• Welcome to the Chronicle Forums.
    Please complete your profile. The forums and the rest of www.chronofhorse.com has single sign-in, so your log in information for one will automatically work for the other. Disclaimer: The opinions expressed here are the views of the individual and do not necessarily reflect the views and opinions of The Chronicle of the Horse.

Announcement

Collapse

Forum rules and no-advertising policy

As a participant on this forum, it is your responsibility to know and follow our rules. Please read this message in its entirety.

Board Rules

1. You’re responsible for what you say.
As outlined in Section 230 of the Communications Decency Act, The Chronicle of the Horse and its affiliates, as well Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd., the developers of vBulletin, are not legally responsible for statements made in the forums.

This is a public forum viewed by a wide spectrum of people, so please be mindful of what you say and who might be reading it—details of personal disputes are likely better handled privately. While posters are legally responsible for their statements, the moderators may in their discretion remove or edit posts that violate these rules. Users have the ability to modify or delete their own messages after posting, but administrators generally will not delete posts, threads or accounts upon request.

Outright inflammatory, vulgar, harassing, malicious or otherwise inappropriate statements and criminal charges unsubstantiated by a reputable news source or legal documentation will not be tolerated and will be dealt with at the discretion of the moderators.

2. Conversations in horse-related forums should be horse-related.
The forums are a wonderful source of information and support for members of the horse community. While it’s understandably tempting to share information or search for input on other topics upon which members might have a similar level of knowledge, members must maintain the focus on horses.

3. Keep conversations productive, on topic and civil.
Discussion and disagreement are inevitable and encouraged; personal insults, diatribes and sniping comments are unproductive and unacceptable. Whether a subject is light-hearted or serious, keep posts focused on the current topic and of general interest to other participants of that thread. Utilize the private message feature or personal email where appropriate to address side topics or personal issues not related to the topic at large.

4. No advertising in the discussion forums.
Posts in the discussion forums directly or indirectly advertising horses, jobs, items or services for sale or wanted will be removed at the discretion of the moderators. Use of the private messaging feature or email addresses obtained through users’ profiles for unsolicited advertising is not permitted.

Company representatives may participate in discussions and answer questions about their products or services, or suggest their products on recent threads if they fulfill the criteria of a query. False "testimonials" provided by company affiliates posing as general consumers are not appropriate, and self-promotion of sales, ad campaigns, etc. through the discussion forums is not allowed.

Paid advertising is available on our classifieds site and through the purchase of banner ads. The tightly monitored Giveaways forum permits free listings of genuinely free horses and items available or wanted (on a limited basis). Items offered for trade are not allowed.

Advertising Policy Specifics
When in doubt of whether something you want to post constitutes advertising, please contact a moderator privately in advance for further clarification. Refer to the following points for general guidelines:

Horses – Only general discussion about the buying, leasing, selling and pricing of horses is permitted. If the post contains, or links to, the type of specific information typically found in a sales or wanted ad, and it’s related to a horse for sale, regardless of who’s selling it, it doesn’t belong in the discussion forums.

Stallions – Board members may ask for suggestions on breeding stallion recommendations. Stallion owners may reply to such queries by suggesting their own stallions, only if their horse fits the specific criteria of the original poster. Excessive promotion of a stallion by its owner or related parties is not permitted and will be addressed at the discretion of the moderators.

Services – Members may use the forums to ask for general recommendations of trainers, barns, shippers, farriers, etc., and other members may answer those requests by suggesting themselves or their company, if their services fulfill the specific criteria of the original post. Members may not solicit other members for business if it is not in response to a direct, genuine query.

Products – While members may ask for general opinions and suggestions on equipment, trailers, trucks, etc., they may not list the specific attributes for which they are in the market, as such posts serve as wanted ads.

Event Announcements – Members may post one notification of an upcoming event that may be of interest to fellow members, if the original poster does not benefit financially from the event. Such threads may not be “bumped” excessively. Premium members may post their own notices in the Event Announcements forum.

Charities/Rescues – Announcements for charitable or fundraising events can only be made for 501(c)(3) tax-exempt organizations. Special exceptions may be made, at the moderators’ discretion and direction, for board-related events or fundraising activities in extraordinary circumstances.

Occasional posts regarding horses available for adoption through IRS-registered horse rescue or placement programs are permitted in the appropriate forums, but these threads may be limited at the discretion of the moderators. Individuals may not advertise or make announcements for horses in need of rescue, placement or adoption unless the horse is available through a recognized rescue or placement agency or government-run entity or the thread fits the criteria for and is located in the Giveaways forum.

5. Do not post copyrighted photographs unless you have purchased that photo and have permission to do so.

6. Respect other members.
As members are often passionate about their beliefs and intentions can easily be misinterpreted in this type of environment, try to explore or resolve the inevitable disagreements that arise in the course of threads calmly and rationally.

