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  • Breastplate question

    I need to get a breastplate for Jake but I've seen so many styles I don't really know where to go! I know he doesn't need a 5-point, but what exactly is the difference between those with the bridge and those without? Is one more appropriate for eventing? The reason I ask is because I found a beautiful CWD breastplate that does not have the bridge. Most I've seen, unless they were the elastic type, have the bridge, so I'm just not sure if, even though the CWD is lovely, it's the best purchase. I'd love to hear from some tack gurus

  • #2
    The conundrum.

    The Woff likes the old fashioned breastplate that runs straight around the chest back to the girth. It stays level trhough out the jump and keeps the saddle from slipping back. The hunting breastplate attaches high up, by the saddle dees. It will push the points of the tree down into the horse and flip the back of the saddle up.

    The 5 point attempts to mix the 2 types. I think it is neither fish nor fowl as it doesn't have the advantages of each. I would like to see a straight around breastplate with 2 straps at rings that can attach higher on the saddle to keep the breastplate hanger from sliding forward when the horse puts his head down.

    I worry that elastic inserts will give at the wrong time and the amount of stretch will be variable as the elastic weakens.

    I will probably have a prototype made and play with it. It would be easy to just pick up the breastplate straps at a tack shop and tweak it myself.
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      #3
      Hmmm. The one in question looks like this: http://www.diamondbfarm.com.au/breastplates.html

      I think it still attaches to the dees?

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      • #4
        The types like what you have pictured, I don't really find to be very effective for anything other than looking pretty. I use a polo breastcollar and it WORKS. Keeps the saddle in place without restricting motion (mine is elastic, not very expensive, but has held up beautifully over the last couple years). There is a reason you still see a lot of this older style around -- remember, function first, pretty second.
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        • #5
          Where does it attach? It looks like it is a hunter breastplate, but I'm confused by the extra end pieces.
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            Originally posted by wildlifer View Post
            The types like what you have pictured, I don't really find to be very effective for anything other than looking pretty. I use a polo breastcollar and it WORKS. Keeps the saddle in place without restricting motion (mine is elastic, not very expensive, but has held up beautifully over the last couple years). There is a reason you still see a lot of this older style around -- remember, function first, pretty second.
            The hunter in me is clawing to sneak in.

            As long as it works and is nice quality, I don't really care where it's from. The one thing my trainer mentioned is that she doesn't like the elastic jumper breastplates. I had no idea there were so many kinds!

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            • #7
              Hahahahaha! Well, mine is all elastic across the front, which I do like, but you might like the one that Bit of Britain sells. My BO has this one and it's really lovely and a quality piece of tack. It does have some elastic, but it's heavy duty stuff, even more so than what I have and the leather is very nice.

              http://www.bitofbritain.com/Nunn_Fin...ate_p/0059.htm

              As for the one you posted, yes, it would still attach to your dees and to the girth. It just has a running martingale attached to it.
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              • #8
                My preference is the hunt breastplate - for one because you can grab the yoke with a finger for security - and doing that also has the effect of slowing many horses down when they get wound up - not sure why, but it works. Also my horses have fit a hunt style nicely and it works on them.

                Get dee savers so you can attache to your stirrup bars, or if you get long enough straps you can attach it to the billets. Depends on how it fits the horse.

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by Hilary View Post
                  My preference is the hunt breastplate - for one because you can grab the yoke with a finger for security - and doing that also has the effect of slowing many horses down when they get wound up - not sure why, but it works. Also my horses have fit a hunt style nicely and it works on them.

                  Get dee savers so you can attache to your stirrup bars, or if you get long enough straps you can attach it to the billets. Depends on how it fits the horse.
                  Other than Nunn Finer, do you have any specific brand recommendations?

                  Thanks for all the advice!

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                  • #10
                    I like the amigo I have, no yoke. Also like, but don't love Nunn Finer and have been impressed with paris tack for price. The five star tack one is also really nice.
                    OTTBs rule, but spots are good too!

