions of posts, in print or online for advertising or editorial purposes, if attributed to their original authors, and by posting in this forum, you hereby grant to The Chronicle of the Horse a perpetual, non-exclusive license under copyright and other rights, to do so.

8. We reserve the right to enforce and amend the rules.
The moderators may delete, edit, move or close any post or thread at any time, or refrain from doing any of the foregoing, in their discretion, and may suspend or revoke a user’s membership privileges at any time to maintain adherence to the rules and the general spirit of the forum. These rules may be amended at any time to address the current needs of the board.

Please see our full Terms of Service and Privacy Policy for more information.

Thanks for being a part of the COTH forums!

(Revised 1/26/16)
See more
See less

TB bloodlines/confo - Update-I bought a horse!

Collapse
X
  • Filter
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts

  • TB bloodlines/confo - Update-I bought a horse!

    So I'm still searching for a TB prospect and I came across a couple from a local classified. Sorry to bug you guys! I swear I wont make any more threads about this ha ha

    I'm looking for a lower level packer (but if theres potential to go more than training, that would be good too!), friend to love forever.

    I FB'd the owner of this guy, and no response. I also called and got no response either. There has been a breakout of EHV-1 in her area so maybe thats why? I am a bit concerned about his legs after being jumped in snow! But maybe I'm paranoid...
    https://www.ksl.com/index.php?nid=21...earch&ad_cid=1

    Called on this bay gelding, got no answer but he looks cute from what I can see



    I called on thischestnut and going to look at him on Wednesday. She spoke highly of him and he seems exactly what I'm looking for. his pedigree seems nice too.
    (plus chestnut is my favorite color.. I'm rooting for this guy!)

    As always, your help and input in appreciated!
    Last edited by KateMcCall; Mar. 19, 2013, 02:13 PM.
    Eventers of the West
    A Facebook group I created for Eventers in the West Region of the U.S.
    Remy - My OTTB Gelding! Love him to pieces!

  • #2
    The chestnut is 6 not 5 as stated in the ad. I generally take note when sellers get the basic information wrong.

    I rather like the first horse. Mostly because the rider in the video looks sympathetic and tackful and he looks like he hasn't been screwed up yet. Major plus in my book...

    Comment


    • #3
      The first bay appears cute and at least they show he's ridable and fairly willing. Jumping in the snow doesn't bother me, but I would want to know how OFTEN they've been jumping him. He's just rising four.

      There is just not enough of the second bay to say anything intelligent about him.

      The pictures of the chestnut are terrible and the pedigree has very little that excites me. That's an awful lot of Mr Prospector and Storm Cat is known for a poor temperament and not known for throwing sport horses.

      Comment


      • #4
        The first horse seems willing and sensible. I wouldn't worry at all about jumping in the snow -- there's practically no snow at all. The footing in the video doesn't really show how he moves so it's hard to evaluate him.

        The other two? The pics are so bad you can't tell anything.
        Equine Ink - My soapbox for equestrian writings & reviews.
        EquestrianHow2 - Operating instructions for your horse.

        Comment

        • Original Poster

          #5
          I'll get better pics of the chestnut when I look at him, as for the first bay the owner finally responded and I'll probably talk to her about looking at him next week when she gets back from Texas.
          Eventers of the West
          A Facebook group I created for Eventers in the West Region of the U.S.
          Remy - My OTTB Gelding! Love him to pieces!

          Comment


          • #6
            I agree with subk. I like the first one best.

            Comment


            • #7
              I like the 1st one best too. I used to ride at a place with no indoor and we jumped alot on snow. In fact we kept doing it after the indoor was built. It's not a bad footing if its packed evenly.
              F O.B
              Resident racing historian ~~~ Re-riders Clique
              Founder of the Mighty Thoroughbred Clique

              Comment

              • Original Poster

                #8
                So I got back from seeing horse #3 today (chestnut) he is a sweet, cute boy. I really liked him. Taking him out on Trial on Friday. His pics in the ad did NOT do him justice at all. he had a GREAT walk, very cute trot (could use a bit of work) and a gorgeous, rocking horse canter. he is narrow than I'm used to but I got comfortable on him really quickly. I'll post another update and pics after he's come to my barn
                Eventers of the West
                A Facebook group I created for Eventers in the West Region of the U.S.
                Remy - My OTTB Gelding! Love him to pieces!

