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  • What do we think of this guy?

    For a lower level event horse (I'm probably not brave enough to ever go over training).


    I think he's kind of fugly, but I there's something about him I really like. Opinions?

    Here's his pedigree.
    R.I.P. Eagles Hill. 4/6/00-12/10/11.

  • #2
    I think there is something going on with his right hind. And Holy Whithers!! Saddle fit might be a nightmare. He seems super willing and quiet.


    • #3
      I like his high hips and how he tracks up. Bet he could jump you around Novice with no problems at all. He needs some groceries, but he has the build for sure. Plus he needs a home. Go try him!


      • #4
        Agree that it looks like there is something not 100% right somewhere. But I'd vet him and see what they say before saying no. Love his canter. I say go try him................
        "Those who know the least often know it the loudest."


        • #5
          His left hock looks bound up some, like the flexibility and movement is stiff,groceries are desperately needed.

          I would be careful with his ankles. If you are willing to inject him as needed, because he will need injected...

          He has a huge over stride, love his personality, seems interested in his surroundings.
          May the sun shine on you daily, and your worries be gone with the wind.


          • #6
            When I first looked at the conformation shots, I thought he looked like he had been pieced together with parts that didn't quite fit together. Then I saw his video and was pleasantly surprised. While, I agree with the above, something looks a bit off, I suspect NV may know since his adoption fee is waived. You could ask them.

            Nonetheless, something about him speaks to me and I like him. He's charming and looks willing. If sound, nothing says to me that he couldn't do LL eventing - he seems athletic enough.

            I'd vet him with the thought that he'll have some jewelry and be armed with questions about what would make him work comfortably.
            You know you're a horse person when your mother, who has no grandchildren, gets cards addressed to Grandma, signed by the horses, cats, and dogs.


            • #7
              I think he looks like a wise older horse and they are my favorite type. He's a bit funky in the right hind but a lot of these older guys tend to be this way until they get stronger and get some chiropractic work. I would probably want to x-rays the ankles because sometimes osselets aren't just osselets (my horse has big ankles but good x-rays). He looks like he would be brave to me.


              • #8
                Ooh, I like him. Wish I was closer.
                where are we going, and why am I in this hand basket?


                • #9
                  I would not describe him as "fugly"... a little tired looking at the moment, but what a kind eye, sloping shoulder and nice disposition he appears to have.

                  I second Jlee on getting the ankles x-rayed for the reasons that she stated. He does look a little off behind but he could just need some R&R and TLC. Poor guy looks like he took a beating in the pasture in those pictures, as well! A good pre-purchase on a horse like this is a must but, my heavens, if he came through that many starts by 7 with moderate success he should certainly hold up with LL eventing!

                  I have heard nothing but stellar reviews of New Vocations so I think that they will tell you what they know. I would certainly go look if I were you!
                  "We can judge the heart of a man by his treatment of animals" Immanuel Kant


                  • #10
                    I like him. A LOT. There is something about him that is a serious "wow" just waiting to come out. Very mature and cooperative. Get the PPE!
                    Always be yourself. Unless you can be Batman. Then always be Batman.

                    The Grove at Five Points


                    • #11
                      I'm not really on the up and up of TB Pedigrees, but the fact that he has Seattle Slew as his Granddaddy would make me take a 2nd,3rd and 4th look at him!!! Every Slew baby I've met has got the best brain, and hopefully that got passed on to Ruckus (which in the video it looks like it did!) Soundness is probably going to be an issue, but if it's nothing serious then go for it! But be VERY careful about saddle fit with those withers!!!! You might be looking at a series of 3 or 4 saddles properly fitted by a REAL saddle fitter (not you average tack store owner) over time as he develops muscle and gets some groceries

                      You'd probably have to sink in a lot of money on this guy over time, but I think he's potentially worth it!!!! He really looks like he could be a success story in the making
                      proud owner of a very pretty but completely useless horse (and one useful horse!)

