• Welcome to the Chronicle Forums.
    Please complete your profile. The forums and the rest of www.chronofhorse.com has single sign-in, so your log in information for one will automatically work for the other. Disclaimer: The opinions expressed here are the views of the individual and do not necessarily reflect the views and opinions of The Chronicle of the Horse.

Announcement

Collapse

Forum rules and no-advertising policy

As a participant on this forum, it is your responsibility to know and follow our rules. Please read this message in its entirety.

Board Rules

1. You’re responsible for what you say.
As outlined in Section 230 of the Communications Decency Act, The Chronicle of the Horse and its affiliates, as well Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd., the developers of vBulletin, are not legally responsible for statements made in the forums.

This is a public forum viewed by a wide spectrum of people, so please be mindful of what you say and who might be reading it—details of personal disputes are likely better handled privately. While posters are legally responsible for their statements, the moderators may in their discretion remove or edit posts that violate these rules. Users have the ability to modify or delete their own messages after posting, but administrators generally will not delete posts, threads or accounts upon request.

Outright inflammatory, vulgar, harassing, malicious or otherwise inappropriate statements and criminal charges unsubstantiated by a reputable news source or legal documentation will not be tolerated and will be dealt with at the discretion of the moderators.

2. Conversations in horse-related forums should be horse-related.
The forums are a wonderful source of information and support for members of the horse community. While it’s understandably tempting to share information or search for input on other topics upon which members might have a similar level of knowledge, members must maintain the focus on horses.

3. Keep conversations productive, on topic and civil.
Discussion and disagreement are inevitable and encouraged; personal insults, diatribes and sniping comments are unproductive and unacceptable. Whether a subject is light-hearted or serious, keep posts focused on the current topic and of general interest to other participants of that thread. Utilize the private message feature or personal email where appropriate to address side topics or personal issues not related to the topic at large.

4. No advertising in the discussion forums.
Posts in the discussion forums directly or indirectly advertising horses, jobs, items or services for sale or wanted will be removed at the discretion of the moderators. Use of the private messaging feature or email addresses obtained through users’ profiles for unsolicited advertising is not permitted.

Company representatives may participate in discussions and answer questions about their products or services, or suggest their products on recent threads if they fulfill the criteria of a query. False "testimonials" provided by company affiliates posing as general consumers are not appropriate, and self-promotion of sales, ad campaigns, etc. through the discussion forums is not allowed.

Paid advertising is available on our classifieds site and through the purchase of banner ads. The tightly monitored Giveaways forum permits free listings of genuinely free horses and items available or wanted (on a limited basis). Items offered for trade are not allowed.

Advertising Policy Specifics
When in doubt of whether something you want to post constitutes advertising, please contact a moderator privately in advance for further clarification. Refer to the following points for general guidelines:

Horses – Only general discussion about the buying, leasing, selling and pricing of horses is permitted. If the post contains, or links to, the type of specific information typically found in a sales or wanted ad, and it’s related to a horse for sale, regardless of who’s selling it, it doesn’t belong in the discussion forums.

Stallions – Board members may ask for suggestions on breeding stallion recommendations. Stallion owners may reply to such queries by suggesting their own stallions, only if their horse fits the specific criteria of the original poster. Excessive promotion of a stallion by its owner or related parties is not permitted and will be addressed at the discretion of the moderators.

Services – Members may use the forums to ask for general recommendations of trainers, barns, shippers, farriers, etc., and other members may answer those requests by suggesting themselves or their company, if their services fulfill the specific criteria of the original post. Members may not solicit other members for business if it is not in response to a direct, genuine query.

Products – While members may ask for general opinions and suggestions on equipment, trailers, trucks, etc., they may not list the specific attributes for which they are in the market, as such posts serve as wanted ads.

Event Announcements – Members may post one notification of an upcoming event that may be of interest to fellow members, if the original poster does not benefit financially from the event. Such threads may not be “bumped” excessively. Premium members may post their own notices in the Event Announcements forum.

Charities/Rescues – Announcements for charitable or fundraising events can only be made for 501(c)(3) tax-exempt organizations. Special exceptions may be made, at the moderators’ discretion and direction, for board-related events or fundraising activities in extraordinary circumstances.