                Comment


                • #9
                  Great! The chestnut looks like a good boy

                  Did you find out what he's been doing since his last race? He last ran 6/4/10. Also, in case you didn't know what one of the pics is, its his breeders cup nomination papers. Its kind of neat, but I guess not terribly uncommon, some one obviously had high hopes for him as a race horse

                  Here he is on equibase, if you pay for an account you can watch his past races if you are interested. http://www.equibase.com/profiles/Res...262&registry=T
                  Unrepentant carb eater

                  Comment

                  • Original Poster

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Judysmom View Post
                    Great! The chestnut looks like a good boy

                    Did you find out what he's been doing since his last race? He last ran 6/4/10. Also, in case you didn't know what one of the pics is, its his breeders cup nomination papers. Its kind of neat, but I guess not terribly uncommon, some one obviously had high hopes for him as a race horse

                    Here he is on equibase, if you pay for an account you can watch his past races if you are interested. http://www.equibase.com/profiles/Res...53262®istry=T
                    He is super, super sweet! I love him already! As far as I know he's just been ponied around on for the last few years. His owner is a western rider but doesn't compete so he's just been ridden around in the arena w/t/c and I think some trail rides.

                    Also thanks for letting me know that, I just assumed it was something to do with his registration! I honestly know nothing about racing :/
                    Eventers of the West
                    A Facebook group I created for Eventers in the West Region of the U.S.
                    Remy - My OTTB Gelding! Love him to pieces!

                    Comment


                    • #11
                      5 starts, lightly raced! Probably pretty darn sound. As far as Storm Cat breeding goes, they can be hot and tempermental, however if you know how to get along with them and keep your cool, they will give you a lot! Where did you get this one Kate since I noticed he ran in CA?

                      Comment

                      • Original Poster

                        #12
                        He was definitely not hot. in fact he was lazier than my fat QH that I teach 5 year old kids on! but we will have to see when we get him in his new surroundings. He was honestly really willing. She had him in this crazy harsh twisted gag bit, and he did not need it - he was super soft in the mouth.
                        I found him in Provo, UT (south of SLC). She said he was given to her by her dad, thats all I know. I'll have to ask her when I pick him up tomorrow

                        Pic I got of him yesterday http://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphoto...99013704_n.jpg
                        Eventers of the West
                        A Facebook group I created for Eventers in the West Region of the U.S.
                        Remy - My OTTB Gelding! Love him to pieces!

                        Comment


                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Simkie View Post

                          That's an awful lot of Mr Prospector and Storm Cat is known for a poor temperament and not known for throwing sport horses.
                          Sorry, but I am bit of a stickler for correct use of terminology. A mare “throws” good foals. A stallion “gets” good foals. In this case, “Storm Cat is not know for getting sport horses”
                          I am not one for throwing a horse under the bus for the sins of their ancestors especially not a direct son or daughter of. Having bought a few yearlings by Storm Cat in his early days at stud when my clients could still afford them I think his reputation for passing on mind issues is a bit over inflated. But they were either very good on the track or not worth a penny. Yes, some, maybe a lot had “mind” issues but just as many had soundness issues. But he did command a stud fee of $500,000 for a number of years. I maybe wrong but I would guess only a handful if that ever fell into the hands of sport horse owners. There was always a strong demand for modernly priced winners or unraced sons to go to stud somewhere in the world. And his daughters by and large were also in demand for broodmares to this day. I would be very interested to know how many were tried as sport horses. Perhaps Vineryridge would have an idea. I can think of none of any merit that were Steeplechase horses. If any ran over jumps at all.
                          But I will back track. This is horse is by Tale of the Cat who I also know but never worked with any of his get. But have been told by the people that work with him at the farm that he is a real SOB. So in this case the family maybe a bit of a concern. At least on the top side. He sold for $6,700 as a yearling and Tale of The Cat’s fee was around $40,000 if not more at the time so he must have had “issues”. But I doubt his mind as a weanling would have kept him from selling for proper money. This is a link to his sales catalogue page; http://apps.keeneland.com/sales/Nov07/pdfs/4824.pdf
                          Mr. Prospector’s last crop were foals of 2000. For the same reason as Storm Cat I doubt many fell into the hands of sport horse owners but probably far more then Storm Cat. I have worked with a few over the years, race and re-school and a number of his get from sons of. Have never found them to be difficult. I can understand the knock on the direct get of Storm Cat but not Mr. P.
                          The picture of this guy would not open for me. When it’s all said and done you are buying the horse in front of you not his pedigree. What he sold for and what he did on the race track is meaningless at this time.
                          Of course, as always this is all just my opinion. To each their own