                      Horse Thoughts


                      • #12
                        Of course he should get the above physical issues checked out, but I really think that he could be a diamond in the rough! With more muscling and groceries, I think he'd be quite handsome and he will be a nice mover.


                        • #13
                          Originally posted by besum1 View Post
                          I'm not really on the up and up of TB Pedigrees, but the fact that he has Seattle Slew as his Granddaddy would make me take a 2nd,3rd and 4th look at him!!! Every Slew baby I've met has got the best brain, and hopefully that got passed on to Ruckus (which in the video it looks like it did!)
                          Rats. I've only owned 2 OTTB's, both were Seattle Slew grandbabies and neither one had a good brain I guess that gene didn't get passed on those times.

                          But actually, OP, go take a look!


                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Jleegriffith View Post
                            I think he looks like a wise older horse and they are my favorite type. He's a bit funky in the right hind but a lot of these older guys tend to be this way until they get stronger and get some chiropractic work. I would probably want to x-rays the ankles because sometimes osselets aren't just osselets (my horse has big ankles but good x-rays). He looks like he would be brave to me.
                            Related to the right hind - do you have any kind of exercises other than the consistent work you do with them to help the right hind?

                            We just see repeated right hind weakness in my guy... he gets straight, I ask for more and have to do the same thing and he gets crooked and weak there again. I do normal dressage strengthening work, ground poles, etc., but nothing specifically to help the weakness so many of the OTTBs have.
                            Originally posted by Silverbridge
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                            • #15
                              He is very cool- kind, nice mover in spite of his recent off the track status- with chiro, massage, and lots of building up the right muscles, he will be lovelier! Ditto about the ankles- my old war horse has ugly ankles but he has never taken a bad step and I don't ever do him up after an event (my bad, I know...)
                              Be a part of the solution~ Adopt a thoroughbred!


                              • #16
                                I think there is nothing better than good old hacking out/trail riding to build up the hind end. I spend as much time out of the ring as possible especially when I'm just starting a new horse who has no muscle.

                                Proper flatwork on a very slow building schedule to condition the hind end with lots of trot work. It has to be very gradual so they don't get too sore while conditioning new muscle. Cavaletti's and small jumps are great to build strength.

                                I'm also not opposed to hock/stifle injections when needed but especially in the beginning of the work. These guys have worked hard and their bodies can be sore so often if you relieve the pain then they are willing to work the muscles hard enough to build them up. If it hurts then they will be reluctant to work properly.

                                I know people think that I'm crazy but I see so many of these horses coming off the track that are very funky behind. I consider it normal but if you aren't used to looking at it then it can be alarming. If you are really worried take stifle and hock x-rays but if clean then you should be in the clear.


                                • #17
                                  I like him too. My Thoroughbred was funky all around when he came off the track (he was generally body sore and foot sore) but he is sound and quite a nice mover now. That fellow moves well now so he could become quite spectacular. I agree - PPE too.


                                  • #18
                                    He is the sweetest guy there. While we were looking at other horses in his pasture, he glued himself to the gal looking for a horse. The others were blasting around the field, but not him. He chose to stay right next the gal as she was moving the others. I wish I had videoed this. He looked like he was giving her some advice on each of the other horses. So stately and kind. If he were the size and type we were looking for, we would have taken him in a heartbeat. Go get him. And Sherry, the gal who works with the New Vocations horses, was positively honest and helpful. She said he was fun to ride and loves to jump. Yes, he does have some "race track jewelry", but it didn't seem to interfere or bother him.


                                    • #19
                                      I have been burned by ankles like that, and would be very wary, even for a LL horse. Definitely xray.


                                      • #20
                                        Originally posted by oldpony66 View Post
                                        Rats. I've only owned 2 OTTB's, both were Seattle Slew grandbabies and neither one had a good brain I guess that gene didn't get passed on those times.

                                        But actually, OP, go take a look!

                                        I was going to say, my barn owner has a Slew baby and he is such a "duh." I wish he had inherited the good brain...