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  • Windfall and Darren

    Windfall and Darren
    They totally proved themselves this weekend, don`t you think?
    Darren can deal with pressure about as well as anybody out there.
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    Windfall and Darren
    They totally proved themselves this weekend, don`t you think?
    Darren can deal with pressure about as well as anybody out there.


    • #3
      I'm with you rebecca... How can anyone question the merit of a horse who took the USET Spring Championship last year by placing 2nd at Foxhall, then the Pan Am gold last fall, and now the first **** modified division... his dressage was nearly flawless, XC the fastest he's ever run, and the show jumping almost without fault... To see him at the breeding seminar up close and personal really makes one appreciate his studliness ... Anyone else have any input??

      I know there was some disagreement earlier on the board about his ability to run fast enough across country to satisfy the Athens selectors, but to be only 4 seconds over time in heavy going and having taken one long route? What more can you ask for?? I'd love some input as I think he's absolutely stunning

      Of course, it has nothing to do with the fact that I have a Windfoal in the oven due any day now... *grins*...


      • #4
        Windfall is absolutely gorgeous! What a pair they make. Sends shivers down my spine! Congratulations to them both! Trakeventer - you MUST post pictures of your windfall baby once it gets here! I am thinking (when the time comes in a few years) of breeding my mare to him as well.


        • #5
          Rolex was the first time I got to see Windfall in person, and he is every bit as beautiful as I expected. Darren also seemed to do an excellent job with him through all 3 phases. I'm impressed and hope the team selectors are too.
          Oh how I wish I had a mare to breed. I'd love one of Windfall's babies!


          • #6
            His weaknesses seem to be his gallop and the water on XC (the ground was NOT that heavy -- a little in places, but in most areas was good to excellent. Look at the number of horses who made the time, and at the time that Winsome Adante posted). Chiacia whipped him through the head of the lake. If that's the only holes he has, pretty damned awesome. Clear in my mind that he and Winsome Adante are the top two candidates for the Olympic team. Will be very interesting to who else survives.


            • #7
              Agreed that Windfall looked impressive this week. I was at the Head of the Lake when he came blazing through in terrific form. Certainly no water issues with this horse right now! Windfall's form over the massive oxer just before the Head of the Lake was so specatuclar that the people all around me collectively "ooohed" in appreciation at the sight.

              However - one minor note regarding Secreatriat's comment of Windfall's time vs. Windsome Adante - you can't compare the times of Windfall vs. Windsome Adante as they ran in separate divisions and Windfall had the shorter course to run.


              • #8
                They really have formed a great partnership now, haven't they!? By the way, they had Windfall t-shirts on sale at the Trak booth. I bought one for my neice. They say Windfall on the front and have a picture of them jumping on the back. It says something like "for now and for the future." Go Traks!!

                “Whatever you can do, or dream you can, begin it. Boldness has genius, power, and magic in it.” Goethe
                Whatever you can do, or dream you can, begin it. Boldness has genius, power, and magic in it. Goethe


                • #9
                  And just like the rider of Graf Georg should thank M. Poulin, he should thank Ingrid for the perfect training upon which the horse is based.

                  I.D.E.A. yoda
                  I.D.E.A. yoda


                  • #10
                    Well, I WAS impressed by how poised Windfall was during the awards ceremony. My theory is that he (Windfall) was probably busy dreaming about how many breeding contracts are coming his way now (yeah babyyyy! He, he!) But I also did see him get a "spanking" at the Head of the Lake. I don't think Darren wanted to take a chance on just "using his leg" to get him in the drink!


                    • #11
                      And how neat that Ballymar was the highest placing mare and won the booking to Windfall! As she is 3/4 TB, and he is at least 1/2 TB, I actually think that could be a great combination! I wonder if her owner will jump on the chance, now that she is retiring? I sure hope so! That would definitely perpetuate an impressive eventing sporthorse pedigree.


                      Dance and sing get up and do your thing ...

                      When blood is the beverage of choice, the sharpest fangs feed first.


                      • #12
                        BallyMar is the coolest. I wish Jim was around to see her ... or, no, to have ridden her.


                        • #13
                          "Look at the number of horses who made the time..."

                          Umm, according to my scoreboard, printed out from the Rolex site, only 5 horses went through that modified course with NO time penalties. Of the ones that HAD penalties, the smallest was .4 and the highest was 49.6.

                          So compared to the others that ran the exact same course, Windfall's 1.2 time penalties are nothing.

                          I'll second whoever said Windfall and Windsome Adante are at the top of the selectors lists...

                          And what is this about Ballymar winning a booking to Windfall? How was that worked?



                          "Tell her you loff her und that you don't nott to want to live with no other modder ever. If she don't nott to get the hint, start to cry und stamp your feets. If this it don't nott to work, buck." Willem


                          • #14
                            I was sitting beside Ballymar's owners, the Penniman's during dressage. We were in the Patron's tent and didn't realize at first who they were. By the middle of the test all of us were in tears. What a great and bittersweet weekend for them and a memorable Rolex moment for me.

