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  • What would you think.....

    If ribbons were awarded for each phase of the event as well as overall? Would you be in favor or opposed?

  • #2
    I'm going to quote something that a fellow COTHer on here wrote in an email to me - having our own discussion going back and forth supporting each other (and that is what is so great about this forum).

    "Eventing is a COMPLETE aspect of horsemanship, that's why we like it. It's about doing it right the whole way through, not just getting it for one task or nailing one thing. That is why we feel sorry for the DQ's and hunter princesses, because they are missing out on two thirds of the equine experience! "

    Now you all can guess who but this about sums it up!
    Don't let anyone tell you that your ideas or dreams are foolish. There is a millionaire walking around who invented the pool noodle.


    • #3
      It wouldn't mean anything to me. That's what horse shows are for.
      We're spending our money on horses and bourbon. The rest we're just wasting.


      • #4
        There's a schooling horse trial around here that gives ribbons for dressage as well as overall which I think is nice only because dressage is our worst phase so when we get a ribbon for doing well in dressage it means a lot to me. That being said, it doesn't matter much to me if they did this at every event or not strictly because eventing is the whole package. If you do everything right, you get a ribbon, if you screw something up, you usually don't, which is how it should be.


        • #5
          I think it should stay the way it is.


          • #6
            It's not about the ribbon... it's about the riding that went into it.

            So if I were to get a ribbon for going clear in stadium, it really wouldn't change the way I felt about my round.

            Just seems like a waste of money and material to me.


            • #7
              I don't attach monstrous importance or significance either way, but there are a few HTs around here who do give out (usually modest) dressage ribbons. It's a nice gesture, but for one thing I *rarely* fall into the top placings after dressage and I certainly wouldn't let whether or not a dressage ribbon is given out influence which shows I entered.

              There are a small number of shows that do give out awards for extremely well-ridden XC rounds, along the lines of a horsemanship award, but they are few and far between.

              I'm not sure how you would "pin" SJ since there are normally a large number of clear rounds and the last thing I would want (personally) is a bunch of people gunning or pulling to make optimum time rather than taking care of their (tired) horse who deserves nothing less than the most sympathetic ride possible that would see the pair around clean and within the time allowed. Just MHO.

              Basically if you want to go home with multiple ribbons this is the wrong sport.
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              • #8
                Yeah, not interested in a ribbon for each phase.

                I would love it if victory gallops returned though

                Of course that would entail getting rid of the compressed horse trials format- which I know is easier on organizers. Oh well. I patronize events that run the traditional order - D, XC, SJ (and victory gallop!!) - as much as possible. They are few and far between by me nowadays.
                Unrepentant carb eater


                • #9
                  Some of the local events and schooling shows give dressage ribbons as well as overall ribbons. I think it's nice.

                  I don't know how you'd place SJ or XC. XC closest to OT? Seems kind of difficult to give ribbons for the jumping phases. And I'd hate to see someone circling on xc just to get closest to the time.

                  Off topic but I would love an event that's just xc... And no need for a ribbon.


                  • #10
                    I would love an event that's just xc... And no need for a ribbon
                    Hear, hear! I would go every damn weekend.
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                    • #11
                      They have informal type xc competitions in England right?
                      Don't let anyone tell you that your ideas or dreams are foolish. There is a millionaire walking around who invented the pool noodle.


                      • Original Poster

                        Great input everyone. When I used to compete in triathlons it was your overall score (in that case time) as well in swimming, biking, and running. What makes it a TRI is your overall performance in all three events. What makes it an event is dressage, xc, and show jumping.


                        • #13
                          Originally posted by pony grandma View Post
                          They have informal type xc competitions in England right?
                          They exist here too Scarlet Hill Farm in Groton, MA has one or two each month over the summer.
                          Unrepentant carb eater


                          • #14
                            Originally posted by deltawave View Post
                            Hear, hear! I would go every damn weekend.
                            It's called fox hunting. A good ripping time over hill and dale, but alas no ribbons, just good memories!


                            • #15
                              If I go to a horse trial and manage to do all three phases without getting eliminated I call that a great day. If I manage to better my previous dressage score that is a great day. Ribbons are nice, but they don't encompass the reason I event.
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                              • #16
                                I think it's fine.

                                many of our HTs give dressage placement ribbons.
                                They are those dinky lil ribbons though.

                                I remember one of my very 1st HTs the organizers gave 1-10 BIG ribbons for dressage but it was out of the entire show and not just per division.
                                That was awesome.

                                Also, Holly Hill gives a Top Hat award which is a really nice prize for the lowest dressage score of the entire HT. I like that idea. : )

                                If I were an organizer I might love to do something like: give a special prize for those who rack up a 9 or 10 on their dressage tests...
                                Horses are amazing athletes and make no mistake -- they are the stars of the show!


                                • #17
                                  I agree: one ribbon for the whole shebang.

                                  But so having said... I admit to a wistful sigh when two of my barnmates came back from a weekend dressage show and they hung their ribbons on their belts to show me. They looked like hula skirts!
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                                  • #18
                                    Originally posted by Heliodoro View Post
                                    It's called fox hunting. A good ripping time over hill and dale, but alas no ribbons, just good memories!
                                    I know people say to go fox hunting in lieu of XC but it's not the same to me - dressing up, group horsie dynamics and random jumps. I really just want to go out on a xc course as it is in a competition without the dressage and SJ.


                                    • #19
                                      I grew up hunting, but around here it's a lot more "yahoo" and a lot less "jumping safe XC fences".
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                                      • #20
                                        My Pony Club region does that for the annual D Rally. Dressage and x-c are pinned 1-10th in each division, stadium is awarded clear round ribbons and then there is an overall placing (1-10th, BIG ribbons). There are awards for team stable management etc., as well.

                                        Rally's a big deal, and is often the first introduction to eventing for the kids. They like the ribbons, the organizers build it into the cost of the event. It is a lot of ribbons though, and I had to explain that they shouldn't expect as many at the local horse trials .
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