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  • Rules Question: "Electronic Devices"

    I think I already know the answer to this question, but I just wanted to make sure. I was recently told by one of my trainers that she didn't think helmet cams were allowed cross country because "no electronic devices are allowed." I did remember seeing that in the rulebook, but when I went back to check, it only mentions radios and cell phones. Plus, I know plenty of people who compete at recognized events who use helmet cams without penalty. (Not to mention Doug Payne and Peter Atkins who use them at the highest levels...)

    So, like I said, I probably already know the answer, but would just like some reassurance that I wouldn't get eliminated for something so stupid!

  • #2
    Usage of Electronic Devices is tied to the rules about unauthorized assistance. Radios, cell phones and headsets can be used to communicate with the competitor while on course so those are not allowed.

    The helmet cam, as in only the camera, does not allow for communication with anyone at all so they are allowed.
    "Never do anything that you have to explain twice to the paramedics."
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    • #3
      What if I install a GPS into a helmet cam? Would it go like this:

      Turn left NOW.
      Go 3 strides to rolltop.
      Trakhener - turn right.
      Runout at water - redirect NOW.

      Always be yourself. Unless you can be Batman. Then always be Batman.

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      • #4
        gallop seven strides to scary bright white horse eating log oxer... RECALCULATING..... RECALCULATING....RECALCULATING, make U-turn when safe and proceed to barn at a walk


        helmet cams are fine- but helmet cams with talking gps (in the voice of george morris or jimmy wofford) would be hilarious
        Jazz- 4.9.01 OTTB, loved since 12.6.09
        Skip- 3.3.91 APHA, i miss you buddy

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        • #5
          Originally posted by skip916 View Post
          gallop seven strides to scary bright white horse eating log oxer... RECALCULATING..... RECALCULATING....RECALCULATING, make U-turn when safe and proceed to barn at a walk


          helmet cams are fine- but helmet cams with talking gps (in the voice of george morris or jimmy wofford) would be hilarious
          Can you imagine a talking helmet cam with a George Morris voice

          It would be like HAL from 2001 A Space Odyssey - helpful at first then suddenly creepy and demanding!
          Always be yourself. Unless you can be Batman. Then always be Batman.

          The Grove at Five Points

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          • #6
            lol... i wonder if it would also be judgmental...
            Jazz- 4.9.01 OTTB, loved since 12.6.09
            Skip- 3.3.91 APHA, i miss you buddy

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            • #7
              Originally posted by skip916 View Post
              lol... i wonder if it would also be judgmental...
              But of course! During long gallops in between fences it would have a running commentary on turnout and leg position. And then if you glanced at a jump judge it would offer critique on their "seat"
              Always be yourself. Unless you can be Batman. Then always be Batman.

              The Grove at Five Points

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              • #8
                Originally posted by fooler View Post
                Usage of Electronic Devices is tied to the rules about unauthorized assistance. Radios, cell phones and headsets can be used to communicate with the competitor while on course so those are not allowed.
                What about portable blenders? Are they allowed?

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                • #9
                  Most of our coaches could probably make a tape in advance that would pretend to be interactive but would be spot-on accurate...
                  If you are allergic to a thing, it is best not to put that thing in your mouth, particularly if the thing is cats. - Lemony Snicket

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by JER View Post
                    What about portable blenders? Are they allowed?
                    JER, you're going to have to cut back on the daquiris on course. I think that helmet blender is really throwing off your center of balance -- there's only so much ass-covering one mule can do.
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                    • #11
                      blenders... yes!
                      the "helmet cam" could actually be a secret little cooler and there could be a straw for sipping from the cooler while on course. i mean, if i had george morris doing a running commentary of my riding then God knows I'd need a drink.
                      Jazz- 4.9.01 OTTB, loved since 12.6.09
                      Skip- 3.3.91 APHA, i miss you buddy

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                      • #12
                        I'll bypass the blender rule and go straight to a margarita on the rocks, please. And I'll take my $200 for passing go.

                        Preferably in one of those undisclosed on-course-drink reservoirs that someone did a poll about.

                        Thanks!

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                        • #13
                          I double check before I ride every course and I have never been told no so far. You can't use the helmet cam as a "radio" device. Radios and phones can be used as those comminucations device!
                          No Worries!

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                          • #14
                            Define "portable?" What if I had a really long extension cord to a cooler? Beer probably helps me more on XC than my trainer.

                            I REALLY wish they would allow for a stop at a bar (e.g. the old Gazebo at the water in Jackson Hole or the bars at the second water at Rebecca) while on XC.

                            Reed

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                            • #15
                              reed- i think we could fashion you an on course kegerator. no extension cords required- so clearly not an "electronic device" and perfectly legal.
                              Jazz- 4.9.01 OTTB, loved since 12.6.09
                              Skip- 3.3.91 APHA, i miss you buddy

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                              • #16
                                Reed, that sport is known as "foxhunting."
                                Blugal

                                You never know what kind of obsessive compulsive crazy person you are until another person imitates your behaviour at a three-day. --Gry2Yng

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                                • #17
                                  Originally posted by skip916 View Post
                                  gallop seven strides to scary bright white horse eating log oxer... RECALCULATING..... RECALCULATING....RECALCULATING, make U-turn when safe and proceed to barn at a walk


                                  helmet cams are fine- but helmet cams with talking gps (in the voice of george morris or jimmy wofford) would be hilarious
                                  I just burst out laughing...

                                  On another note...I think safety vests should be chillable and fillable with preferred adult beverages..keeps one cool more ways than one on xc
                                  I love my OTTB! I get my dressage test done faster!

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                                  • #18
                                    Originally posted by RAyers View Post
                                    Beer probably helps me more on XC than my trainer.
                                    Reed, clearly you either don't drink a lot of beer, or are just SOOO coordinated as to have never accidentally shaken (or dropped) one. For drinking while riding, I suggest choosing something that doesn't fizz!

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                                    • #19
                                      Originally posted by poltroon View Post
                                      Most of our coaches could probably make a tape in advance that would pretend to be interactive but would be spot-on accurate...
                                      Oh, yes, this, it be true!
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                                      • #20
                                        Originally posted by RAyers View Post
                                        Define "portable?" What if I had a really long extension cord to a cooler? Beer probably helps me more on XC than my trainer.

                                        Reed
                                        So true. Not even kidding, it really does.

                                        What if we fixed our helmets with one of those beer can hats you see at NASCAR races? You know, the kind that holds a beer on each side with a long sippy straw.

                                        So the finished product would be: helmet, helmet-cam, beer hat, satellite radio receiver (for jamming out to favorite 80's rock song on XC), and portable AED for us, ahem, not-as-young-as-we-used-to-be types.

                                        How much could it possible weigh?
                                        Always be yourself. Unless you can be Batman. Then always be Batman.

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