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Curious. Any 50/50 Draft/TB crosses Prelim & Up?

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  • Curious. Any 50/50 Draft/TB crosses Prelim & Up?

    Hi All!

    Looking for some upper level inspiration. Can 50/50 Draft Crosses get fit enough to do Preliminary Eventing? Even my beloved TB's are going to need conditioning to do 26-34 3'9'' fences at 550 mpm. Can the drafties keep up?



    Pics/Links Please!!

  • #2
    I'm curious too. I'm getting a sporty perch/holsteiner colt and am curious to see if anyone else is doing anything upper level with the true draft crosses. At barely 2 he's a solid 15.0hh or so but not drafty, so hoping he holds true to his parents' light and athletic builds and is not a throwback. =) He has wonderful movement, build AND personality so I'm not concerned but definitely curious! =P
    Put some excitement between your legs...Ride a Thoroughbred

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    • Original Poster

      #3
      Found One!! With Color Too!!

      The Navigator

      Preliminary
      8 year old draft/paint gelding
      Owned by Teena Olson

      http://lewisevent.com/new_photo_albu.../navigator.htm

      Yay!

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        #4
        He's not 50/50 but Irish Draught stallion going Prelim..

        http://windfieldfarm.weebly.com/flagmount-pride.html

        and Twist of Blues

        http://windfieldfarm.weebly.com/twist-of-blues.html

        I guess the drafties can keep up sometimes

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        • #5
          Irish Draught is not the same as a clyde, perch, etc. The breed was developed to be a riding horse, not a pulling horse. Definitely a different kind of animal...Irish Draughts are more similar to old school WBs.
          Amanda

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          • #6
            I event a 50/50 Percheron/TB at prelim and a friend events his brother at intermediate. I bred these horses putting the same TB stallion to a Percheron mare and her daughter. The prelim horse also hunts with my husband. Interval training is your friend.
            Hindsight bad, foresight good.

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            • #7
              Merloch, Bonnie Mosser's 4* horse

              Merloch is 1/2 Percheron x 1/2Thoroughbred. Is that good enough for you??
              Virginia Field Hunters
              https://m.facebook.com/vafieldhunters?ref=bookmark

              https://m.facebook.com/studconcertogrosso?ref=bookmark CONCERTO GROSSO

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              • Original Poster

                #8
                Badger- Pics? Website?

                What conditioning schedule do you have?

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                • #9
                  Peter the Great is 1/2 Percheron 1/2 TB. Ran intermediate.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by KC058 View Post
                    He's not 50/50 but Irish Draught stallion going Prelim..

                    http://windfieldfarm.weebly.com/flagmount-pride.html

                    and Twist of Blues

                    http://windfieldfarm.weebly.com/twist-of-blues.html

                    I guess the drafties can keep up sometimes
                    At the bottom it says that its a part of a simulated online game and none of it is real. Bummer

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                    • Original Poster

                      #11
                      Originally posted by tres grey View Post
                      At the bottom it says that its a part of a simulated online game and none of it is real. Bummer
                      haha Wow!! Thanks for catching this! Hilarious!! but disappointing. Well I think the paint/draft is real. Wonder where the pics came from??

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by KC058 View Post
                        Badger- Pics? Website?

                        What conditioning schedule do you have?
                        Yes please share conditioning schedule.

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                        • #13
                          Here's one, I think he's awesome, watched him a couple times now and I'd love to take him for a spin

                          http://hoofpix.zenfolio.com/p3360464...d688#h233ed688

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                          • #14
                            We may qualify even though it's been said that my horse is mostly standardbred with some perch in him. We just don't know!
                            There was a stallion competing in the ul's not too long ago too. Can't remember his name though.
                            Even duct tape can't fix stupid

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by KC058 View Post
                              Even my beloved TB's are going to need conditioning to do 26-34 3'9'' fences at 550 mpm.
                              Prelim is 22 - 30 3'7" fences at 520. You don't need 3'9" at 550 until you go Intermediate.
                              Janet

                              chief feeder and mucker for Music, Spy, Belle and Tiara. Someone else is now feeding and mucking for Chief and Brain (both foxhunting now).

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                              • #16
                                But you'd better be prepared to do that, Janet! Also, isn't there like a 2" leeway on the measurements? I could have pregnancy brain on that though.
                                Even duct tape can't fix stupid

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                                • #17
                                  Originally posted by LisaB View Post
                                  But you'd better be prepared to do that, Janet! Also, isn't there like a 2" leeway on the measurements? I could have pregnancy brain on that though.
                                  The 2" leeway is in show jumping.
                                  Janet

                                  chief feeder and mucker for Music, Spy, Belle and Tiara. Someone else is now feeding and mucking for Chief and Brain (both foxhunting now).

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                                  • #18
                                    My trainer competes a 50/50 Belgian/Paint at training, but he was going around prelim solidly for a year. He's 17.3 and built like a draft, no Paint showing besides one patch underneath the girth.

                                    1. http://a4.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphot...6_451015_n.jpg

                                    2. http://a1.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphot..._6004565_n.jpg

                                    He's also competed Prix St. George dressage!

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                                    • #19
                                      Originally posted by goodmorning View Post
                                      Here's one, I think he's awesome, watched him a couple times now and I'd love to take him for a spin

                                      http://hoofpix.zenfolio.com/p3360464...d688#h233ed688
                                      I want him. O_O

                                      There's something about that combination of feathers flying and adorable pricked ears with his knees up around his eyeballs.
                                      http://thoughtfulequestrian.blogspot.com - My Ventures Into Eventing

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                                      • #20
                                        I believe Carrick was

                                        John Williams' Rolex Mount. I think COTH did a piece on him the last year he was at Rolex. Mudroom that posts here has one that does quite well, and while he isn't doing Prelim now, I believe he has. He hunts in the winter season and I've never seen him unfit.

                                        It depends on what you get with the cross. I've seen God-awful crosses that have a drafty way of going and a "Thoroughbred" brain. If Daddy is a non-winner-of -a- ham sandwich OTTB and Mommy is a common, poorly bred draft, then you might get junk. A lot of the PMU babies are mellow, but someone I know has brought them down 4 or 5 at a time from Canada. Some of them are absolutely bat**** crazy. Those are disposed of and the sane ones he makes into hunt horses. Some are nicer than others, a couple have turned into pretty darn nice showjumpers.

                                        I have a 11 year old PMU gelding that was picked out by a conformation expert and brought down to Kentucky. I bought him as a long 3 year old. He's big, gorgeous, liver chestnut, and everyone thinks he's "imported". I tell them he is, he's just from Canada. He looks just like Carrick, and I'm convinced if Phillip or Buck were riding him, he'd jump everything at Rolex. If he hadn't got eliminated in dressage on Friday....

                                        He's got a huge overstep, swings through his back, three beautiful dressage quality gaits and he's freejumped nearly 6 feet, he's done 5' with a rider up.
                                        He jumped out of our 4 board fencing, that is about 5 feet high, from a trot.

                                        Here's what you need to remember when you are picking any horse, for any "sport" purpose. He never met his daddy and he doesn't know how much you paid for him. He doesn't know what he can't do, and neither do you, until you try. Once you get past a certain level, heart and brain mean as much as anything else. It's like Jimmy said, "I don't want a horse that needs me to help it, I want a horse that jumps in spite of what I do".

                                        My horse looks like a giant, old school Thoroughbred. On steroids.

                                        Find one like that.

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