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  • Another insufferable Mark Phillips editorial

    Most recent edition of Eventing magazine, page 48. Allow me to quote our fearless leader.

    "I know the USEA and some of its members are clinging to the long format. I am sorry to say it, but those people are living in yesteryear and not [sic] the modern sport. Yes, at the lower levels, CCI* and below, it will carry on for a while, for as long as people are prepared to pay for the extra expense of staging it...

    ...As for those who say, "In my day", I would simply say to them, today you would be a participant, not a competitor at the top level of the sport."

    OK, Mr. Chef d'Equipe, it REALLY IS TIME FOR YOU TO GO NOW. You don't represent me OR my sport, you intolerable &#*)@*!. Jimmy Wofford, Denny Emerson, Bruce Davidson (to name a few) are inferior relics, eh? Well, what does that make YOU? A relic several cuts below that level.

    I for one am MORE than willing to pay for the preservation of my sport. I'm not, however, willing to pay your freaking salary. I hope to God that that salary is not coming out of MY USEA and USEF dues!

    Oh, I am so pissed. I noticed that the column is sponsored by Fleeceworks. No more of their products for me! Can we please get an American coach now, someone who understands the sport in this country???
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    Most recent edition of Eventing magazine, page 48. Allow me to quote our fearless leader.

    "I know the USEA and some of its members are clinging to the long format. I am sorry to say it, but those people are living in yesteryear and not [sic] the modern sport. Yes, at the lower levels, CCI* and below, it will carry on for a while, for as long as people are prepared to pay for the extra expense of staging it...

    ...As for those who say, "In my day", I would simply say to them, today you would be a participant, not a competitor at the top level of the sport."

    OK, Mr. Chef d'Equipe, it REALLY IS TIME FOR YOU TO GO NOW. You don't represent me OR my sport, you intolerable &#*)@*!. Jimmy Wofford, Denny Emerson, Bruce Davidson (to name a few) are inferior relics, eh? Well, what does that make YOU? A relic several cuts below that level.

    I for one am MORE than willing to pay for the preservation of my sport. I'm not, however, willing to pay your freaking salary. I hope to God that that salary is not coming out of MY USEA and USEF dues!

    Oh, I am so pissed. I noticed that the column is sponsored by Fleeceworks. No more of their products for me! Can we please get an American coach now, someone who understands the sport in this country???
    Click here before you buy.

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    • #3
      I saw that too. To tell you the truth, I was not inclined (when I checked my mailbox at 10:45 last night) to waste my late evening time reading anything he had to say (especially not when THE MAN is featured on the cover, and I flipped immediately to that story). I did see the droll comment that CMP made (listed under Nathalie and West Farthing's picture from Luhumulen) that was along the lines of they-did-an-ok-job-but-the-dressage-can-be-fixed. HUH!?! I just saw Nathalie and West Farthing 2 weeks ago and I could see them coming to the dressage ring a mile away. That is just one gorgeous horse. He's going to have off days, but I would never imagine that their "weakness" was dressage. Of course, I guess if you're an advocate of the short-format (CMP), then dressage is where you've got to win it.

      Ok, just went back and read this and I'm rambling! Suffice it to say that I also wildly call for a new chef (it's not as though the US is short of talented mentors/coaches). Can we stage a protest in New Orleans this year?
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      • #4
        If we stage a protest in New Orleans, I'm so there!
        There are soooo many qualified talented coaches out in the world. Why do we have to suffer with this egomaniacal narcissistic fool????
        Even duct tape can't fix stupid

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        • #5
          As with all my USEA mail, I won't even get the glory of reading my magazine for anothe 2 weeks!
          Experience is what you get, when you didn't get what you wanted.

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          • #6
            I say we all pressure David O'Connor. He's got enough political clout that if he really wanted the job they'd have to give it to him!

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            • #7
              You can't have Jimmy. Plans are underway to spirit him away to New Zealand, where he can fish to his heart's content and teach the thirsty younger generation how to drink...er, I mean ride. Between him and BLyth, we'll be unstoppable, mwahahahahahaa.

              Sorry guys, just had coffee...
              Chief Irrelevant Poster and member of the Broken Leg Brigade.

              I wouldn't event at all, but it feels SO GOOD when you complete in one piece...