Occasional posts regarding horses available for adoption through IRS-registered horse rescue or placement programs are permitted in the appropriate forums, but these threads may be limited at the discretion of the moderators. Individuals may not advertise or make announcements for horses in need of rescue, placement or adoption unless the horse is available through a recognized rescue or placement agency or government-run entity or the thread fits the criteria for and is located in the Giveaways forum.

5. Do not post copyrighted photographs unless you have purchased that photo and have permission to do so.

6. Respect other members.
As members are often passionate about their beliefs and intentions can easily be misinterpreted in this type of environment, try to explore or resolve the inevitable disagreements that arise in the course of threads calmly and rationally.

If you see a post that you feel violates the rules of the board, please click the “alert” button (exclamation point inside of a triangle) in the bottom left corner of the post, which will alert ONLY the moderators to the post in question. They will then take whatever action, or no action, as deemed appropriate for the situation at their discretion. Do not air grievances regarding other posters or the moderators in the discussion forums.

Please be advised that adding another user to your “Ignore” list via your User Control Panel can be a useful tactic, which blocks posts and private messages by members whose commentary you’d rather avoid reading.

7. We have the right to reproduce statements made in the forums.
The Chronicle of the Horse may copy, quote, link to or otherwise reproduce posts, or portions of posts, in print or online for advertising or editorial purposes, if attributed to their original authors, and by posting in this forum, you hereby grant to The Chronicle of the Horse a perpetual, non-exclusive license under copyright and other rights, to do so.

8. We reserve the right to enforce and amend the rules.
The moderators may delete, edit, move or close any post or thread at any time, or refrain from doing any of the foregoing, in their discretion, and may suspend or revoke a user’s membership privileges at any time to maintain adherence to the rules and the general spirit of the forum. These rules may be amended at any time to address the current needs of the board.

Please see our full Terms of Service and Privacy Policy for more information.

Thanks for being a part of the COTH forums!

(Revised 1/26/16)
See more
See less

FEI rider suspension for 'irregular use of bit' via a hayball contraption

Collapse
X
  • Filter
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts

  • #21
    Amateurs!

    A seasoned cheater would surely know to use sugar cubes and flour paste. Let's see, where did I put that formula? Oh, here it is:

    (minutes of test x dressage coefficient) / tensile grip strength
    mass of sugar cube in inches squared

    Thereby leaving only dissolved remnants of the devious ploy.
    Always be yourself. Unless you can be Batman. Then always be Batman.

    The Grove at Five Points

    Comment


    • #22
      Skeevy Hack: "Duuuuude! You. Have. Totally. Got. To. Try. This."

      Just-Off-the-Farm Dobbin: :: stares hard :: "What is it?"

      Skeevy Hack: "Dude, it's like hay, but only better. It's grass."

      Just-Off-the-Farm Dobbin: "Wait. I've seen grass before. It never looked like that."

      Skeevy Hack: "Dude, it's just chopped different. A little bit between your cheek and gum, or wrap it around the bit, and you'll be flying around the ring."

      Just-Off-the-Farm Dobbin: :: dubiously :: "I dunno."

      Skeevy Hack: "It's grass, man. Grass. You eat it every day. Everyone eats it every day. Look, you try this one on me. And if you like it, let me know. "
      Proud Member of the League of Weenie Eventers
      Proud Member of the Courageous Weenie Eventers Clique

      Comment


      • #23
        ^^^^^
        Always be yourself. Unless you can be Batman. Then always be Batman.

        The Grove at Five Points

        Comment


        • #24
          You owe me a keyboard!
          Proud & Permanent Student Of The Long Road
          Read me: EN (http://eventingnation.com/author/annemarch/) and HJU (http://horsejunkiesunited.com/author/holly-covey/)

          Comment


          • #25
            OMG. This is awesome!
            Originally posted by Nickelodian
            We jump horses. Over sticks. For fun.
            Never take life too seriously. Nobody makes it out alive anyway.
            Regulus RDL

            Comment


            • #26
              Excellent! Thank you for this!

