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  • Ecogold Memory Foam half pad?

    Anyone use one of these? I am looking for feedback and haven't found many reviews so far...

    My horse has the lovely dip behind the withers issue, as well as having a slight curve to his back. I love my Black Country Quantum but having been using a Fleeceworks with it and would like something that offers more protection and can help fill in small gaps better.

    Have also considered the Ogilvy pad which is similar.

    Any info would be greatly appreciated.

    Thanks!
    No Trouble
    2/2/05 - 7/29/13
    Rest In Peace my quirky brave boy, I will love you forever.

  • #2
    Yes! I have a short-coupled horse and I am a tall, long-thighed rider, and no matter how many times/how often I get saddles fit to him we just are built funny for eachother, and he would always get pressure points sort of just behind his withers with his jump saddle. The Ecogold pad works great! no more pressure points and his trot and jump are much happier and floatier. I highly recommend it.

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    • #3
      Oh, and also forgot to add that I have a student on a tight budget that tried to get her old saddle fit to her new horse- it sort of worked, but wasn't really a perfect fit. The horse got a little sore- we tried the Ecogold pad on him and same results- much happier back, no soreness. She is borrowing my pad until she can save up to buy a saddle that fits up properly, and so far, it's working out great- so great, she's considering scrapping the buy a new saddle plan and just getting an ecogold pad for herself!

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      • #4
        I have to admit....my dressage saddle does not quite fit my horse properly. I know this, but horse has been for sale, and I didn't see the point in buying another dressage saddle just to fit him, when he could be gone at any moment.

        He had been a little back sore from the dressage saddle, so after getting him chiro & massaged, I switched to riding dressage in my jump saddle, which does fit him well and he was comfortable. But dressage in a jump saddle =

        I bought the Eco Gold 1/2 pad during their fundraiser for Boyd Martin. Tried it with my dressage saddle - and he's been great! NO soreness or discomfort of any kind, and he has periodic massages/chiro adjustments and nothing has been found out of place with his back since using the Eco Gold pad. And I get to ride dressage in a dressage saddle. Woo hoo!

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          #5
          Thanks guys!

          breakthru, my horse is very short coupled also, so saddle fit has been very fun since I got him in March glad to hear that the pad has worked for you and your student. Have you had luck finding a dressage saddle that works for your horse's back?

          Lisa, I have been dressaging in my jump saddle since I don't feel that my current dressage saddle fits him well and I HATE IT!!!! Would be so happy to be able to use it again!!

          I am definitely going to give the Ecogold pad a try...and there are no used ones to be had anywhere, so I think that's a good sign
          No Trouble
          2/2/05 - 7/29/13
          Rest In Peace my quirky brave boy, I will love you forever.

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          • #6
            I've been thinking about getting an ecogold pad with the wither riser option, or a thinline hald pad with riser options. (I have a TB with shark fin withers and I can't get any saddle to fit correctly.)

            Any thoughts on ecogold vs. thinline anyone?

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            • #7
              Ok, out of curiosity I pulled up their ad and for some reason the demo part cracked me
              up. . .

              I wanted to go out, rent an old Dean Martin film and eat M&Ms while watching it.

              Seriously, it looks like a good pad.
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              • #8
                I have a regular (but ancient) TL, an ultra TL, and an Ecogold half pad (purchased during the Boyd Martin fundraiser). My curvy backed, high withered Appendix went noticeably better in the ancient TL, so I "upgraded" to the ultra TL when I found one at a steal of a deal. Used that for a year or so and while it was great, we really needed a bit more wither padding for my jump saddle as it sat just a little low in front (after 2 custom flockings no less) so I was using a saddle pad, ultra TL, 1 mattes shim on each side of the withers, and then the saddle on top. This worked ok, but getting the shims even was a chore, but I've been to cheap to invest in the TL trifecta that is shimmable.

