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OK. I give up. Can we talk about Ecogold saddle pads?

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  • OK. I give up. Can we talk about Ecogold saddle pads?

    OK. Here's the situation. Both of my saddles want to slip back on Toby. Now, before everyone starts screaming saddle fit, both saddles seem to be good, decent fits on him and he has zero complaints (and it is my understanding from his previous people, he would complain if he didn't like them). He's going well, he feels great, and is happy as a lark in his work. Saddles sit square and even on him with no tight spots or gappy issues. Sweat marks (and, oh, do we have sweat marks...more on that) are even.

    But, I get off and my breastplate is pulled tight. Yesterday, I rode in my dressage saddle sans breastplate, and upon getting off was shocked to see how far back it was. Rode with a breastplate today in a dressage lesson and no issues.

    The thought is that Toby is slippery as hell. Which, considering how sleek and shiny he is, seems reasonable. And because of his various skin issues, he goes in slippery fleece girths (my leather ones rub him and he has neoprene allergies) and goes with slippery sheepskin directly on his back. We're one sleek, slippery mess, I think. Because of the neoprene issue, traditional no slip pads are out, and we tried sheepskin chamois, which rubbed him.

    I do sheepskin in large part because he is an over achiever in the sweating department and the sheepskin helps keep it reduced. And, lucky me, he's allergic to his sweat, so the more sweat we can pull away on a ride, the less likely I am to have to give him a shower in the dead of winter.

    So, I have a host of issues. Someone suggested trying the Ecogolds, but their price tags are nothing to sneeze at (I realize I could feed a third world country on what I have spent on sheepskin over the past couple of years between he and Vernon, but for whatever reason that seems easier to me). The propaganda for both the "Secure" and the "Stabilizer" line sound PERFECT for our issues, but the bigger question is, are they REALLY? Can they really keep my saddles on my slippery horse where they belong, keep him from having excessive amounts of sweat against his overly sensitive skin, AND not cause any allergic reactions due to man made materials?

    Speak up, Ecogold users! Should I splurge?

    PS- How do they hold up and wash up? Sheepskin half pads can hide under snowy white, rarely used square pads at shows, but, unless I get some major cash I am going to be limited to one or two pads for daily AND show use for awhile.
    Amanda

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    are you sure you're not putting the saddle too far forward to begin with, and thus it's sliding back to where it should be?

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    • #3
      I have one and it has washed and held up fine, don't think that it helps the slipping problem anymore than any good fitting pad though so unless your dying to spend the $$......

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        #4
        I took a picture of the dressage saddle to send to my coach yesterday...it is ridiculously far back. He's a little horse and short coupled...there's only so many places to put a saddle on him.
        Amanda

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        • #5
          I would purchase a nunn-finer non slip pad and cut it in half first before going for an eco gold pad. put it right behind the withers then layer pads like normal.

          my saddle used to slip on my horse with no withers and it has helped so so much. no more slipping at all

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            I would purchase a nunn-finer non slip pad
            These are not Toby approved. He has an allergy to neoprene.
            Amanda

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            • #7
              I have a custom fitted monoflap jump saddle that would spit saddle pads out. Ecogold saddle pad fixed the problem! Love them!

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Hampton Bay View Post
                are you sure you're not putting the saddle too far forward to begin with, and thus it's sliding back to where it should be?
                Generally, my saddle fitter says that a saddle will go where it needs to go, that being said I have an ecogold pad (xc model) and love it!! wish I had the bucks to buy more!!
                Cindy

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by yellowbritches View Post
                  These are not Toby approved. He has an allergy to neoprene.
                  What about a leather chamois? You can get them at auto repair shops. We used them before the non-slip pads came into style. Wet, wring out extra water, and put next to skin.

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                    Originally posted by CiegoStar View Post
                    What about a leather chamois? You can get them at auto repair shops. We used them before the non-slip pads came into style. Wet, wring out extra water, and put next to skin.
                    Tried. They caused rubs.
                    Amanda

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                    • #11
                      LOL, can't help you on the Ecogold as I've never had one, but I did want to say reading with comprehension seems to be a problem here...