              Comment


              • #27
                I want to know did they confiscate the bit and hay ball as evidence? Do any photos exist? Clearly, tying fibrous foodstuffs to the bit is against the spirit of the rules - but feeding a bit of sugar to encourage salivation isn't a shooting offense, and letting a horse graze a bit is a common endurance rider means of getting pulse and respiration down - probably more eventers should try it before dressage... ( )

                I would guess that the right bundle of hay could relax a horse's jaw, could make it harder for a horse to draw his tongue back and possibly put it over the bit, could mute raucous bit chewing and clanking. Interesting!
                http://wildwoodfarmnc.com

                http://cantersgutenberg.wordpress.co...g-quiet-goose/

                Comment

                • Original Poster

                  #28
                  Originally posted by enjoytheride View Post
                  I wonder if I would gain an advantage in dressage if I stuffed my horse's mouth full of cookies before we entered the ring.
                  Not sure about that, but I do know that I would be happier in dressage if I stuffed my own mouth full of cookies before we entered the ring.

                  Comment


                  • #29
                    Originally posted by mugsgame View Post
                    My thoughts are you do not try something new like that at a 4* so my guess is that it has been tested before.
                    Riders have often used various things in the past. The most common is to offer a mint before going in to try and keep the mouth accepting. The worst I have heard of is using saddle soap to try and stop the teeth grinding. I heard that it bought the horse out in ulcers.
                    Before i ride somtimes i give my horse an apple, or mint. Is that bad? Would I get stopped at a competition if i did this?

                    Comment


                    • #30
                      I have almost lost fingers (stupidly) trying to pull long grass/hay out of horses' mouths. I am irritated that they managed to grab a bite, so I'll be damned if they are going to enjoy it....

                      Comment


                      • #31
                        Originally posted by EnzoDbr9 View Post
                        Before i ride somtimes i give my horse an apple, or mint. Is that bad? Would I get stopped at a competition if i did this?
                        only if you had the apple attached to dangle from the center of the bit with a string, or the mint stuck around it like a dissolving roller.

                        Comment


                        • #32
                          Originally posted by Jeannette, formerly ponygyrl View Post
                          and letting a horse graze a bit is a common endurance rider means of getting pulse and respiration down - probably more eventers should try it before dressage... ( )
                          Just in the COTH-y interest of disseminating good information across disciplines, that's not actually why Endurance horses get to eat. Eating technically raises pulse (I don't know whether it measurably affects respiration as that's rarely taken anymore). The practical effect may just be that the HR does not lower quite as quickly. Horses whose HRs are already down or close to are generally offered food immediately. Eating while working has other important benefits (ulcers, colic, stamina, blood sugar spikes, attitude/barn sourness etc) and I absolutely think Eventers should take advantage of them. I've talked to Eventers about this before and one person told me she has seen mounted horses grazing while waiting to go XC at bigger events. I'm not sure why it's not more common, or maybe it's becoming so?

                          As for the hay ball...that's freaking hilarious. I wish we had a picture and a window into the rider's thoughts at the moment she knew she would be caught ("Oh no! They're going to find the hay ball! Act surprised.")
                          An auto-save saved my post.

                          I might be a cylon

                          Comment


                          • #33
                            I would want to see a picture. I have let my horse graze with a bit and sometimes the wad that is still attached to the bit afterwards can seem to be knotted on there and difficult to remove.

                            Christa

                            Comment


                            • #34
                              Originally posted by ACMEeventing View Post
                              Amateurs!

                              A seasoned cheater would surely know to use sugar cubes and flour paste. Let's see, where did I put that formula? Oh, here it is:

                              (minutes of test x dressage coefficient) / tensile grip strength
                              mass of sugar cube in inches squared

                              Thereby leaving only dissolved remnants of the devious ploy.

                              Or, just buy GumBits. Lots of excuses why people use them, but we all know why they're *actually* being used.

                              Comment


                              • #35
                                Originally posted by HillnDale View Post
                                ("Oh no! They're going to find the hay ball! Act surprised.")
                                "That's, uh, not mine."
                                Always be yourself. Unless you can be Batman. Then always be Batman.

                                The Grove at Five Points

                                Comment

                                Working...
                                X