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St. John's HT - Arizona

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  • St. John's HT - Arizona

    For all of those out there familiar with St. John's in Arizona, can you tell me what the pre comp xc course is like? Is it similar to Coconino? I have seen pictures of the BN course but we will be entering in our first pre comp there in April. Was hoping to get an idea of what the facility is like. Thank you!

  • #2
    The pre-comp course at St Johns is comparable to Coconino's in difficulty, though it was longer than the one I rode in Flagstaff in July. All the courses at St Johns follow the same basic route and there's no trees to speak of, just sagebrush. It has more hills than Coconino, but not difficult. I took my under saddle for six months, jumping for two, pony to our first event there in 2010 and had an excellent time.

    I have pictures from the 2010 course here. There were two additional jumps in 2011, both logs. For comparison, photos of the Coconino I course from July here. A friend did Coconino pre-comp in Sept and she said the course had more jumps on it, but I don't know exactly how it differed.

    I adore St Johns, though it has its difficulties. There's few places to eat and nowhere to get anything other than plain coffee. As an event facility there's very few amenities. But, other than the XC course (where you have to go across the track, around the runway and past the cemetery) it's nicely compact. Now that it isn't at the end of June and ungodly hot it's even better. Though, we did learn last year that with the earlier date the goat heads (seeds with sharp things sticking out) had not blown away yet and the dogs were in misery. Not to mention if you dropped anything it came up from the ground covered in the things. But, I'll take them over the 100+ heat any day.

    Pony and I and our partners in crime should be there. We should be making our BN debut.
    Pam's Pony Place

    Pam's Pony Ponderings


    • #3
      It's wide open and does have some decent hills on the course. I remember pre-comp being logs on the ground, which matches Desert Topaz' pictures.

      A few more pictures (from 2009) at http://www.pbase.com/wendysmoak/200906stjohns .

      Note the plane taking off in the background of the XC warmup. You really do have to walk around the end of the runway to get to XC.
      ... and Patrick


      • Original Poster

        Thanks for replying and thanks for the pictures! That definitely helps a lot. Desert Topaz - we'll see you in April. I'll be on the greenie Arabian entered in Pre-Comp!


        • #5
          I'll be the adult on the white pony in BN
          Pam's Pony Place

          Pam's Pony Ponderings


          • #6
            I did St. Johns at BN and N about 10-12 years ago with my Tb. I liked it up there. Its true that there is not much in the town and I think people also complained about the footing being hard, but I thought it was a nice horse trial.

            I think its cool that there is a pre-comp option these days. I currently have a little Arabian mare that I am doing dressage and jumping with. I would love to do some eventing with her but I dont know if she is bold enough. But the pre-comp course looks pretty inviting. Maybe I will dust off my eventing skills and make it up there in April!


            • Original Poster

              Saratoga - you should definitely join us in St. John's! This will be our second pre-comp horse trials. My 6-year-old Arab loves it, although like your mare he is not that bold. He loves to jump and had a ball on xc but he does 'chicken out' sometimes! We're really working on building our confidence and pre-comp is a super fun way to do that. Hopefully we'll see you there


              • #8
                It would be great to have an Arabian group! I would like to be there- we'll see how it goes.