If you see a post that you feel violates the rules of the board, please click the “alert” button (exclamation point inside of a triangle) in the bottom left corner of the post, which will alert ONLY the moderators to the post in question. They will then take whatever action, or no action, as deemed appropriate for the situation at their discretion. Do not air grievances regarding other posters or the moderators in the discussion forums.

Please be advised that adding another user to your “Ignore” list via your User Control Panel can be a useful tactic, which blocks posts and private messages by members whose commentary you’d rather avoid reading.

7. We have the right to reproduce statements made in the forums.
The Chronicle of the Horse may copy, quote, link to or otherwise reproduce posts, or portions of posts, in print or online for advertising or editorial purposes, if attributed to their original authors, and by posting in this forum, you hereby grant to The Chronicle of the Horse a perpetual, non-exclusive license under copyright and other rights, to do so.

8. We reserve the right to enforce and amend the rules.
The moderators may delete, edit, move or close any post or thread at any time, or refrain from doing any of the foregoing, in their discretion, and may suspend or revoke a user’s membership privileges at any time to maintain adherence to the rules and the general spirit of the forum. These rules may be amended at any time to address the current needs of the board.

Please see our full Terms of Service and Privacy Policy for more information.

Thanks for being a part of the COTH forums!

(Revised 1/26/16)
See more
See less

Paintball Gun, Pepper spray boobie trap?

Collapse
X
  • Filter
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts

  • Paintball Gun, Pepper spray boobie trap?

    I am getting so tired of other peoples dogs peeing on our hay and equipment at horse shows that I am planning a counter attack.

    I think that marking them with a paintball gun might be the best as it will show which dogs/owners are at fault.

    Yesterday DD took one home by his collar who had just peed all over her generator. And believe me this owner knows the leash rule!

    She also got growled at by a bully that she chased off our hay. He was giving it a good soaking. At $3 a bale, I might let it go, but at $10 I am not.

    To be completely horse related I ask, would you feed dog peed hay to your horse? Should I ask the dog owner to replace that bale?

  • #2
    Well, I'd rinse it off and feed it...

    but if this was a continuing problem, I'd have a real CTJ meeting with the dog owners. Oh wait, no I wouldn't because I'd be delivering the little beasties by the scruff of their little necks up to the show office for them to deal with.

    There is no excuse for letting your dog run loose.

    None.

    Comment


    • #3
      Go to a hunting supply store

      Get a really nasty smelling bottle of deer urine or something else smelly.

      Load your squirt gun.

      Wait.

      Comment


      • #4
        Originally posted by 2ndyrgal View Post
        Get a really nasty smelling bottle of deer urine or something else smelly.

        Load your squirt gun.

        Wait.
        I like this one unfortunately paintball guns HURT, so I wouldn't do that to a dog - ditto pepper spray. I would haul the dog to the show office though!
        www.felixfjord.blogspot.com

        Comment


        • #5
          Dogs are Gross

          Ugh...what can I say, dogs are gross and have terrible bathroom etiquette. (I have two myself, and I still think this, so not a dog hater.)

          That said, even good dog owners who keep their dogs on short leashes at horse trials may find it difficult to stop their dog from having a quick pee. Then you have the bad dog owners, who seem to think their darling untrained dogs should have free reign over the stabling area, thinking it is cute when they jump on people and run by horses at mach 10 speed. But I digress....

          Due to bad doggie bathroom manners, escapee horses and bad weather, I keep my hay in waterproof hay bags. I only have one horse, so this is feasible for me, but could you put a tarp over your hay? I would NOT feed my horse hay that has been peed on, but good luck getting the dog owner to pay for replacing it.

          Comment

          • Original Poster

            #6
            Tux, we have 8 horses at this competition. And all the junk that came with them.

            I cannot tarp the generator, lawn chairs, side tables, tack trunks, etc etc. In our camp and I shouldn't have to! One of these loose dogs even peed on one of our dogs' crate.

            One dog owner is even laughing about her dog bringing her a bag of horse treats from someone else's barn! gurrrrr

            I may look into something stinky to spray, but paint would tell everyone that "you are" a bad dog owner. Do they make a stinky paintball?

            I like dogs, we bring 2 Corgis with us. They have a nice pen to hang out in when we are busy with the horses. We take them to the manure pile to do their duty. They are always on leashes, or in the pen, or in the trailer.

            It is common courtesy people !

            Comment


            • #7
              Originally posted by tuppysmom View Post
              It is common courtesy people !
              ^Yeah, not everyone has this, though. You shouldn't have to protect all of your stuff from roving dogs. If I bring my dogs they are either on a leash at my side or they are confined to my horse's stall or a tack stall. Sadly, the lack of common courtesy in a few bad dog owners can really spoil an event.

