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    [This message was edited by eqnjumperrider on Sep. 28, 2003 at 04:17 PM.]
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    [This message was edited by eqnjumperrider on Sep. 28, 2003 at 04:17 PM.]

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    • #3
      Hmmm, if your question is one of genuine curiosity, maybe you could be a little more specific (and factual) in your question? To what type of injuries are you referring? At what level of eventing? Compared to what? Why is an injury suffered by a horse "cruelty"?

      If, OTOH, you're trolling in some retaliatory gesture for the current brouhaha on the H/J BB...*sigh*...no doubt you will get lots of indignant responses, insults hurled at you, feathers ruffled, fodder for endless petty quibbling...whoopee, have at it.

      Hey, I've had days where I've wanted to stir up trouble, too. Days when I've had a chip on my shoulder. Ultimately, though, these threads wind up being sad and depressing and fruitless. Why bother?

      "If you think your hairstyle is more important than your brain, you're probably right." Wear a helmet!
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      [This message was edited by deltawave on Sep. 26, 2003 at 08:43 PM.]
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      • #4
        Where did you get that information? I dont think it is true. Race/Steeplechase horses certainly would have more, and what about jumpers? Perhaps they just have the most publicized ones. And any horse galloping on will have the most likelihood of going fanny over teacup as they become fatigued and then try to jump as well. However, I think that the most educated riders at getting the horses fit are the three day riders.

        I.D.E.A. yoda
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        • #5
          First, hope you are trolling - because you're probably in for some curt responses to your question. If you are honestly curious - I think you have mistaken information.

          First of all, I do not think that event horses are the horses who "most often have serious injuries." As compared to what? Certainly not racing (just an example, NOT a flame for those who race!!). Where are you getting this assertion from? Horses in all disciplines, particularly at high levels, are at a risk of injuries of varying degrees of severity.

          So, what exactly is the point of your question? Are you seriously trying to equate eventing with cruelty? If so, why do you think this way? I can only imagine you think this way because you are ignorant about the sport and about the amount of time, training, and conditioning that goes into eventing. If any discipline in which a horse has the potential to be injured was considered cruelty then riding in general would just be cruel.

          I have to say that the vast majority of eventers are among the best horsepeople I've ever met. Yes, the sport is difficult and strenuous, but in general eventers are knowledgeable people who know how to keep their horses fit, safe, and sound for their discipline. Regardless, accidents do happen, but they happen in all disciplines from jumpers to hunting to dressage to reining to barrel racing (get the idea?).

          Just want to warn you that your post WILL ruffle some feathers, but I'm pretty sure that the hardcore eventers on this board will be able to intelligently respond to your inquiry to defend their sport and explain to you why it's not cruel.

          Why did you pick eventing to pick on, anyway?


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          • #6
            My guess is that this is "revenge" for a certain topic posted by an eventer on the H/J board.

            Don't feed the trolls.

            Would anyone like a beer? (I'd offer chocolate, mini quiches or Peeps, but a beer seems more appropriate over here. )

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            • #7
              Well I don't think we don't care about cruelty. We are not cruel to our horses at all. In fact, quiet the opposite. We certainly do care about cruelty to horses (and I am sure other animals) and that is why we treat our horses with the utmost love and care that we can often times sacrificing a LOT for ourselves just so our partners in this sport will be well cared for and happy. If you are suggesting that we are "cruel" to our horses by taking them cross country, then I really beg to differ. If a horse does not like going cross country you will know in a hearbeat. Finding a horse that is happy and willing and enjoys going cross country is actually far from being cruel. You cannot force a huge animal to do something you do not want to do. My definition of animal cruelty is willful neglect of an animal; beating them senseless with blunt objects, tying them up for hours at a time until they pass out, etc. I don't think eventers do that! If they did we wouldn't have a horse that we would be able to ride, now would we?

              Eventing is a strong bond of partnership between a horse and rider. Accidents happen, that is part of any sport. My horses love me and I love them. They trust me and I trust them. We have a lot of fun together especially when we do cross country whether it's a show or practicing at home. I am always keeping a sharp eye out for injuries or soreness and most times it's ME that is injured or sore! I put myself second to them. Everytime I go into the barn their heads pop out and they give me a low whinney, they watch me whenever I am around. So, I don't understand why you are saying such things to us.

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              • #8
                <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Erin:
                My guess is that this is "revenge" for a certain topic posted by an eventer on the H/J board.

                Don't feed the trolls.

                Would anyone like a beer? (I'd offer chocolate, mini quiches or Peeps, but a beer seems more appropriate over here. )<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

                Beer is more appropriate!
                Pull up a chair at ringside, Erin, and enjoy the show.


                BarbB

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                • #9
                  I've got a Copperhead Ale from Rams Head Tavern, just down the street here from me in beautiful, soggy Annapolis. But I will trade two Copperheads for a Guinness or Bass if anyone has one.

                  Pretzels, popcorn, anyone?

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                  • #10
                    hey guys, read some of eqnjumperriders other posts...

                    i think troll and spoiled brat are two (well, three ) good words.

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                    http://community.webshots.com/user/lskel84

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                    • #11
                      way to go on the research schatten02! Had I noticed the trend, I wouldn't have wasted the prescious minutes responding.

                      If dressage does not relax the horse, then it is not correct dressage. - RdL


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                      • #12
                        You know...I shouldn't feed the trolls. But I just couldn't resist....fortunately this troll can only blow off bubbles and hot air....no serious danger involved.

                        ARE YOU SERIOUS??????? YOU ARE A PIECE OF WORK. Why don't you do some research, find some statistics and get a freaking life???????

                        And I think, as an eventer, I would be most happy if you didn't post here....it would be great, and save everyone a lot of time and effort...and I could sing "ding dong the witch is dead," which, every time i read your posts, is what i hope...that your idiotic, snobbish, ridicuolous posts DIE and DIE quickly.

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                        • #13
                          Because eventers eat BOTH baby quiche and baby carrots which makes them cold blooded insane hooligans.

                          Oh, and they all eat PEEPS head first. That too.

                          The witchy witch witch of south central NC.
                          The witchy witch witch of south central NC.

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                            #14
                            Take yourselves and your yahoo riding and keep it on this board, and don't start trouble on the H/J board. Thanks, and have a nice day.

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                              #15
                              Oh ya, I did do research. I think most people would consider horses flipping off banks and breaking their legs over the solid jumps as a little cruel, but maybe not. Also, if eventing is not cruel, why would the IOC consider not making an olympic sport sans the cost of the course?

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                              • #16
                                *pop*

                                fizzzzzz

                                Gulp, gulp, gulp.

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                                • #17
                                  pass the popcorn


                                  BarbB

                                  ...virtue shall be bound into the hair of thy forelock... I have given thee the power of flight without wings

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                                  • #18
                                    I think I'm gunna bow out and order some Domino's pizza....
                                    Cheers!

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                                    • #19
                                      Ah, the advantages of going to school in wannabe England, USA. Guinness available at the bar in the basement. (The only place open after 9 pm, mind you, but at least convenient...) --Jess

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                                      • #20
                                        okay now I feel like a total moron for responding to this AND to her post on the h/j thread.

                                        I;m gonna go out and beat my horses senseless right now and then take 'em out for a hair raising ride on the trails at midnight, after drinking a case of Black Label piss water.

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