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  • Original Poster

    Xctrygirl, we did make the alternate developing riders list this year. Interested to hear your hypothesis.

    Simbalism, thats very interesting! I wish I had the guts to try the acupuncture, I'm terrified of needles! My body tends to shut down on me anytime I get shots for anything


    • #22
      I thought the quinolone data was old, and thought to be only beagles--they're using them in kids now, which is why I thought that.

      I hope you heal quickly, RLS.
      "Cynicism is a sorry kind of wisdom" Barack Obama


      • #23
        The quinolone data are old, but achilles tendon rupture in humans after treatment with these drugs is real and not rare. I've seen easily half a dozen and I don't even typically ask people about their tendons as a rule!
        Click here before you buy.


        • #24
          Originally posted by RedLetterSales View Post
          Xctrygirl, we did make the alternate developing riders list this year. Interested to hear your hypothesis.
          You're not going to like my thoughts, but here goes. Well when we talked about the lists I mentioned that we might see people making poor choices for themselves/their horses. I agree fully with what BFNE said. You won't be successful at Rolex if you don't prioritize your own health. If your horse had a strain in its tendon would you push on him for the glory of his success as a horse? The answer would almost surely be "no." So then why push your own body when it's telling you it needs a break.

          Others have said it on this thread as well. You need to put yourself first. This isn't the kind of thing that can be just ridden through.

          Also, if you're not 100% during a 4* do you think your horse is going to have the best shot to do its best? Packers are great and have a place in the progression of an eventing career, but not on the biggest stage we have.

          I'd say find a way to stop at least for a couple weeks. Get a friend to ride your horses and find a laser or some alternative therapy that can try to get your tendon healthier. But also start planning a fall back trip to Jersey. It's not a championship year, so running a 4* in the spring is not as critical as running one in the fall. Also... if you are on a list, I'd likely advise you to advise David of this asap.

          Excuses come in March. Problems arising in January can be sorted and worked with.

          "Courage is not the absence of fear but rather the judgment that something is more important than fear. The brave may not live forever but the cautious do not live at all." ~2001 The Princess Diaries


          • Original Poster

            Well, your right, I don't like your thoughts. As far as riding right now, I don't feel that I need to explain myself to you but will say that if my body was in a place that I knew I couldn't give my horse 100% around a four star I wouldn't go. Also, please not he's not a "packer", I've worked hard to build a seven year partnership with him and brought him through the levels myself. Giving him the best ride is first and foremost in my mind.

            As far as speaking with David and my plans for next year, I can assure you everyone from David to my coaches is informed and involved in the well being of both me and my horse.

            Thank you everyone for the helpful advice, I've got some new ideas and plans to keep this thing from getting out of control. Thanks again everybody.


            • #26
              RLS--my point was more at the very beginning, if you can rest it at least a little, you will get it in a better place faster. I had some similar issues when I was younger. The times I rested early on allowed me to fully recover much much faster. It sucks, but this is January. It is not as critical of a time for your training for Rolex. So better to take a little time now than if it gets worse and you are forced to rest in March when it is more critical that you ride. After you rest it a little...then do everything you can to keep it from getting worse.

              But I do understand when that is your livelihood. Having worked through a lot of injuries....and started having chronic issues by my mid 20s...it is one of the reasons I do not do horses for a living anymore.

              meanwhile....ice, ice, ice. I also did hot/cold early on...damn that hurts. If you can snag a lazer or ultrasound that might help. Too bad on the acupuncture...that has worked for me too. Just close your eyes when they work on you
              ** Tact is the ability to tell someone to go to hell in such a way that they look forward to the trip. ~Winston Churchill? **


              • #27
                Proud & Permanent Student Of The Long Road
                Read me: EN (http://eventingnation.com/author/annemarch/) and HJU (http://horsejunkiesunited.com/author/holly-covey/)


                • #28
                  Any reason you couldn't have a walking boot for the time you spend not riding?
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                  • #29
                    DO. NOT. RIDE.


                    I partially tore my achilles tendon over the summer, having torn it in 2010 and dealt with problems since then.

                    I made a complete recovery in about 6 months (including regaining fitness) this time around, as opposed to really never recovering the first time.

                    The difference? This time, I finally gave in and rested. I only had to take one week off riding entirely, and about a month off jumping. Once I started riding again, I had it properly taped. And by properly, I mean with the full layer of tape underneath an Ace bandage. It's not comfortable or streamlined, but it keeps the healing tendon from being damaged again.

                    Yes, it does suck to not be able to ride for a little while. But it is worth it to fully heal. Your trainers, owners, and sponsors will understand if they're worth your time.
                    Trying a life outside of FEI tents and hotel rooms.


                    • #30
                      sorry that had to happen!
                      I used to play soccer for years on bad knees and ankles; occasionally I'll have problems when riding. Magsoothium is a little pricey, but works really well under an ace; think like standing wraps for soaking in poultices; I never ride in it, but it usually sets it up well enough that I don't have to do much on horse.
                      Hope this helps.


                      • #31
                        With tendons, there is a fine line between doing too little and doing too much. Either one could cost you two good years of your active life-- ask me how I know. At the moment, I think you are pushing the "too much" line, but the choice is yours. Be careful, and I hope your decision won't cost you as much time in the long run as mine did. Best wishes.


                        • #32
                          RLS-there are lots of different treatment options when dealing with an Achilles tendiopathy. The Physical Therapy literature strongly supports the use of eccentric exercise (negatives in lay terms) to help not just heal the tissue but to actually remodel the tendon to maximize the elasticity and strength of the tendon. I appreciate that taking a break from riding is not an option but could you get yourself to a good PT in your area? It might make all the difference. I also agree that a stirrup with a wider foot bed will decrease the dorsi flexion and thus the strain on the Achilles. I will add that as riders we focus on stretching the gastroc to increase our ability to put our heels down, when in reality the gastroc is on slack when the knee is bent. Stretching the soleus muscle, which also uses the Achillies to attach to the foot is a much more useful endeavor. Good Luck!
                          It takes a good deal of physical courage to ride a horse. This, however, I have. I get it at about forty cents a flask, and take it as required. ~Stephen Leacock


                          • #33
                            This thread is two years old. I'd be interested in hearing how the OP is getting on.


                            • #34
                              I would guess that the OP is Lindsey Oaks based on the username. She did run Rolex this year where she finished in 35th.


                              • #35
                                Originally posted by CatchMeIfUCan View Post
                                I would guess that the OP is Lindsey Oaks based on the username. She did run Rolex this year where she finished in 35th.
                                Did she run in 2013 which is when the thread started?
                                ** Tact is the ability to tell someone to go to hell in such a way that they look forward to the trip. ~Winston Churchill? **


                                • #36
                                  Whoops, I was off by a year! She did run in 2013 and was eliminated.


                                  • #37
                                    Originally posted by CatchMeIfUCan View Post
                                    Whoops, I was off by a year! She did run in 2013 and was eliminated.
                                    Too bad. Great that she had a better run this year....and hopefully has all healed up.
                                    ** Tact is the ability to tell someone to go to hell in such a way that they look forward to the trip. ~Winston Churchill? **


                                    • #38
                                      You can import the Canadian Voltaren Emugel from Canada HERE:

                                      At least you could, I did, and it works as well as the US prescription version for me or seems to.
                                      "I'm a lumberjack, and I'm okay."
                                      Thread killer Extraordinaire


                                      • #39
                                        Have you tried Arnicare gel? Great stuff....can now be found at walgreens