              Maybe try spray painting people's dogs? Supersoaking them? Posting photos of their dogs on Facebook with a description of the offense? I really don't know the answer. It is amazing how some people can be so oblivious to their dog's bad behavior. I had an ex trainer like this. Boggled my mind.
              Last edited by TuxWink; Mar. 2, 2013, 04:30 PM. Reason: typo

              Comment


              • #8
                You might try hosing the bale down - a bit of dog urine residue is not going to harm your horse (most hay fields have plenty of critters living & defecating etc in them - including any number of dogs & coyotes) BUT I suspect some horses would consider the hay unpalatable. Hay that is still tightly baled should only have a bit of urine on the edges.

                Have you looked into portable fencing? for ideas

                I agree this should not be your responsibility, but if show office is doing nothing to enforce the rules, & you want to show those venues ...

                Comment


                • #9
                  After I was labled the bad guy because my dog attacked another dog at an event I don't take a dog any more. Now, mind you my dog was TIED in MY trailer dressing room and this loose dog jumped in and proceeded to help himself to her food. Of course I was wrong because I didn't have the door closed It's always something! My SO was bit just walking by someones stall where her dog was tied. Thankfully neither of these 2 dog owners attend our area events any more, but there are still plenty of others who aren't responsible.

                  Just like rug rats, "yours" are always smarter, cuter, better behaved, etc., etc., than anyone elses
                  "Everyone will start to cheer, when you put on your sailin shoes"-Lowell George

                  Comment


                  • #10
                    Super soaker full of hot sauce and paintball liquid in a neon color.
                    www.destinationconsensusequus.com
                    chaque pas est fait ensemble

                    Comment


                    • #11
                      Paint ball guns may hurt, but a loud yelp and a dog tucking tail and RUNNING for "home" with a huge neon green splotch on its side will work wonders.

                      For dog owner's notification purposes (and of course, amusement) you should get a cheap can of spray marking paint and "mark" your territory at the show, and have a sign saying "Dogs seen crossing this line will be marked".
                      runnjump86 Instagram

                      Horse Junkies United guest blogger

                      Comment


                      • #12
                        It is not lack of "etiquette" on the dog's part--they don't have the same hangups we do about bodily functions. It is a lack of consideration on the part of the dog's owner. I would take dog and bale to the owner if I knew who it was and absolutely ask them to pay me for the spoiled hay.

                        You could try a scat mat--anything that steps on it will get one almighty static shock, enough to send them yelping without any actual harm.
                        Click here before you buy.

                        Comment


                        • #13
                          I put my hay bales in contractor bags. I only bring one or two horses, so might not be as workable for 8. Best thing is the bags really last, I can re-use them at the next show.
                          Unrepentant carb eater

                          Comment


                          • #14
                            Originally posted by deltawave View Post
                            It is not lack of "etiquette" on the dog's part--they don't have the same hangups we do about bodily functions. It is a lack of consideration on the part of the dog's owner.
                            Oh, I know it is all inconsiderate owners - I was just anthropomorphizing a bit regarding the dogs and their lack of "etiquette." I still stand by my statement that dogs are a "bit" gross, though. I mean, my dog eats his own vomit and thinks cat poop is delicious.

                            Comment


                            • #15
                              OP, instead of taking the dog "home" to the owners, what would happen if you took the dog to the secretary's stand and reported it as loose?

                              Or, randomly tied the dog somewhere (with a bowl of water of course) or placed it in an unoccupied stall with a sign that said "loose doggie jail". Make the owner come look for the dog instead. This is assuming the dog is friendly.

                              I'm sorry I must be in a cynical mood today. I guess I've been really fortunate, DD's events have always had lots of dogs at them but they've always been leashed or really well behaved.

                              Comment


                              • #16
                                Too bad you cannot paint ball the owner!!! Somehow mark them.

                                Comment


                                • #17
                                  Food coloring in squirt gun?
                                  Of course you run the risk of the owner not believing your side of the story and getting really pissed that someone messed with Fluffy.
                                  "When life gives you scurvy, make lemonade."

                                  Comment


                                  • #18
                                    I like the deer urine idea. Or anything that stinks but is harmless. I have to admit, I am not a dog fan.

                                    Comment


                                    • #19
                                      I can't imagine a predator being anything but flat-out fascinated by and drawn to the scent of deer urine. And that they would want to "mark" such a fun smell for their own. And what benefit is added by spraying MORE urine in the area?
                                      Click here before you buy.

                                      Comment


                                      • #20
                                        What about hair dye? They make some temporary stuff in aerosol cans or the semi-permanent stuff in fun colours... Or could you find out what stuff they use for the Colour Run and get some of that, it gets thrown on people so I can't imagine it being harmful if Fido licks at it when it's wet, according to their web page it IS edible, but surprisingly high in calories Perhaps I should adopt this plan for my neighbours dogs who like to jump the fence and poop in our yard, hhhmmmm....
                                        Freedom is the ability not to care what the other person thinks...

                                        Got air?! Member of the Asthmatic Riders Clique

                                        Comment

                                        Working...
                                        X