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Welton Wisecrack needs retirement home

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  • Welton Wisecrack needs retirement home

    Two months ago I was given a wonderful horse, Welton Wisecrack, to use as a school horse. Though he is pasture sound he will not be able to give lessons and it's not fair to ask him to. He is healthy and in good weight. In the mid 90's he won the ** at Essex with Abigail Lufkin and has done the *** at Rolex twice with Michael Godfrey. He is kind, gentle and easy to handle. Easy trail riding would be okay. He would make a great pasture mate or babysitter. Anyone know someone who would give this great old guy a forever home?

  • #2
    How about Abigail Lufkin or Michael Godfrey?


    • #3
      what is the reason that you are not able to use as a school horse?


      • #4
        If he has a ride to Ontario I will!
        Boss Mare Eventing Blog


        • #5
          when you were given him did you not have a plan for this possibility? He is obviously older and you must have known he had a limited time left to be "useful" for you.
          The big man -- my lost prince

          The little brother, now my main man


          • #6
            Originally posted by event1 View Post
            How about Abigail Lufkin or Michael Godfrey?
            Originally posted by asterix View Post
            when you were given him did you not have a plan for this possibility? He is obviously older and you must have known he had a limited time left to be "useful" for you.


            • #7

              Originally posted by flyingchange View Post
              I completely agree,.
              My big man - April 27, 1986 - September 04, 2008-
              You're with me every moment, my big red horse.

              Be kinder than necessary, for everyone is fighting a battle of some kind.


              • #8
                Come on, don't be too harsh. Perhaps the horse's abilities or temperament were misrepresented to her. Not everyone can afford to keep a non-useful lesson horse. She's trying to find him a home rather than just sending him to auction at least.


                • #9
                  Originally posted by event1 View Post
                  How about Abigail Lufkin or Michael Godfrey?
                  This was my first thought also.
                  Proud owner of a Slaughter-Bound TB from a feedlot, and her surprise baby...!


                  • #10
                    Boy, you guys are harsh. I'd try posting on the give aways forum. The OP only had the horse a couple of months. I suspect they thought he was sound enough, but turns out he isn't. Most people can't afford to retire every horse that pass through their hands for such a brief time, especially if they are running a business. Good luck with finding him a new home.


                    • #11
                      I would contact all his old connections and try them first-- not only riders but owners, trainers, and grooms if you can figure that out. One of them might love to have him.

                      Who gave him to you? I'd contact that person next if all efforts to find his past connections fail.

                      If all of that is not an option, if he's been useful for you and your program-- it would be a very appropriate thing for you to do if you would retire him. He paid dues along the way to lots of people, and you might not be the primary once but you and your students ARE on that list.

                      Hopefully one of his past connections will step up to the plate.
                      "The Son Dee Times" "Sustained" "Somerset" "Franklin Square"


                      • #12
                        I remember this horse! I'm sure someone would love to have him as a trail horse. I'd have him in my field and be all "Yeah this is Welton Wisecrack. He did Rolex. It's cool."

                        Better to network him everywhere, like Facebook, and to get Lufkin and Godfrey in on the game as they have plenty of contacts as well. Someone is looking for a horse just like this.

                        I placed an old broodmare through my vet last year; she was trail-sound and the vet knew the perfect person for her. I never would have expected it.
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                        • #13
                          If he came with a trust fund, or someone wanted to sponsor him, I'd be happy to put him in my retired eventers pasture on field board!
                          I have a Welton Crackerjack offspring who has not yet earned his turn in that field!!!
                          One thing you can give and still keep is your word.


                          • #14
                            Some are a bit harsh here....OP is trying to find him a good home. She didn't say he was at risk of an auction etc. Just not sound enough for a schoolie program.

                            I'd too contact his past connections...and hopefully you will get a contact or two by posting here. If my farm was built, I'd consider him as a babysitter or mom's trail horse. Good luck finding him a good home!
                            ** Tact is the ability to tell someone to go to hell in such a way that they look forward to the trip. ~Winston Churchill? **


                            • #15
                              It looks to me like quiet girl is trying to cast an eventing-centric net to find this classy old guy a good situation.

                              Nothing wrong with that -- in fact, everything's right about it.


                              • #16
                                I' m going to be a real wild card here and ask why, when a situation like this presents and a horse cannot be useful anymore, and retiring them comfortably is not an option, why not do the responsible thing and just humanely put them down? We'd all love a trust fund and 100,000 acres of lush Kentucky Bluegrass to keep every unwanted or unable horse walking the earth until death do us part, but how is offering him up on to total strangers on a public forum any different than sending him to auction, really?


                                • #17
                                  Originally posted by JER View Post
                                  It looks to me like quiet girl is trying to cast an eventing-centric net to find this classy old guy a good situation.

                                  Nothing wrong with that -- in fact, everything's right about it.

                                  i agree. i dont think the OP deserves the harsh comments that she is getting. i dont get that she is looking for an easy out with this horse at all just simply a situation that he may be better suited for. i think she is doing a very good thing. shes probably safe to assume that many of us eventers would love to have this guy who has earned his retirement just merely grazing in our paddocks.
                                  i am curious to know what the OP thinks this guys is suited for, if its light work or just simply a pasture pet.


                                  • #18
                                    Originally posted by JER View Post
                                    It looks to me like quiet girl is trying to cast an eventing-centric net to find this classy old guy a good situation.

                                    Nothing wrong with that -- in fact, everything's right about it.

                                    I agree. It sounds to me like the OP is taking a sympathetic approach to finding this guy a comfy retirement b/c let's face it, we don't all have buckets of money on which to retire our horses, though that might be our desire.

                                    I can't help you OP, but chin up and good luck! You're doing the right thing! Surely someone would like to look out on this grand guy through their kitchen window.
                                    Last edited by AEM74; Jul. 21, 2011, 05:45 PM.
                                    "If ever I did not have a horse or dog in my keeping, I should feel I had lost touch with the earth." ~Beryl Markham


                                    • #19
                                      Originally posted by AEM74 View Post
                                      let's face it, we don't all have buckets and buckets of money on which to retire our horses, though that might be our desire.
                                      Not a comment on the OP, but response to AEM's comment above: Responsible horse owner *do*, indeed, make provisions to retire their horses. It is not a matter of money... it is a matter of ethics. It amazes me how the money often dries up, once that horse is no longer rideable. There was plenty of money to lesson, show, etc. and then suddenly, when the horse needs to retire, poverty strikes.

                                      Those of us that have done the right thing by our horses, without "buckets of money" have very little sympathy for those that don't. Many people on this board and elsewhere make sacrifices every day, in order to retire their horses appropriately.

                                      OP: I agree with those that suggest approaching the horse's connections -- particularly those riders that had success with this horse in the past.

                                      I would also suggest anyone with a "lesson horse program" make provisions for those horses, when they can no longer work. If you choose to make your living off of horses, you have a responsibility for them. Sometimes, you can address it directly with whomever you are getting the horse from (e.g. will you take this horse back when he needs to retire?).

                                      There is nothing wrong with trying to find a home for these horses, but make sure you check them out thoroughly and don't assume you will be able to place your retirees in this manner. There aren't a plethora of people willing to take on what you are not.


                                      • Original Poster

                                        Thanks guys for the kind words. Over the two months he has been here he taught a total of 4 lessons. He somehow injured his peroneus tertius muscle while turned out one night. He has been resting for about 7 weeks and is much better. I am afraid of hurting him if I try to teach with him. I think he would benefit from quiet trail riding. In my experience the older guys do much better with light excercise. The woman I got him from had said he could come back but she bought another horse and now doesn't have room.