• Welcome to the Chronicle Forums.
    Please complete your profile. The forums and the rest of www.chronofhorse.com has single sign-in, so your log in information for one will automatically work for the other. Disclaimer: The opinions expressed here are the views of the individual and do not necessarily reflect the views and opinions of The Chronicle of the Horse.



Forum rules and no-advertising policy

As a participant on this forum, it is your responsibility to know and follow our rules. Please read this message in its entirety.

Board Rules

1. You’re responsible for what you say.
As outlined in Section 230 of the Communications Decency Act, The Chronicle of the Horse and its affiliates, as well Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd., the developers of vBulletin, are not legally responsible for statements made in the forums.

This is a public forum viewed by a wide spectrum of people, so please be mindful of what you say and who might be reading it—details of personal disputes are likely better handled privately. While posters are legally responsible for their statements, the moderators may in their discretion remove or edit posts that violate these rules. Users have the ability to modify or delete their own messages after posting, but administrators generally will not delete posts, threads or accounts upon request.

Outright inflammatory, vulgar, harassing, malicious or otherwise inappropriate statements and criminal charges unsubstantiated by a reputable news source or legal documentation will not be tolerated and will be dealt with at the discretion of the moderators.

2. Conversations in horse-related forums should be horse-related.
The forums are a wonderful source of information and support for members of the horse community. While it’s understandably tempting to share information or search for input on other topics upon which members might have a similar level of knowledge, members must maintain the focus on horses.

3. Keep conversations productive, on topic and civil.
Discussion and disagreement are inevitable and encouraged; personal insults, diatribes and sniping comments are unproductive and unacceptable. Whether a subject is light-hearted or serious, keep posts focused on the current topic and of general interest to other participants of that thread. Utilize the private message feature or personal email where appropriate to address side topics or personal issues not related to the topic at large.

4. No advertising in the discussion forums.
Posts in the discussion forums directly or indirectly advertising horses, jobs, items or services for sale or wanted will be removed at the discretion of the moderators. Use of the private messaging feature or email addresses obtained through users’ profiles for unsolicited advertising is not permitted.

Company representatives may participate in discussions and answer questions about their products or services, or suggest their products on recent threads if they fulfill the criteria of a query. False "testimonials" provided by company affiliates posing as general consumers are not appropriate, and self-promotion of sales, ad campaigns, etc. through the discussion forums is not allowed.

Paid advertising is available on our classifieds site and through the purchase of banner ads. The tightly monitored Giveaways forum permits free listings of genuinely free horses and items available or wanted (on a limited basis). Items offered for trade are not allowed.

Advertising Policy Specifics
When in doubt of whether something you want to post constitutes advertising, please contact a moderator privately in advance for further clarification. Refer to the following points for general guidelines:

Horses – Only general discussion about the buying, leasing, selling and pricing of horses is permitted. If the post contains, or links to, the type of specific information typically found in a sales or wanted ad, and it’s related to a horse for sale, regardless of who’s selling it, it doesn’t belong in the discussion forums.

Stallions – Board members may ask for suggestions on breeding stallion recommendations. Stallion owners may reply to such queries by suggesting their own stallions, only if their horse fits the specific criteria of the original poster. Excessive promotion of a stallion by its owner or related parties is not permitted and will be addressed at the discretion of the moderators.

Services – Members may use the forums to ask for general recommendations of trainers, barns, shippers, farriers, etc., and other members may answer those requests by suggesting themselves or their company, if their services fulfill the specific criteria of the original post. Members may not solicit other members for business if it is not in response to a direct, genuine query.

Products – While members may ask for general opinions and suggestions on equipment, trailers, trucks, etc., they may not list the specific attributes for which they are in the market, as such posts serve as wanted ads.

Event Announcements – Members may post one notification of an upcoming event that may be of interest to fellow members, if the original poster does not benefit financially from the event. Such threads may not be “bumped” excessively. Premium members may post their own notices in the Event Announcements forum.

Charities/Rescues – Announcements for charitable or fundraising events can only be made for 501(c)(3) tax-exempt organizations. Special exceptions may be made, at the moderators’ discretion and direction, for board-related events or fundraising activities in extraordinary circumstances.

Occasional posts regarding horses available for adoption through IRS-registered horse rescue or placement programs are permitted in the appropriate forums, but these threads may be limited at the discretion of the moderators. Individuals may not advertise or make announcements for horses in need of rescue, placement or adoption unless the horse is available through a recognized rescue or placement agency or government-run entity or the thread fits the criteria for and is located in the Giveaways forum.

5. Do not post copyrighted photographs unless you have purchased that photo and have permission to do so.

6. Respect other members.
As members are often passionate about their beliefs and intentions can easily be misinterpreted in this type of environment, try to explore or resolve the inevitable disagreements that arise in the course of threads calmly and rationally.

If you see a post that you feel violates the rules of the board, please click the “alert” button (exclamation point inside of a triangle) in the bottom left corner of the post, which will alert ONLY the moderators to the post in question. They will then take whatever action, or no action, as deemed appropriate for the situation at their discretion. Do not air grievances regarding other posters or the moderators in the discussion forums.

Please be advised that adding another user to your “Ignore” list via your User Control Panel can be a useful tactic, which blocks posts and private messages by members whose commentary you’d rather avoid reading.

7. We have the right to reproduce statements made in the forums.
The Chronicle of the Horse may copy, quote, link to or otherwise reproduce posts, or portions of posts, in print or online for advertising or editorial purposes, if attributed to their original authors, and by posting in this forum, you hereby grant to The Chronicle of the Horse a perpetual, non-exclusive license under copyright and other rights, to do so.