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                    • #11
                      I use something similar to what you linked to for every day on Vernon. It does an adequate job of keeping things in place for every day kind of work, however for REAL xc, big jumping, or lots of terrain (like when I take him on hunt trail rides, etc), I prefer a polo style breastplate (and that's what I use on Toby day in, day out). Those are my choice. Hunting breastplate my second. I tend to think 5 points are redundant and unnecessary, but that's just me.
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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by wildlifer View Post
                        The types like what you have pictured, I don't really find to be very effective for anything other than looking pretty. I use a polo breastcollar and it WORKS. Keeps the saddle in place without restricting motion (mine is elastic, not very expensive, but has held up beautifully over the last couple years). There is a reason you still see a lot of this older style around -- remember, function first, pretty second.
                        BAM!!
                        this is the only kind I will use.

                        breastplate: old fashioned that attaches to girth via between the front legs, saddle via Ds, and has a bridge.
                        http://www.theequine.co.uk/users/Use...es/hunting.jpg

                        breast collar: polo breast collar. attaches to the girth just above the girth billets on your saddle pad. It has a bridge.
                        http://www.horseoncourse.com/index.p...5&currency=USD

                        I find it a little funny when people fail to use the girth billets for this type of equipment. They end up with the attachments too far down the girth and then it pulls down on the horse's shoulder.
                        please, use the girth billets!!!!

                        here is an example. The straps attach above the girth billet to the girth. They need to use the whole girth to work well, not just one strap from a split strap girth.
                        http://i128.photobucket.com/albums/p...ivingrein2.jpg

                        breast girth: attaches to the Ds. I hate this one extra specailly much.
                        It has no bridge.
                        http://www.doversaddlery.com/product.asp_Q_pn_E_X1-0903

                        and then there are the combination equipments such as the 5 point.
                        Which I hated as well. It was a lot of gingerbread bouncing around on my horse. It was really distracting for me!

                        I buy the Courbette collars.
                        NO Elastic.
                        Elastic is another one of my pet peeves. I find it kills the whole point of the tack.
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                        • #13
                          Breastgirth WITH the detachable wither/neck/bridge strap is the best

                          I am so glad to see this being discussed!

                          So many people use breastplates without any real thought to WHY they are using them and HOW COMFORTABLE it is for the horse, and the EFFECT/IMPACT it has.

                          I only believe in one style of breastgirth, and it is the one shown on Bit of Brittain, also known as a Polo Breastcollar, Breastgirth, and Jumper Breastplate.

                          BUT - I only believe in using it at the GIRTH and WITH a neck strap/wither strap/bridge.

                          Purple...question for you. Why would you hate this one? This is the exact same style you like - you just have to have the WITHER STRAP (usually sold seperately) You can attach this one to the girth, the way you like, and add your wither/neck strap and it is perfect:

                          "breast girth: attaches to the Ds. I hate this one extra specailly much.
                          It has no bridge.
                          http://www.doversaddlery.com/product.asp_Q_pn_E_X1-0903

                          "

                          I don't even use any kind of breastplate unless it is absolutely neccessary. If you are jumping HUGE jumps and your saddle slips, then by all means, use one

                          I normally don't use one at all - but I do have this one for schooling XC, if I go above BN/N level....

                          Originally posted by purplnurpl View Post
                          BAM!!
                          this is the only kind I will use.

                          breastplate: old fashioned that attaches to girth via between the front legs, saddle via Ds, and has a bridge.
                          http://www.theequine.co.uk/users/Use...es/hunting.jpg

                          breast collar: polo breast collar. attaches to the girth just above the girth billets on your saddle pad. It has a bridge.
                          http://www.horseoncourse.com/index.p...5&currency=USD

                          I find it a little funny when people fail to use the girth billets for this type of equipment. They end up with the attachments too far down the girth and then it pulls down on the horse's shoulder.
                          please, use the girth billets!!!!