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              • #8
                Too bad David O'Connor is going to be busy training the competition.
                David O'Connor Training Canadian Team
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                • #9
                  <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Yes, at the lower levels, CCI* and below, it will carry on for a while, for as long as people are prepared to pay for the extra expense of staging it... </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

                  Haven't received my issue yet, but I have thought about the expense issue. I have not seen that the short-format events are any less expensive to enter (despite the supposed decreased expense to organizers), if anything, some of the entry fees are higher than last year. So how long will the competitors (especially amateurs like myself) pay to attend a really expensive horse trial? If faced with a choice of attending 2-3 regular events vs. 1 short-format, I would chose to go to regular events. It is the long format that I would be willing to pay the extra money and make the extra sacrifice to go.

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                  • #10
                    KnRponies,

                    CMP is refering to the costs to the organizers, not the competitors. It is a veiled attempt to justify abandonment of the new format.

                    Yes, it is VERY expensive to put on a full format 3-day but that is because the FEI rules are so onerous. They require so many paid officials that an organizer can never make money and keep the entry fees down.

                    Reed

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                    • #11
                      Deltawave and all who become incensed everytime Mark Phillips opens his insufferable mouth - y'know, one way we can avoid having to deal with him, and at the same time stop at least a bit of his incessant reminders that the long format is a dead subject, LOTS AND LOTS OF US NEED TO WRITE,CALL, EMAIL THE USEA, AND INSIST THAT HE NOT BE GIVEN SO MUCH SPACE TO SPEW AND SPREAD HIS THINKING - AND INFLUENCE! I'm sending off a letter tomorrow; I never get any response to emails from the USEA.
                      ~ it no longer matters what level I do, as long as I am doing it..~ with many thanks, to Elizabeth Callahan

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                      • #12
                        Haven't seen the article, as usual my magazine will come late. Also pissed that I renewed my COTH, they cashed the check a month ago, haven't seen a COTH for 2 months!

                        Just talking to a friend that stopped by my farm tonght about the new world of eventing. I am just so sick of all this poltical s@#$

                        I am more than willing to do what we need to do for the adult amatuers. Or better yet, how about the young rider that has no support, money or horse, but has the talent? Gee, don't they deserve a chance? If we have a protest in New Orleans, count me in!

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                        • #13
                          Hell you guys got him - no-one else really wanted him...lol just kidding.. he used to make some sense didnt he? ... not sure anymore
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                          • #14
                            Hear hear Deltawave!

                            You have hit the CMP nail on the head.

                            The Canadians need a team coach, don't they? Could we stage a massive fundraiser to pay his salary to coach THEM?

                            At the very least we could have a bake sale.

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                            • #15
                              Yeh, let's raise money to pay him to coach somebody else. I'll make t-shirts that say "IT'S TIME TO SEND THE CAPTAIN OUT TO SEA." Or should that be "...OUT TO CIC"?
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                              • #16
                                OMG!!! When are we going to ditch that man and get a real leader who supports the REAL sport of 3 Day eventing! I cant stand him!!! Where is Denny???

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                                • #17
                                  Blech!!!!

                                  What a horrible representative for our sport! Can you imagine being an ULR and dealing with that attitude in the team coach? No wonder the classic format is being killed off from the top down. Of course, it would be nice to see some of them grow spines and stand up for what they truly believe it (because you can't tell me that they all think this short format is the be all to end all).

                                  How can we make a difference? Any updates from the Classic Format committee?

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                                  • Original Poster

                                    #18
                                    Ooooh, I love it. T-shirts reading "MUTINY: DOWN WITH THE CAPTAIN!" at the USEA convention! (where is the evil-grin smiley?)
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                                    • #19
                                      Addressing only the question of whether Capt. Phillips should stay on as coach:
                                      Shouldn't that be decided more by team memebers, short or long listed, than by the general membership of USEA?
                                      Also, I would like to swim against the tide here....
                                      I also am very disappointed to see the sport of eventing abolishing the long format. However, I do enjoy reading Capt. Phillips' bold statements of his opinions, whether or not I personally share those opinions. And I do like my Fleeceworks pad.

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                                      • #20
                                        <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by deltawave:
                                        Ooooh, I love it. T-shirts reading "MUTINY: DOWN WITH THE CAPTAIN!" at the USEA convention! (where is the evil-grin smiley?) </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

                                        You could always sell dartboards with that slogan and CMP's face........
                                        "Why would anybody come here if they had a pony? Who leaves a country packed with ponies to come to a non-pony country? It doesn't make sense!"

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