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Okay ... Qualifications for Intermediate???

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  • Okay ... Qualifications for Intermediate???

    Slap me silly but I was looking at my ride times and saw someone I knew a long time ago entered in OI. So I looked the person up thinking I haven't seen them around. And they entered directly into OI a week ago and don't have anything since 2005 which was 1 prelim. Can you enter directly into OI like that?
    Do I see a Holy Sh- moment going to happen?
    Even duct tape can't fix stupid

  • #2
    As long as the horse is qualified, I think it's kosher.
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    • Original Poster

      Horse did prelim back in 2005 same with rider.
      Even duct tape can't fix stupid


      • #4
        Maybe the horse has since gone elsewhere (Canada, perhaps?) and competed with someone else?
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        • Original Poster

          Nice try dw. I seriously doubt it.
          Even duct tape can't fix stupid


          • #6
            Originally posted by deltawave View Post
            As long as the horse is qualified, I think it's kosher.
            How do you know the horse is Jewish? Was it circumsized? Was there a bar-mitzvah?



            • #7
              Before you jump to conclusions, they could be in the same boat as me where I have a horse that I was schooling, taking lessons on, had competed for many years (6) at Prelim and yet every time in the past few years I tried to enter a horse trial, the horse came down with health issues (immune system). So I hadn't done anything for two years at a competition, yet I entered Prelim this summer (after schooling, taking lessons with my coach, etc.) and was clear XC other than time since I went slow on purpose. So there may be many reasons why they don't have a recent competition record.


              • #8
                Under this year's rules, there are no time limits on the qualification
                INTERMEDIATE (I) - Open to competitors from the beginning of the calendar year of
                their 16th birthday, on horses six years of age or older. Both the competitor and the
                horse, though not necessarily as a combination, must have completed four Horse
                Trials at the Preliminary Level or higher
                But, starting Dec 1 2008, I think there may be a restriction that one of them has to be within a year or 24 months. But I can't find it right now.

                chief feeder and mucker for Music, Spy, Belle and Tiara. Someone else is now feeding and mucking for Chief and Brain (both foxhunting now).


                • Original Poster

                  Wow, Janet. I would think there was a time limit to when those prelims occurred. I guess not. While I wouldn't want to stop the Phillip's and Karen's of the world, this isn't good. I know them and they are not ready for Int.
                  Even duct tape can't fix stupid


                  • #10
                    If I were you, I would just mention it to the organizer/TD at the beginning of the horse trials. They may not be able to do anything beforehand if the rider is in fact qualified, but I think most of them will watch a rider a little more closely if they have been warned about this rider. I hope it goes okay...good for you for noticing that this might be an accident waiting to happen.


                    • #11
                      Good lord, that means that under the current rules I'd be qualified to go Intermediate on someone's upper level horse. THAT is scary.
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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by deltawave View Post
                        Good lord, that means that under the current rules I'd be qualified to go Intermediate on someone's upper level horse. THAT is scary.
                        DW you don't scare me so much (I have confidence you'll come to your senses on the course walk!) BUT a YR with only 4 Prelims and Mommy and Daddy could buy snookums an already qualified horse and you know what a great rider snookums is. COMPLETELY scary.


                        • #13
                          I'd come to my senses LONG before a course walk! The thought of Training level at this stage of the game is giving me agita.

                          The fact that I *could* do this points up two things: one, the qualifications probably need to be tweaked (hope Janet is right that a time frame is being re-introduced)
                          and two, yes, Darling Dearie and her imported Sixfiggurenberger can just go right ahead, minus the (apparently endangered) sense of self-preservation and SENSE that most riders would exercise.
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                          • Original Poster

                            Or, dear child gets a super horse that somehow gets up to this level by the grace of God himself. Horse breaks down. Somehow horse years later manages to get sound enough again. Rider is an adult, no lessons from event instructor. And super horse is one that should have been in the Olympics but completely mis-trained and mishandled.
                            Even duct tape can't fix stupid


                            • #15
                              It could be an error....?

                              One of the horse trials has me listed as signed up for Prelim.

                              Yeah, like I'm going to jump from BN to P, skipping eons of seasons of novice and training....

                              Dunno but I thought I'd throw that out there.