                Since I bought the EG half pad this past summer, I've only used my TL once and frankly, I don't think I'll go back there. He's soooooo happy in the EG and my saddle fits MUCH better than it ever has. I'll keep my TL and use it when I ride flatter backed horses as the EG does have a good curve to it, but I'm really happy with the EG as is my gelding.
                Flip a coin. It's not what side lands that matters, but what side you were hoping for when the coin was still in the air.

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                • #9
                  I've been looking at these pads myself. So do you use the wither riser pads with the half pad? Or do those just go with the full pads? Is the half pad enough to lift the front of the saddle if the horse has some dip behind the withers?

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                  • #10
                    Just wanted to note, bought a regular Ecogold pad recently and it is fantastic. I've done a lot of emailing w/ the company and John and Patricia are phenomenal and are really going out of their way to work with me and make sure I end up with what works perfectly for me. I'm ditching the ThinLine because it doesn't breathe AT ALL. My horse is very happy with the Ecogold and so am I.
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                    • #11
                      Hey Carried Away - I bought the EG half pad because I got a killer deal on mine off Ebay, and I was looking to fix the same problem you have - TB type of build, slightly curvy back, hollows behind withers, and I also have a Black Country jumping saddle (mine is a Tex Eventer). My saddle was professionally by my friend, who suggested that I use a halfpad just to raise it slightly off his back so that the wither clearance was better. Before my EG, I had been on the hunt searching for a half pad that would work and not alter the otherwise-perfect fit. I tried a Saddle Right pad (too much bulk, left dry spots), a THinline (dry spots, but better), Correct pad (no dry spots but shot out the front of the saddle), and my barn owner's fleeceworks half pad (dry spots). After getting slightly panicky and thinking that I might just have to bite the bullet and deal with the dry spots in the Thinline, I watched the video of the M&Ms and was sold. I figured I could always resell it if it didn't work. Lo and behold, no dry spots, and great cushioning. I am in LOVE with my Ecogold half pad and use it on a regular basis and it doesn't seem to change the way my saddle fits at all, but it does give me the lift I need (without the wither riser pads). It's a great pad!
                      "Opportunity is missed by most people because it is dressed in overalls and looks like work." - Thomas Edison

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                      • #12
                        my question about the memory foam in the ecogold pad is how long do they last? I know in the foam vs. wool saddle flocking debate when the foam and wool "die" only the wool can be re-stuffed to fit your horse

                        So does the memory foam in the saddle pad last longer than a couple years? And when/if it does die does it still provide protection because of the other layers?

                        I know with thinline their product lasts forever (or seem to so far!) And i think the newer TL products are breathable (or that is what they say on their website). I know I've been very happy with my cotton ultra TL 1/2 pad b/c it's not bulky (I hate super bulky things- I feel like its like trying to stuff a sleeping bag in a really small bag- something squishy eventually turns into a rock- and I don't want my saddle to become rock like on my horse's back!) and I don't feel like it makes my horse extra sweaty- actually today with just a light lounge he wasn't even sweaty on his back where the pad sits- just in his girth and saddle flap area and where the bridle was.

                        Though i do have to say the Ecogold pad has some great advertisement and I'm sure it does work (success stories only happen with great products!!) But I just wonder about how long it's life span might be... Anyone have a thought???
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                        • #13
                          I can't speak for how long the foam will last, but I keep it stored on top of my saddle after use, so that it's not being compressed anywhere. I figure that can only help it's longevity.

                          The EG was sufficient that I didn't need a wither riser pad and for that, I'm very grateful. The one drawback that I've found is that it can "muffle" some of the close contact feel. So if you're an UL dressage rider, you're probably not going to like it (or so says my dressage trainer). That said, I'm very much not an UL anything and my horse LOVES it, so I'm totally sold. When I have the extra cash, I'll gladly buy the matching saddle pad for underneath.
                          Flip a coin. It's not what side lands that matters, but what side you were hoping for when the coin was still in the air.

                          You call it boxed wine. I call it carboardeaux.

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                          • #14
                            So... let's say I need to use a pad to accomodate fit a slightly-too-wide to a horse that is currently developing over the topline. Normally, I would use a correction pad (Thinline sheepskin) with shims for this job. Is the consensus that a *good-quality* (Ecogold, T-Form) memory foam pad would work just as well?

