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  • Does size need permission?

    We were over at A clinic with our QH/Arab who measures pony. He is moving along quite t well and I mention we had hopes to get to Rolex one day, to a bystander watching, when she mentioned that they dont let ponies go above prelim without special permission from USEF and FEI. I know of an age requirement, but height?

    I tried to find something, but cant ? Anyone know?

    Thx! He is a very cool pony! Need to find this stuff out!!
    Last edited by gold2012; Jan. 17, 2013, 05:18 PM.
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    You don't say how tall he is?
    "Good young horses are bred, but good advanced horses are trained" Sam Griffiths

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      14.2
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        Ok- this will be very vauge, but I think I remember reading somewhere that one used to have to get permission to compete a pony at the FEI levels, but that is no longer the case.

        Could not tell you where or when I read it, probably in an article about a pony competing in the upper levels... Shrug!




        Originally posted by gold2012 View Post
        14.2

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          USEF has no height restrictions. So no problems with Intermediate and Advanced.

          I'm not an expert on the FEI rules, but Theodore O'Connor competed at Rolex. I am prettty sure he had a USEF "pony card". So i do not think there is an FEI problem on height.
          Janet

          chief feeder and mucker for Music, Spy, Belle and Tiara. Someone else is now feeding and mucking for Chief and Brain (both foxhunting now).

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            Thx guys. I dont think FEI has anything, in Europe its much more common to compete ponies at the bigger fences. Will cross that bridge if it comes with huge smile! Not an issue I am not looking forward to!! Thx for help!
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              Originally posted by gold2012 View Post
              We were over at Hollings last evening for a clinic with our QH/Arab who measures pony. He is moving along quite t well and I mention we had hopes to get to Rolex one day.

              I was told they dont let ponies go above prelim without special permission from USEF and FEI. I know of an age requirement, but height?

              I tried to find something, but cant ? Anyone know?

              Thx! He is a very cool pony! Need to find this stuff out!!
              Unfortunately, you will not be going to Rolex and neither will anyone else I wish you luck at Longines though!
              RIP Kelly 1977-2007 "Wither thou goest, so shall I"

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                I thought Rolex was staying with Rolex last I heard.
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                  Nope. I took my 14.2 pony Intermediate. Considering there is no "official" measuring in eventing like there is for a pony card in the USHJA, I don't even know how they would reinforce it. I assume lots of people just approximate heights for events or even FEI passports.
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                  • #10
                    I would assume that the only time the FEI cares if it is a pony or not is for the FEI pony competitions (which the US have none of). I would assume then the ponies would have to be measured, just like ponies here have to be measured for the h/j world.

                    You can always fudge it and say he's 15h...no one measures.
                    Amanda

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                    • #11
                      14.2 and 1/16" means it's a horse. Just measure it when its feet need doing before you pull the shoes off. Horse. Problem solved.
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                      • #12
                        I think the FEI DOES care for Dressage. Not sure at what level. But I have heard that, if Seldom Seen were half an inch shorter, Lendon Grey could not have taken him to the top in FEI Dressage.


                        Originally posted by yellowbritches View Post
                        I would assume that the only time the FEI cares if it is a pony or not is for the FEI pony competitions (which the US have none of). I would assume then the ponies would have to be measured, just like ponies here have to be measured for the h/j world.

                        You can always fudge it and say he's 15h...no one measures.
                        Janet

                        chief feeder and mucker for Music, Spy, Belle and Tiara. Someone else is now feeding and mucking for Chief and Brain (both foxhunting now).

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                        • #13
                          Nationally ponies can show FEI dressage, but not internationally.
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                            Thx for the input!
                            Last edited by gold2012; Jan. 17, 2013, 05:07 PM.
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                              This thread is USELESS without pictures and videos.
                              http://weanieeventer.blogspot.com/

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                                Originally posted by enjoytheride View Post
                                This thread is USELESS without pictures and videos.
                                I agree! I love watching the small ones go.
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                                  If you want to see pics, which I know not how to do, you can like his page....plz!

                                  https://www.facebook.com/Moparthewonderpony
                                  Last edited by gold2012; Jan. 17, 2013, 05:08 PM. Reason: Spelling, again!
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                                  • #18
                                    Originally posted by ideayoda View Post
                                    Nationally ponies can show FEI dressage, but not internationally.
                                    %hanks. I knew there was a threshold somewhere, just not sure where.
                                    Janet

                                    chief feeder and mucker for Music, Spy, Belle and Tiara. Someone else is now feeding and mucking for Chief and Brain (both foxhunting now).

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                                    • #19
                                      Wow! WonderPony he sure is!
                                      He looks like so much FUN.
                                      Ottbs - The finish line is only the beginning!

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                                        From the FEI rules:
                                        [FONT=Verdana,Bold][SIZE=4][FONT=Verdana,Bold][SIZE=4]503.5 Ponies[/SIZE][/FONT][/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Verdana,Bold][SIZE=3][FONT=Verdana,Bold][SIZE=3]503.5.1 Definition[/SIZE][/FONT][/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Verdana][SIZE=2][FONT=Verdana][SIZE=2]A Pony is a small Horse whose height at the withers, having been measured on a flat, even, level and not slippery surface, does not exceed 148 cm without shoes or 149 cm with shoes.Ponies measured at FEI Events and Championships must not exceed 150 cm without shoes or 151 cm with shoes in order to be permitted to compete.[/SIZE][/FONT][/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Verdana,Bold][SIZE=3][FONT=Verdana,Bold][SIZE=3]503.5.2 Age of Pony[/SIZE][/FONT][/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Verdana][SIZE=2][FONT=Verdana][SIZE=2]A Pony may compete in Pony Competitions from the beginning of the calendar year in which reaches the age of six.Except for the specific Competitions limited to Ponies, all international Competitions are open equally to Horses and Ponies, providing the Ponies and their Athletes meet all relevant qualifications

                                        Annex H provides information for International Pony Championships which are restricted to Ponies and are at the 1 and 2 star levels only.

                                        At one time Badminton would not allow ponies to enter, don't know if that restriction is still valid or not. There was a minimum height of either 15 or 15.2 hands - working from long ago memory here. Don't know if any other 3 or 4 start competition followed this policy or not.[/SIZE][/FONT][/SIZE][/FONT]
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