• Welcome to the Chronicle Forums.
    Please complete your profile. The forums and the rest of www.chronofhorse.com has single sign-in, so your log in information for one will automatically work for the other. Disclaimer: The opinions expressed here are the views of the individual and do not necessarily reflect the views and opinions of The Chronicle of the Horse.

Announcement

Collapse

Forum rules and no-advertising policy

As a participant on this forum, it is your responsibility to know and follow our rules. Please read this message in its entirety.

Board Rules

1. You’re responsible for what you say.
As outlined in Section 230 of the Communications Decency Act, The Chronicle of the Horse and its affiliates, as well Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd., the developers of vBulletin, are not legally responsible for statements made in the forums.

This is a public forum viewed by a wide spectrum of people, so please be mindful of what you say and who might be reading it—details of personal disputes are likely better handled privately. While posters are legally responsible for their statements, the moderators may in their discretion remove or edit posts that violate these rules. Users have the ability to modify or delete their own messages after posting, but administrators generally will not delete posts, threads or accounts upon request.

Outright inflammatory, vulgar, harassing, malicious or otherwise inappropriate statements and criminal charges unsubstantiated by a reputable news source or legal documentation will not be tolerated and will be dealt with at the discretion of the moderators.

2. Conversations in horse-related forums should be horse-related.
The forums are a wonderful source of information and support for members of the horse community. While it’s understandably tempting to share information or search for input on other topics upon which members might have a similar level of knowledge, members must maintain the focus on horses.

3. Keep conversations productive, on topic and civil.
Discussion and disagreement are inevitable and encouraged; personal insults, diatribes and sniping comments are unproductive and unacceptable. Whether a subject is light-hearted or serious, keep posts focused on the current topic and of general interest to other participants of that thread. Utilize the private message feature or personal email where appropriate to address side topics or personal issues not related to the topic at large.

4. No advertising in the discussion forums.
Posts in the discussion forums directly or indirectly advertising horses, jobs, items or services for sale or wanted will be removed at the discretion of the moderators. Use of the private messaging feature or email addresses obtained through users’ profiles for unsolicited advertising is not permitted.

Company representatives may participate in discussions and answer questions about their products or services, or suggest their products on recent threads if they fulfill the criteria of a query. False "testimonials" provided by company affiliates posing as general consumers are not appropriate, and self-promotion of sales, ad campaigns, etc. through the discussion forums is not allowed.

Paid advertising is available on our classifieds site and through the purchase of banner ads. The tightly monitored Giveaways forum permits free listings of genuinely free horses and items available or wanted (on a limited basis). Items offered for trade are not allowed.

Advertising Policy Specifics
When in doubt of whether something you want to post constitutes advertising, please contact a moderator privately in advance for further clarification. Refer to the following points for general guidelines:

Horses – Only general discussion about the buying, leasing, selling and pricing of horses is permitted. If the post contains, or links to, the type of specific information typically found in a sales or wanted ad, and it’s related to a horse for sale, regardless of who’s selling it, it doesn’t belong in the discussion forums.

Stallions – Board members may ask for suggestions on breeding stallion recommendations. Stallion owners may reply to such queries by suggesting their own stallions, only if their horse fits the specific criteria of the original poster. Excessive promotion of a stallion by its owner or related parties is not permitted and will be addressed at the discretion of the moderators.

Services – Members may use the forums to ask for general recommendations of trainers, barns, shippers, farriers, etc., and other members may answer those requests by suggesting themselves or their company, if their services fulfill the specific criteria of the original post. Members may not solicit other members for business if it is not in response to a direct, genuine query.

Products – While members may ask for general opinions and suggestions on equipment, trailers, trucks, etc., they may not list the specific attributes for which they are in the market, as such posts serve as wanted ads.

Event Announcements – Members may post one notification of an upcoming event that may be of interest to fellow members, if the original poster does not benefit financially from the event. Such threads may not be “bumped” excessively. Premium members may post their own notices in the Event Announcements forum.

Charities/Rescues – Announcements for charitable or fundraising events can only be made for 501(c)(3) tax-exempt organizations. Special exceptions may be made, at the moderators’ discretion and direction, for board-related events or fundraising activities in extraordinary circumstances.

Occasional posts regarding horses available for adoption through IRS-registered horse rescue or placement programs are permitted in the appropriate forums, but these threads may be limited at the discretion of the moderators. Individuals may not advertise or make announcements for horses in need of rescue, placement or adoption unless the horse is available through a recognized rescue or placement agency or government-run entity or the thread fits the criteria for and is located in the Giveaways forum.

