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new in safety: X2 Biosystems X-Patch

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  • new in safety: X2 Biosystems X-Patch

    At CES this week, X2 Biosystems is unveiling their new concussion-sensing skin patch, called the X Patch. X2 also has a mouthguard that sends an alert when the wearer is hit by a hard impact.

    the X Patch, a skin patch worn behind the ear that is the size of a quarter and weighs two grams. Like the X Guard, this tiny patch is able to actually sense the amount of impact, notifying coaches, trainers and team doctors in real time when they should be concerned about a player.

    The lacrosse, soccer and football teams at Stanford University, along with the football teams at the University of Washington and University of Michigan, all use the patch in full-contact practices and games. And the X Patch will be available to additional teams via X2 Biosystems’ website. Note: It is not available for retail.
    In eventing, something like this could provide a solution to the one-fall conundrum. Presently, we can never be 100% certain that a rider is okay after a fall. A device like the X Patch might be one way to have a better index of the impact involved in a fall, and also in studying how frequently concussions occur in eventing falls.

  • #2
    Indiana University (hello, Riderboy) has been doing quite a bit of concussion research lately and recently released details of the dangers of head injuries that at first scan seem innocuous.

    This news article touches on the technology they have been applying:http://www.courier-journal.com/artic...ion-technology

    I'm trying to find the actual results of the study (which include CT scan images) online.
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    • #3

      Big Brother is a patch and you have to wear it when you compete? Yuck. Dislike. That is an invasion of privacy, methinks.
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      • #4
        Oh, I love this and am totally geeking out on the cool science of it. I am dying to know how it works (like, REALLY works) and I think it is potentially a great step forward in safety.

        And I totally don't see how informing officials you have a serious head injury that could kill you is an invasion of privacy -- I would WANT them to know.
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        • Original Poster

          As a rider, if my head experiences strong enough forces on impact to cause a concussion, I'd like to know it.

          As an EMT, I know that the patient is not considered the best assessor of their own mental status.

          As a rider and an EMT, I would like someone else to know that I may have suffered a concussion so that they can keep an eye on me and get me to treatment if necessary.

          Also as a rider and an EMT, I would place greater value in metrics than in the discretionary opinion of the Ground Jury, who may or may not have any medical training and who may or may not have witnessed the accident and who may or may not be depending on the opinion of a third party such as a jump judge.

          As an EMT, I would prefer that a sport organization have an evidence-based return-to-play policy that does not ask me to assess a patient in such a way that violates the terms of my license.

          There are times when an individual needs a big brother. A concussion or TBI -- or even the possibility of it -- at an eventing venue is one of those times. Even if you think you have the right to be running around brain-injured, your horse deserves to be handled by someone with all of their faculties intact, and your fellow drivers on the road home shouldn't have to share the road with a hazard like yourself.
          Last edited by JER; Jan. 8, 2013, 10:11 PM.


          • #6
            Interesting idea.

            Of course, we need to know a lot more about it before we would be able to put it to use out in the real world ... How accurate is it? What is the frequency of false positives and/or false negatives? How consistently do the patch's readings correlate with significant injuries? How are the readings accessed, and are they available immediately? Would it be economically feasible for all riders to wear them, at least during competitions?

            If it truly works as well as intended, it could definitely be a valuable tool for preventing further injuries after a fall.


            • #7
              Originally posted by retreadeventer View Post

              Big Brother is a patch and you have to wear it when you compete? Yuck. Dislike. That is an invasion of privacy, methinks.
              Simple solution: don't wear it, and when you fall off accept your elimination.

              For someone who would like the chance to continue after a fall it could give objective criteria for officials to help determine if it's safe. Also could give us some real data to work with.

              I'm as anti - big brother as they come, but we only get one brain.