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  • Yet another pedigree query

    I'm sorry to ask what seems a repetitive topic but I simply do not have the knowledge to look at a pedigree and see the potential like many of you can.

    Please indulge me and look at the pedigree of the horse that I have currently on lease. I have no grand riding aspirations, hopefully a couple of starters this year and maybe a BN near the end of the season if things are going well and Bacon's owner thinks we are ready.

    So here's Bacon and Rice: http://www.pedigreequery.com/bacon+and+rice
    Last edited by caballero; Jan. 13, 2013, 01:16 PM.

  • #2
    Looks like he had a lot of starts. http://www.equibase.com/profiles/Res...113&registry=T
    Not a pedigree expert, but he's 11, so those who are looking for sport horse pedigree are looking at young horses or breeding horses for the potential to be event horses.
    At 11, be happy that he's sound, and fun and safe enough to ride. Be careful and kind with him, take care of any maintenence or vet concerns, and you should have many years of fun with eachother.


    • Original Poster

      Originally posted by SLR View Post
      At 11, be happy that he's sound, and fun and safe enough to ride.
      He is all three. He seems to have a good, kind mind.

      Originally posted by SLR View Post
      Be careful and kind with him, take care of any maintenence or vet concerns, and you should have many years of fun with eachother.

      Thanks for the feedback.


      • #4
        I'm really stretching into the shadowy recesses of my brain, but didn't Pago Pago produce an upper level eventer for Australia or New Zealand?

        Stop on Red is also the second dam of Spectacular Bid, which is pretty neat, and nice for sport.


        • #5
          I am NOT one of the pedigree experts who post here, but there are a couple of things I find interesting.

          1. No horse in his 5 generation shows up more than once (not that common!).

          2. His sire is also Afleet Alex's sire. Afleet Alex showed incredible athleticism in one of the Triple Crown races (having trouble remembering which: Preakness maybe?) when he almost went down, saved himself and I believe went on to win. FWIW, I had a chance to meet Afleet Alex some time after that, and he had lovely conformation: would have been a great sport horse! I have thought about trying to find some of his kin to see what they're like. Let me know what you think.
          They don't call me frugal for nothing.
          Proud and achy member of the Eventing Grannies clique.


          • Original Poster

            Originally posted by frugalannie View Post
            1. No horse in his 5 generation shows up more than once (not that common!).
            Maybe it's my inexperience at reading these things, but doesn't Native Dancer appear twice, once on each side of the line?


            • #7
              Thank you, Caballero. The highlighting didn't show up on my computer. Shows you how lazy I am!
              They don't call me frugal for nothing.
              Proud and achy member of the Eventing Grannies clique.


              • #8
                Native Dancer actually appears thrice--once in the 6th, twice in the fifth. Here's the linebreeding report through 6 x 6 influence:

                NATIVE DANCER 5S x 6s x 5d 3 3 (1) (2) 7.81% 5x5 8.59%
                NASRULLAH 6S x 7s x 7S x 5D 4 4 (3) (1) 6.25% 5x5 8.01%
                NEARCO 7S x 8S x 6S x 8S x 7S x 6D 6 2 (2) (0) 5.47% 5x6 6.05%
                DISCOVERY 7s x 8s x 8s x 7s x 7d x 6d 6 4 (0) (4) 4.69% 5x6 4.69%
                NEARCTIC 5S x 6s 2 2 (1) (1) 4.69% 5x6 7.45%
                HYPERION 8S x 9s x 9S x 7s x 7S x 9S x 8s x 6D 8 6 (4) (2) 4.49% 6x6 4.81%*
                TOM FOOL 5S x 7S x 8S 3 2 (2) (0) 4.30% 6x6 5.86%
                BULL DOG 7s x 7s x 9S x 9s x 9S x 8S x 6d 7 4 (1) (3) 4.10% 6x6 5.27%*
                PHAROS 8S x 9S x 7S x 9S x 8S x 8d x 7D x 7D 8 3 (2) (1) 3.91% 6x6 3.91%*
                ALIBHAI 7S x 5D 2 2 (2) (0) 3.91% 6x6 5.33%
                PHALARIS 9S x 9S x 8S x 8S x 9S x 8D x 8d x 9D x 9D x 8D x 8D x 8D 12 5 (4) (1) 3.71% 6x6 1.42%*
                TEDDY 7S x 8S x 8S x 9s x 9S x 8D x 9D x 9D x 7D 9 5 (4) (1) 3.52% 6x6 3.71%*
                SELENE 9S x 8S x 9S x 8S x 8S x 9S x 7D x 9D x 8D 9 3 (3) (0) 3.13% 6x6 2.88%*


                • #9
                  For what it's worth, Pago Pago is tail male to Blue Peter. He's in the tail female line of Dancing Brave, Ghareeb's sire. He is the sire of Olmec, a very good TB broodmare who has Chocolate Beau as dam.

                  FWIW, there was another Afleet stallion who was standing in West Virginia (Ten Star Afleet) who was said to produce exceptional movement for sport in his foals.

                  At this point pedigree means little. The horse is what he is. Have fun with him and just enjoy what he is.
                  "I'm a lumberjack, and I'm okay."
                  Thread killer Extraordinaire


                  • Original Poster

                    Originally posted by vineyridge View Post
                    At this point pedigree means little. The horse is what he is. Have fun with him and just enjoy what he is.
                    Thanks. I agree with you. It was mostly a curiosity thing than anything else.