                          here is an example. The straps attach above the girth billet to the girth. They need to use the whole girth to work well, not just one strap from a split strap girth.
                          http://i128.photobucket.com/albums/p...ivingrein2.jpg

                          breast girth: attaches to the Ds. I hate this one extra specailly much.
                          It has no bridge.
                          http://www.doversaddlery.com/product.asp_Q_pn_E_X1-0903

                          and then there are the combination equipments such as the 5 point.
                          Which I hated as well. It was a lot of gingerbread bouncing around on my horse. It was really distracting for me!

                          I buy the Courbette collars.
                          NO Elastic.
                          Elastic is another one of my pet peeves. I find it kills the whole point of the tack.
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                            #14
                            Purplnurpl: Thanks so much! That really helps to clarify... I had no clue how much variety was out there!

                            Fancy That: Are there any stores other than Bit of Britain that you would recommend?
                            Last edited by Rollie Pollie; Aug. 8, 2011, 03:39 PM.

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                            • #15
                              I have been doing lots of hillwork lately, and figured I would treat myself to a new polo-style breastplate (I have one with the yoke). I looked and looked... so far I think this one is going to be "the one". I love how it's simple but has useful features (detachable martingale, saddle support from the girth and not the D's):

                              http://tiny.cc/cwdbreastplate

                              Now... where to buy it for the "cheapest" price.

                              It may actually be cheaper to have a local saddler "custom" make it! I would probably have a short section elastic built in around the chest.
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                              • #16
                                I use the hunt style breastplate, but I only need it to hang a martingale on. If I was jumping anything big enough that a breastplate would be useful I would use the polo style. I don't expect mine to actually help hold the saddle in place.
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                                • #17
                                  Why don't you just get this one? It's only $100
                                  http://www.bitofbritain.com/Nunn_Fin...ate_p/0059.htm

                                  Or do you need a Running Martingale, too?

                                  (that's a whole nother subject for me. i don't believe in those/don't think they "do" anything heheheheheheee! I know, I go against the grain on that opinion)

                                  Originally posted by WW_Queen View Post
                                  I have been doing lots of hillwork lately, and figured I would treat myself to a new polo-style breastplate (I have one with the yoke). I looked and looked... so far I think this one is going to be "the one". I love how it's simple but has useful features (detachable martingale, saddle support from the girth and not the D's):

                                  http://tiny.cc/cwdbreastplate

                                  Now... where to buy it for the "cheapest" price.

                                  It may actually be cheaper to have a local saddler "custom" make it! I would probably have a short section elastic built in around the chest.
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                                  • #18
                                    Originally posted by Fancy That View Post
                                    Why don't you just get this one? It's only $100
                                    http://www.bitofbritain.com/Nunn_Fin...ate_p/0059.htm

                                    Or do you need a Running Martingale, too?
                                    So funny you should post that one! I actually bought it... then returned it because it didn't fit. Even on the longest holes I couldn't get it to reach the girth!
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                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by WW_Queen View Post
                                      I have been doing lots of hillwork lately, and figured I would treat myself to a new polo-style breastplate (I have one with the yoke). I looked and looked... so far I think this one is going to be "the one". I love how it's simple but has useful features (detachable martingale, saddle support from the girth and not the D's):

                                      http://tiny.cc/cwdbreastplate

                                      Now... where to buy it for the "cheapest" price.

                                      It may actually be cheaper to have a local saddler "custom" make it! I would probably have a short section elastic built in around the chest.

                                      I want to show that one to Bartville and see if they can make it!

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                                      • #20
                                        Originally posted by Rollie Pollie View Post
                                        Purplnurpl: Thanks so much! That really helps to clarify... I had no clue how much variety was out there!

                                        Fancy That: Are there any stores other than Bit of Britain that you would recommend?
                                        I think if you google Jumper Breastgirth, you can find lots. Nunn FIner has one, which means Bartville makes it - so you can get it cheaper via Bartville.

                                        You normally have to buy the wither strap seperately, and the best place for that is Bartville. Only $17 (whereas Nunn Finer charges $32. Bartville makes it for them
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