                            And how do these pads compare to Ultra Thinline, for those who use it for the rider's back?
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                            • #15
                              Anyone who is upgrading to an Ecogold half pad...

                              I will buy your thinline half pad! (But I want one that can accommodate inserts, so the trifecta or comfort half pad I guess)

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                              • #16
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                                • #17
                                  Originally posted by pattnic View Post
                                  So... let's say I need to use a pad to accomodate fit a slightly-too-wide to a horse that is currently developing over the topline. Normally, I would use a correction pad (Thinline sheepskin) with shims for this job. Is the consensus that a *good-quality* (Ecogold, T-Form) memory foam pad would work just as well?

                                  And how do these pads compare to Ultra Thinline, for those who use it for the rider's back?
                                  For a slightly too wide, but overall fit is good, I think you might be fine. If you had a saddle that was just perfect for the horse, the EG might make it a smidge narrow. Again, this is just my opinion and I could be totally off base.

                                  As far as the riders back, I don't notice a difference between the TL/ultra TL, EG. I don't ever ride w/o anything unless I'm bareback, so I can't weigh in there, but haven't noticed any new problems since I switched to the EG. Except that my saddle fits better and my horse is happier, rounder, more floaty, etc.
                                  Flip a coin. It's not what side lands that matters, but what side you were hoping for when the coin was still in the air.

                                  You call it boxed wine. I call it carboardeaux.

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                                  • #18
                                    Well, my Thinline sheepskin, half pad with shims just fell apart today. I was brushing the dried sweat areas and a big square ripped out.

                                    I have owned it for about three years. Since I use it with my jumping saddle, I only used it several times per month with three months off in the Winter. Mostly, I use my fleeceworks sheepskin dressage saddle pad, which I have had longer and used more.

                                    Has anyone else had their sheepskin Thinline just fall apart?

                                    Does anybody know of any sales on the EcoGold?
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                                    • #19
                                      It seems like that is quite different uses for the Ecogold and Thinline pads. I have the Thinline Contour and like it for several reasons, one being that it's thin enough to not change the fit of my saddle. My dressage saddle fits my horse perfectly, but I like a little something extra between a pad and the saddle. The Thinline provides enough shock absorption that my horse's jarring trot is easier to sit and I can only imagine it's easier on his back (not just my lack of flopping around, but if it's doing that much for me, then it may be for him as well). My jump saddle is ever so slightly off in fit, so I put the Thinline then a sheepskin half pad overtop. I took the Ultra Thinline on trial and didn't like it. My saddle is only a 16.5" and the Ultra Thinline was barely large enough. I also didn't find it made a difference for me or my horse. The Contour has more coverage and is slightly thicker, but not so thick that it takes the close contact feel away.

                                      The Ecogold and other memory foam pads (Olgivy, etc) seem to be used mostly for correction of saddle fit. Personally, I don't like memory foam as a pad unless it's for minimal corrections - it squishes down and then what? You're left with a smushed piece of foam. In my opinion, foam only does it's job when there is dynamic pressure and it has time to compress/decompress. Ie, pressure on and off, such as a sleeping person tossing and turning on a matress or the hammer in the Ecogold video. I'd like to see them drop something heavy on the pad and leave it there without the M&M being damaged.

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                                      • #20
                                        I use an Equalizer memory foam pad--actually I have several. There were recommended to me many years ago and I ordered one. At the time I was bringing back my upper level eventer from a minor tendon injury and could only walk him under saddle. After a week of this my rear was getting sore. The pad came in and I put it on my horse and by the time I got to the end of the driveway riding in it, I said OMG! WOW! I could tell the difference. I have used them ever since!!

                                        Don't know anything about the Ecogold ones.

                                        Carried Away: you can change your horse's dip in the back by doing back lifts! It is often just a postural thing but also related to back and saddle fit issues. Just because a horse in low in the back doesn't mean it has to be!

                                        Not that hard to change it permanently!

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