                          Comment

                          • Original Poster

                            #14
                            Seller decided to back out on the sale.
                            The Search continues........
                            Eventers of the West
                            A Facebook group I created for Eventers in the West Region of the U.S.
                            Remy - My OTTB Gelding! Love him to pieces!

                            Comment


                            • #15
                              CANTER Colorado has some cute horses listed right now. I like the first mare, Nicole, a lot.

                              Comment

                              • Original Poster

                                #16
                                I looked at Bay #1 earlier. Some of you may remember I am recovering from a back injury.
                                After looking at him he was just wayy to young and too fresh for me. He bucked a few times and was really, hot. My trainer said Absolutely not.
                                He was really nice and if I didn't have a healing back, he is exactly what I need.
                                He had a gorgeous trot and moved really nice in general... I hope some eventer will come snatch him up!

                                My farrier found a horse that he thought might be what I need - He's an 8 year old Chestnut TB, but he is a TANK, I thought he was a Warmblood. He is really cool and had the cutest personality ever. He used to be a dressage horse, but someone trimmed his feet too short and lamed him. My farrier has been trying to slowly fix his feet and he has been out of work for 6 months. If I xrayed him and his feet were normal, and it was just a matter of hooves would it be worth it? What do you guys think? Heres the only pic I could get of him because he wouldn't get out of my face lol

                                http://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphoto...36339414_n.jpg
                                Eventers of the West
                                A Facebook group I created for Eventers in the West Region of the U.S.
                                Remy - My OTTB Gelding! Love him to pieces!

                                Comment


                                • #17
                                  I find it hard to believe that a horse who was trimmed too short takes 6 months to heal. This has happened to me 3 times. Once wasn't too bad. Horse was off for a couple of weeks. The other 2 times were very serious. Both horses were in a stall for 6 weeks with various packing, soaking, and softride boots. Vet was very concerned with founder given the amount of pain they were in. Farrier was fired, hoof grew out, life is good
                                  "Everyone will start to cheer, when you put on your sailin shoes"-Lowell George

                                  Comment


                                  • #18
                                    From that photo, he looks really upright in the rear end.

                                    Comment


                                    • #19
                                      Straight hind leg, and dropped back (not swayed, but he isn't using his abdominal muscles to hold his ribcage and back up), are a recipe for stifle and hock problems.
                                      FAb temperament, though, is valuable. If there was a way to take him, put him back to work, and send him home if it didn't work out, I might try it if he was safe and fun.

                                      Comment

                                      • Original Poster

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by Fillabeana View Post
                                        Straight hind leg, and dropped back (not swayed, but he isn't using his abdominal muscles to hold his ribcage and back up), are a recipe for stifle and hock problems.
                                        FAb temperament, though, is valuable. If there was a way to take him, put him back to work, and send him home if it didn't work out, I might try it if he was safe and fun.
                                        I'm wondering if maybe they would consider doing a lease. If he could stay sound and could jump around a little he would be fine. I just need a horse to get me back into riding again.
                                        Eventers of the West
                                        A Facebook group I created for Eventers in the West Region of the U.S.
                                        Remy - My OTTB Gelding! Love him to pieces!

                                        Comment

                                        Working...
                                        X