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Nathe/HS Duo thread--can't find Nathe mullen in a D ring.

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  • Nathe/HS Duo thread--can't find Nathe mullen in a D ring.

    I want to try a D ring mullen.
    Looks like BOB only rents out the metal KKs.

    Nathe or Duo it doesn't matter. (I think they are identical, right?)

    I just hate to dish out the $$ before giving it a ride on the flat.

    Or, anyone out there have one in their bit bucket that they would rent out??
    Last edited by purplnurpl; Dec. 20, 2012, 12:10 PM.
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    Originally posted by purplnurpl View Post
    I want to try a D ring mullen.
    Looks like BOB only rents out the metal KKs.

    Nathe or Duo it doesn't matter. (I think they are identical, right?)

    I just hate to dish out the $$ before giving it a ride on the flat.

    Or, anyone out there have one in their bit bucket that they would rent out??
    Also very interested in finding this out, specifically with the D cheek. I think my big boy would love one, but it's an investment that I can't make without good reason.

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    • #3
      I can't imagine anyone would rent these out as they are pretty easily chewed. I lent my nathe to someone and it came back chewed up...so they had to buy it from me! They aren't identical, as the shape is a bit different and I consider the nathe somewhat more flexible than the duo. I have both, but have learned from my one lending episode not to do that again. The loose ring can be cheaper if you want to buy that for trying rather than the dee ring.

      edited to fix autocorrect!

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      • #4
        You can check with:
        http://www.marystack.com/marysbitrentalprogram.html

        Shipping probably prohibitive, http://www.horsebitbank.com/

        My guess is that most places won't because it is really hard to have a plastic bit come back in truly good shape. You might see what SmartPaks return policy is on bits
        OTTBs rule, but spots are good too!

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        • #5
          I have a loose ring Herm Sprenger Duo (5 1/4) that I would be happy to let you try. PM if you are interested, it's not a D ring, but the best I can offer!

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          • #6
            Doubt you will find anywhere. I think they are a very useful bit to have in your bit collection. But if you want to try something similar but more affordable. Go get a roll or two of Sealtex and wrap a plain snaffle it it (D ring). If you wrap the whole bit, you can make it feel more like a mullen mouth with some flexibility. You will get enough of a similar effect I think to let you know if that really is the direction for your bit that you want to go.
            ** Tact is the ability to tell someone to go to hell in such a way that they look forward to the trip. ~Winston Churchill? **

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            • #7
              I usually try a happy mouth first... or one of my leather bits... and then decide from there.
              Big Idea Eventing

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                #8
                I have him in the bumpy mullen happy mouth now. I want to go even more subtle. I have more than enough control in the happy mouth. I think he would like a nathe even more but I think his mouth is too small for the bendable rubber dog bone.
                Shame....rubber dog bones are only 10 bucks....as apposed to $150! ya gatta pay for the good stuff!!
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                • #9
                  Why not try leather? I think they're softer than nathe!
                  Big Idea Eventing

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                  • #10
                    I have the Duo in a D-ring. Love it. Have used it on multiple horses. It is a very useful bit to have in your trunk. Given what you have tried, if you can swing it, it would be useful.
                    ** Tact is the ability to tell someone to go to hell in such a way that they look forward to the trip. ~Winston Churchill? **

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                    • #11
                      epona - remind me where you get your leather bits
                      OTTBs rule, but spots are good too!

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by scubed View Post
                        epona - remind me where you get your leather bits
                        Yes, please.

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                          #13
                          I actually can't find a nathe in a D ring! hmmm...
                          guess that narrows it down for me.
                          I'll have to go for the Herm Duo.

                          I really prefer D ring. It puzzles me as to why more folks don't use them.
                          I actually have a full cheek phobia. (I have visions of myself coming off and having that full cheek piece go up my nose or something...)

                          I get that the keepers change the angle but I've never actually felt the difference other than the keepers keep the bit very very stable.

                          Best I can find is the Duo for $144.99. Anyone know secrets to sale prices?
                          http://kaboomeventing.com/
                          http://kaboomeventing.blogspot.com/
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                          • #14
                            D-Ring "Duo/Nathe-esque" Bit

                            The bit in the above link is only $10 cheaper than what the HS Duo D-Ring goes for, but something interesting about it is that you can choose the density/firmness of the bit. Of course, ordering from the UK, you will probably end up paying the same as for the HS Duo in shipping. However, I've ordered from this company before (a happy mouth boucher that I could not find ANYWHERE in the US) and they are very good, I got the bit much quicker than I anticipated.

                            Description of the "density" options below:
                            Soft - flexible and pleasant in the mouth by a flexible steel core high security, particularly for sensitive or young horse

                            Medium - flexible with a certain stability, for normal use

                            Hard/Firm - but by the material is very pleasant in the mouth, for very strong or very supporting horses.

                            They offer the same bit in an eggbutt which would reduce the price to about $107 and you can choose between two ring sizes (60 or 75mm). Mouth thickness is 18mm (2mm larger than the Duo) for the eggbutt and d-ring.

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                            • #15
                              I get my leather bits from Bedford Tack in Bell Buckle, TN. They keep them stocked now but custom make them within the day for misc sizes. Order 1/4-1/2" bigger than normal. They're loose rings but they're not really loose. They may be able to do it as a D if they cut down a regular bit- would be more $, of course, but the loose ring is less than $20 so not a lot. They bevel the leather so it's round. My girls really like them!!

                              http://bedfordtack.net/
                              Big Idea Eventing

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                              • #16
                                Nathe doesn't make a D ring. They do make a full cheek, but its not sold in the US and its VERY expensive.

                                I use a Nathe loose ring on Mr. Orange Princess, and I think Nathe is more flexible than Duo.
                                Unrepentant carb eater

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                                • #17
                                  Just bumpin', may be looking for the same thing in a 4.75", anyone find any deals?

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                                  • #18
                                    Nathe is going out of business? Or for some other reason impossible to get anymore. I am ordering a Beris in 'soft' for my ubersensitive TB mare.

                                    Jennifer
                                    Third Charm Event Team

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                                    • #19
                                      Where are you getting the Beris bit ^^

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                                      • #20
                                        Not a D, but this looks interesting, especially for the price: http://www.horze.com/Apple-Straight-...,en_US,pd.html
                                        Caitlin
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