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                        Originally posted by LAZ View Post
                        LOL, can't help you on the Ecogold as I've never had one, but I did want to say reading with comprehension seems to be a problem here...
                        Oh my...I was trying to be nice. You know, holiday spirit and all. Maybe people are tired?
                        Amanda

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by yellowbritches View Post
                          Oh my...I was trying to be nice. You know, holiday spirit and all. Maybe people are tired?
                          You were nice, and I didn't mean to be snotty but it tickled my funny bone...

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                          • #14
                            Have you tried a shammy? I honestly don't know what they are called in real life. its a tan square of some type of fabric that you wet and put onto the horses back?

                            Or one of those gel no slip pads that are really sticky and full of little holes.

                            I feel your pain... I have a horse who just has a lot of movement in his back, everything slides on him, breastplate is always tight.. I have had luck with both of the above things.

                            I do have an Ecogold pad, (the cross country one) I like it a lot, to me, when I've used it, it seems like my saddle doesn't slip as much. I
                            -Chelsie
                            "Hell yes I can ride. I was riding when I fell off!"

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                              Originally posted by LAZ View Post
                              You were nice, and I didn't mean to be snotty but it tickled my funny bone...
                              I didn't think you were being snotty! I was glad someone else noticed!

                              Mickey- shammy=chamois. No go.
                              Amanda

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                              • #16
                                If you want to try the ecogold pad and on a budget, try ebay. I purchased mine off of there and got free shipping to boot!

                                I use the triple protection half pad and it's excellent LOVE it!
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                                Not all those who wander are lost.
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                                • #17
                                  Go back to saddle fit - what you're using doesn't cause him discomfort but they also do not fit (maybe the tree is slightly too curvy for his back or the panels are not broad enough or too broad etc???).

                                  FP's saddle story is similar, first 2 saddles fit well enough to not bother him but you had to be careful not to end up sideways ... enter County, that saddle stays in position even when the girth is way loose (oops), with no pad, with a sheepskin pad, with a cotton pad.

                                  So I didn't read either BUT as compensation, order direct from Ecogold & it's risk free as they offer a performance warranty.

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                                    We have both the xc and the dressage. We also use the Nunn finer for stadium. Since you can't use the neoprene...cause that does work well...about the Eco gold...

                                    They wash amazingly!! Come completely white after use, and this last time, I forgot to wash for a week, and still came spotless.

                                    The Irish has major jump, and we have to be careful, because if the saddle slides back much, it is tight thru the five way, which we don't want!

                                    Since using the Eco-gold, it has stayed in place. The sweat is even, and his back seems cooler then pads we had been using.

                                    The dressage pad, is without a doubt our favorite. As much as I would love to have a saddle that fits each horse she has, not happening! That pad always keeps saddle in place! Now granted, we might use something on top to help with fit, but that pad is amazing!

                                    We need a couple more, but they are pricey......so we make do with one, but between rides we flip it over, wipe w damp cloth, and usually it is dry by time we need it again!

                                    I would recommend it!
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                                    • #19
                                      I find my ecogold really doesn't slip at all. I use it to run xc and I've really liked it. It washes very well, except for the places where my breastplate straps rub it. I don't know if it would cause allergy issues--I have no idea what it's made of. But it breathes really well, and seems to keep Gully's back cooler than an ordinary pad.

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                                      • #20
                                        I will preface by saying that I am super picky and all science-girl critical of new products and I HATE trendy things on principle.

                                        I will then say -- I LOVE Ecogold pads. I have the Secure pad. The stuff on the website is not propaganda -- it is totally true. My horses, despite ridiculous money spent on saddle fitters and saddles, have pressure issues. I put that pad on, magically solved. Saddle also does not move longitudinally. Breathability is amazing and my horses love it.

                                        Customer service is unparalleled. Really -- when the first pad I ordered was too big, they said "no problem, we'll reprogram our machine, you just send us the measurement you want." OMG, ok. No extra charge.

                                        I'm lazy, I don't hand wash. I've washed the pad several times in my old school washing machine, I just soak it and then wash it on the delicate cycle, it comes out good as new.

                                        The only thing I've had affect it at all was when I used a breastplate on a very long trail ride on my first one and it rubbed a small patch of the grippy layer off the front where it crossed over. Since then, I've just set it up so I either use a breastcollar or put the plate so it does not contact the pad.
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