5. Do not post copyrighted photographs unless you have purchased that photo and have permission to do so.

6. Respect other members.
As members are often passionate about their beliefs and intentions can easily be misinterpreted in this type of environment, try to explore or resolve the inevitable disagreements that arise in the course of threads calmly and rationally.

If you see a post that you feel violates the rules of the board, please click the “alert” button (exclamation point inside of a triangle) in the bottom left corner of the post, which will alert ONLY the moderators to the post in question. They will then take whatever action, or no action, as deemed appropriate for the situation at their discretion. Do not air grievances regarding other posters or the moderators in the discussion forums.

Please be advised that adding another user to your “Ignore” list via your User Control Panel can be a useful tactic, which blocks posts and private messages by members whose commentary you’d rather avoid reading.

7. We have the right to reproduce statements made in the forums.
The Chronicle of the Horse may copy, quote, link to or otherwise reproduce posts, or portions of posts, in print or online for advertising or editorial purposes, if attributed to their original authors, and by posting in this forum, you hereby grant to The Chronicle of the Horse a perpetual, non-exclusive license under copyright and other rights, to do so.

8. We reserve the right to enforce and amend the rules.
The moderators may delete, edit, move or close any post or thread at any time, or refrain from doing any of the foregoing, in their discretion, and may suspend or revoke a user’s membership privileges at any time to maintain adherence to the rules and the general spirit of the forum. These rules may be amended at any time to address the current needs of the board.

Please see our full Terms of Service and Privacy Policy for more information.

Thanks for being a part of the COTH forums!

(Revised 1/26/16)
See more
See less

Horse living tied to pole

Collapse
X
  • Filter
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts

  • Horse living tied to pole

    I am in NC, and tonight discovered a horse up the hill from my barn apparently living (for a few days at least) tied to a power pole on a l-o-n-g rope. I'd say he can do about a 20m circle around that pole if he (or she) doesn't get tangled.

    He did have hay (a so-so round bale), water, and salt. And he was wearing a blanket.

    But he is skinny under a blanket (which was on despite the fact that it was 70 degrees today), his feet are awful, he has rope burns on his ankles, and the blanket fit so badly that it was really tight around his shoulders. And he has no shelter at all.

    We've had dog trouble with these neighbors in the past, and there has been violence (shooting!) up there a few years ago. I will call animal control in the a.m., but what to do if they don't do anything? Anyone have suggestions?

  • #2
    Call the police tonight and meet them there. Maybe they can release the horse to you and animal control can investigate in the morning.
    http://weanieeventer.blogspot.com/

    Comment


    • #3
      I doubt AC will be able to do anything, but at least there will be a record if anything happens down the road.
      there are 2 horses living tied to a trailer in a nearby neighborhood. AC was called and came to take a look but could not intervene as it was not illegal.
      "When life gives you scurvy, make lemonade."

      Comment


      • #4
        call Animal Control as well as the USERL. USERL may be able to help you out too.

        Comment


        • #5
          Originally posted by Mr.GMan View Post
          call Animal Control as well as the USERL. USERL may be able to help you out too.
          USERL is awesome. If you can get pictures of the horse, email them to that organization. They are very determined to help.
          And this is the story of your red right ankle.

          Comment


          • #6
            If having horses staked out was illegal, our local AC would be completely overwhelmed and more than half the people on my road would be in jail (they probably should be for various reasons anyway...). If a horse has food and water, there is nothing AC is going to do about it. I'm not saying this is a good way to keep horses, but having a horse tied up isn't necessarily cruelty (that 20 M circle is a lot bigger than your average stall, right?). Around here, we see lots of horses staked out along the highway so they can eat the green grass by the road. I fear them getting tangled, or breaking free and running into the road... but there's still nothing illegal about it. How about talking to your neighbors and asking about the horse's story? If you just discovered it, there could be all sorts of reasons... perhaps they just acquired it on a whim (perhaps out of sympathy for the poor creature) and didn't know where else to put it for the time being. Or maybe they don't have a clue what they're doing and need help. Automatically trying to get them in legal trouble without even knowing who they are is a bit rough.

            Comment


            • #7
              USERL is very active in NC. You can even just give them the address and they will check it out. Take pictures of everything if you can.
              Life doesn't have perfect footing.

              Bloggily entertain yourself with our adventures (and disasters):
              We Are Flying Solo

              Comment


              • #8
                Way more than half the people here stake their horses out. The few I talked to had no clue it was a bad idea until I told them I won't do it and why. I had never seen it done until I moved here.

                But despite it being a really bad idea, it's not illegal. Most of those who do it are desperate for some grass in this drought, or just aren't very educated about horses.