                            Ballymar won a the booking with Windfall as the top placed mare. The Holcamps obviously donated it weeks/months ago. Coinciedent Windfall won.

                            I was impressed by Windfall this weekend. I think he's the perfect example of the ability of a warmblood to shine in the Modified format. I think if he stays sound he can be quite successful in Athens. However, it is a bit gushing to suggest his dressage was "nearly flawless." Lovely yes, flawless no. Given the choice of horses though, I'd pick Windsome Adante hands down.


                            • #15
                              <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by subk:
                              I was impressed by Windfall this weekend. I think he's the perfect example of the ability of a warmblood to shine in the Modified format. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

                              OK, I throw my ignorance out there for everyone to see, but I would think of Windfall (and a lot of Traks) as having a lot of TB/Arab breeding, and coming very close to the 3/4-7/8th TB that many eventers say is a nice horse for eventing, regular or modified. I confess I had a lot of time on my hands this week and read a great deal about this horse (who I think is spectacular). He is a great deal TB, and the Trak is a great deal TB/Arab (one of the reasons I like them so much). I personally have a hard time thinking of a Trakehner as a 'typical' WB.

                              But, I am just returning to this game of horses, please feel free to tear me a new one if I am incorrect. It was just my understanding that the Trakehner was a great eventing horse because of this?

                              "Dan the Man"
                              On the Internet, nobody knows you're a dog


                              • #16
                                Um, I thought the Pingree's still owned Ballymar. They bred her. Can't imagine they would sell her to the Penniman's.

                                "I refuse to engage in a battle of wits with someone who is unarmed."--Pogo
                                \"I refuse to engage in a battle of wits with someone who is unarmed.\"--Pogo


                                • #17
                                  Sorry, I got my "Pens" messed up. Thanks for the clarification.


                                  • #18
                                    A reminder to those not familiar with Windfall's pedigree. He is a Habicht son and Habicht had his own impressive Eventing career.

                                    The "Arabian" in the background is NOT Arabian it is the purebred SHAGYA stallion, LAPIS. The SHAGYA is NOT an Arabian--it is its own 200 year old breed, a designer breed, created to add Arabian blood without the typical flaws often found in this breed.

                                    Instead they set out to add larger bone, steady minds, greater height, everything positive found in the modern day sport horse. Purebred Arabian is added every 4th generation or so and is the only allowed outcross.

                                    The breed is similar to the Trakehner, that only allows TB, OX or Shagya as outcross.

                                    Windfall is typical of the Shagya temperament, the Hungarians demanded and it seems to pass on through several generations.

                                    The true, purebred Shagya is very rare in the U.S. but in the past few years new bloodlines have been imported from Europe. Shagya stallions crossed on TB mares is an exceptional cross and gives you the Anglo-Shagya, the exact same cross that produced another well known stallion, Ramzes.

                                    I was told that Windfall was called an Anglo-Trakehner. Just remember that the Arabian part is SHAGYA, very different then Arabian!!



                                    • #19
                                      I watched them through the squirrel jump. They looked great compared to the many sticky rides I saw through there. I have followed this horse since Tim Holkamp sent me the email about his exciting trip to Germany and detailing the purchase of Windfall before the horse even came to the US.

                                      Darren has done a marvelous job with him. Darren works very hard at everything and it is not suprising the success he has had. I don't know where he finds the energy. He is a true professional in every sense of the word.

                                      On that note, does anyone know of any packages to Athens to see the three day???? Now I'm thinking I need to go watch in person in spite of the fact that I hate crowds.

                                      -Painted Wings

                                      Set youself apart from the crowd, ride a paint horse, you're sure to be spotted
                                      -Painted Wings

                                      Set youself apart from the crowd, ride a paint horse, you're sure to be spotted


                                      • #20
                                        I'm with Porcelain Pony on this one, Windfall is the perfect example of what a Trakehner should look like. And while his Shagya background is certainly important, he does not resemble his Shagya ancestors as much as he does his black herd genes from Trakehnen. And that runs true for most Habicht offspring, and Habicht himself too. If you carefully evaluate all his sons, and daughters alike, you will come to notice that the genetic background of Goldregen and Polarstern carries the most significant dominance in this line, no matter how much TB/Shagya was crossed back on.

                                        That is what really makes this line so very interesting in terms of breeding event horses with a high % of TB/Arab influence. I just had a Windfilly out of an English TB mare, and the filly is everything we had hoped for. Very athletic, bold, nicely put together and certainly a very obvious "Habicht" girl.

                                        @ ideayoda,

                                        I think you will notice that Ingrid's name is in every singel one of Tim Holekamp's paragraphs on this stallion. Fact is, he came with issues and his true CCI format was developed by Darren, and nobody else. Cudos to Ingrid for developing a great horse, and cudos to Darren for taking him up the ladder and onto the next level. It was not like he got on and everything was smooth and easy!