                Comment


                • #9
                  ahh, and oops - based on this, ignore my reply to EqT in her thread! If you want to volunteer your old solar charger and electric fencing to your neighbors, or otherwise befriend them and see if there is any way to form a mutual aid society, go for it. But -

                  I know I laugh at myself remembering how I would sometime be frustrated as a boarder to find my horse naked in the cold, or blanketed in the warm sun. Now I do my best guess when I leave the farm in the early morning cold. Days that I leave the tb's blanketed and come home to find them too warm I shake my head and mutter about how hard it is to find good help these days...

                  There may be laws about having shelter available to horses, but I'm picturing what shelter these neighbors might put up and thinking that's not the core issue, eh?

                  Clearly, I've got no real advice for you - just wanted to retract my thoughts based on the picture I had formed that this was a roadside abandoned horse rather than one living by different standards than we have...
                  http://wildwoodfarmnc.com

                  http://cantersgutenberg.wordpress.co...g-quiet-goose/

                  Comment


                  • #10
                    *facepalm*. sounds like everyone has some good suggestions, calling the regular police couldn't hurt either to gather evidence and have a filed report of this, in case there are any future violations by the same people. Good luck!

                    Comment


                    • #11
                      Hmm I'm wondering where you are in NC because this describes a horse to a t that was up the road from where I used to live. I called AC and apparently they "investigated" but I never saw any change, other than the horse was no longer tied within view of the road.
                      Fils Du Reverdy (Revy)- 1993 Selle Francais Gelding
                      My equine soulmate
                      Mischief Managed (Tully)- JC Priceless Jewel 2002 TB Gelding

                      Comment


                      • #12
                        It's illegal in Meck County to have a dog tied up outside. I guess a lot depends on the laws where ya live. Salt, hay, a blanket and water sound more like not knowing what horses can do if they get tangled in a line than someone purposefully hurting/starving/neglecting.

                        Comment


                        • #13
                          In my experience, AC cant do much. You are better off calling the police. I called AC about a dog locked in a car on a hot humid July day, and they patched me through to police. There has got to be a law about containment for livestock that concerns the police, AC only seem to have power over animal cruelty, which needs to be very extreme to warrant action.

                          Comment


                          • #14
                            Call AC immediately-keep after them-Moore County where I live is really good. Contact USERL and maybe other equine rescues? Where are you located?

                            Comment


                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Bobthehorse View Post
                              IThere has got to be a law about containment for livestock that concerns the police,
                              Interestingly, here in Texas there is no legal obligation to fence your livestock in-- it is the landowners responsibility to fence other animals OUT. As in, I could let my horses roam, and my neighbors couldn't complain if my mare got hungry and ate their garden. No clue about NC though.

                              Comment


                              • #16
                                Originally posted by archieflies View Post
                                Interestingly, here in Texas there is no legal obligation to fence your livestock in-- it is the landowners responsibility to fence other animals OUT. As in, I could let my horses roam, and my neighbors couldn't complain if my mare got hungry and ate their garden. No clue about NC though.
                                Most of the "range" states are "fence out" states due to the huge property sizes.

                                Not so for most of the East coast states, where I can promise you that entire neighborhoods of happy suburban familys would be aghasted if ponies were allowed to roam free and damage expensive landscaping.

                                Comment


                                • #17
                                  It's not the pole-tying that would concern me. Not my style, but not really prosecutable. It's the underweight, neglected feet and untended rope wounds that are the problem as any of those DO constitute abuse.
                                  Life doesn't have perfect footing.

                                  Bloggily entertain yourself with our adventures (and disasters):
                                  We Are Flying Solo

                                  Comment


                                  • #18
                                    This just makes me so sad....I was going to state that I couldn't imagine that tying a horse to a stake was legal, but after reading all the replys where clearly it is "ok", I'm speechless.
                                    "If you've got a horse, you've got a problem"

                                    Comment


                                    • #19
                                      A neighbourhood that I lived in, 2 of my neighbours did this without any problems. If I tried this (not that I would) my horses would do unreparable damage to themselves. Both of my neighbours horses were well fed and only allowed this during the day for short periods.

                                      Comment


                                      • #20
                                        Would I do this, never! But it is not illegal and the fact the horse has hay, water, salt and a blanket it will be very hard to get anything done by the "authorities". Perhaps USERL can "educate" the owners, but doubtful they can actually confiscate the horse unless it is in very bad shape. Also be careful about actually going up and checking the condition of the horse "under the blanket" especially if those people have a history of shooting! At worst you could get slapped with trespassing
                                        www.shawneeacres.net

                                        Comment

                                        Working...
                                        X