8. We reserve the right to enforce and amend the rules.
The moderators may delete, edit, move or close any post or thread at any time, or refrain from doing any of the foregoing, in their discretion, and may suspend or revoke a user’s membership privileges at any time to maintain adherence to the rules and the general spirit of the forum. These rules may be amended at any time to address the current needs of the board.

Please see our full Terms of Service and Privacy Policy for more information.

Thanks for being a part of the COTH forums!

(Revised 1/26/16)
See more
See less

Wide track stirrup irons.. Composite irons..Offset..Qs about irons in general.

  • Filter
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts

  • #21
    It is not the stirrup per se........

    It is the position of the stirrup iron in relation to the foot, width of the horse,
    the "quality" of your foot/ lower extremity itself,
    then the strength and function of your lower extremity that matter.

    Changing stirrup irons are "until proven otherwise" a bandage at best....

    General fix......
    Outside branch back to match the balls of all 5 toes
    NO Heels Down ever- multiple threads on that debate available
    Off horse eval to find same or opposite side compensation/weakness in your strength
    Strengthening to address those compensation/weakness.

    Medical Mike
    equestrian medical researcher


    • #22
      Similar to Royal Rider

      After reading these posts I'm going to buy the extra wide track stirrups TOMORROW! I found a couple less expensive stirrup irons with basically the same features on the Dover site:
      Equi Wing Wide Track Stirrup and the Composite Reflex Stirrup Irons ($65 and $35, respectively). I'm probably going with the Equi Wing and definitely cheese graters.

      I'm just going from hunters to eventing, and not young anymore, and the extra stirrup width sounds like it will provide me additional support and security, especially with shorter leather lengths.

      THANK YOU, Fractious Fox, for posting this thread!!


      • #23
        I also get numbness in my foot when I crank my stirrups up, but haven't really found a differnt iron that helped. What I did find are these :http://www.vtosaddlery.com/product/I/SCIP.htm. They are amazing! Help with knee and ankle pain, dont lose stirrups, and numbness is not a problem. These are seriously the best thing in the world. Period.


        • #24
          Just a PSA on those flexible stirrups. I was warming up for a jumping clinic and had just finished cantering when my flexible stirrup broke. My horse loves to splash in the water and gets my legs pretty wet. The flexible part inside the rubber rusted and let go. I was lucky it let go when it did and not while I was jumping.
          The worst part was as I was tacking up that morning I notice the branch of the stirrup above the rubber had some rust. But it was just surface rust. I was annoyed that they were less than a year old and already showing some rust. It never occurred to me that there could be rust under the rubber cover.
          I did love those flexible stirrups. They really helped my knees on long trail rides. They were also less flexible than other ones I have seen so I didn't lose my leg stability or overflex my ankle.
          Oh, well, clearly you're not thoroughly indoctrinated to COTH yet, because finger pointing and drawing conclusions are the cornerstones of this great online community. (Tidy Rabbit)


          • #25
            I recently purchased the Composite Reflex Stirrups ($35) and really like them. The one thing I noticed is it really brought to light the fact that I sometimes draw my legs up, now I'm very concious of it and am working at developing a better base of support. Also when I work without stirrups, my horse doesn't mind them when they bump his sides. Another plus is they make the saddle lighter, especially when your tacking up a 17 hand horse.
            Last edited by horsecents; Jan. 25, 2011, 08:01 PM. Reason: added text
            1. Bozone (n.): The substance surrounding stupid people that stops bright ideas from penetrating. The bozone layer, unfortunately, shows little sign of breaking down in the near future.


            • Original Poster

              Oh! I'm excited to see my mundane topic was actually a successful one! I'm amazed at the extra responses I've received - Thanks guys! I'm sorry that I didn't respond for a while, I had to go out of town for a funeral.

              Anyway, I just ordered a pair of inexpensive composite wide track irons from VTO. They were $35 and had good reviews on various sites (including this thread!). It was between these or the Equiwing's at Dover.. I decided to go with the less expensive ones to a) see if the wide foot bed even makes a difference and b) because I was already ordering from VTO anyway.

              This past weekend I went to a local tack shop and picked up a pair of Royal Rider?? carbon wide track irons. They were NICE. I didn't even ask the price, but my instructor and I both lamented our pricey tastes. What I liked about it though can be found in less fancy knock offs. Then, today I had a lesson and had the same old numbness in my foot. In my case, I think the numbness has to do with a set of previously broken toes (they were broken more than once). It's only those toes on that foot that have problems. I'm really hoping that this will help!!! I came home and decided that today was the day! Onward to new irons! I'll report how they perform on this thread.

              Thanks to everyone who has contributed so far. Now, people who are wondering about irons have a place to go!
              Final Furlong Racehorse Retirement


              • #27
                Reviving the thread (I started one in the dressage area but am doing more research).

                I've been using what I think are plain stirrups with these: http://www.vtosaddlery.com/product/I/SCIP.htm

                and have had no foot or knee pain for the month.

                I just switched back to my HS Bows and in two rides my knees are puffy and sore.

                I thought heavy stirrups were safer to "get back" but it doesn't sound like many people on this thread are losing their composites ... and I am attracted to that black color.

                New ideas?


                • #28
                  I have the wide Composite stirrups and I love them. It may be because they are wide, but I really like them. My foot doesn't go numb in them.


                  • #29
                    http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B002HPNBMU I have a pair of these that I foxhunt with. I've never had an issue losing my stirrup and not being able to get it back. They're actually pretty hard to lose in the first place. My feet rarely come out of them. I can hunt for hours without my knees hurting. I'd recommend them to anyone. They feel very stable. The footbed tips just a little to compensate for the wide track, but it doesn't bounce around on you like the jointed stirrups can. It only tips one way also.


                    • #30
                      Originally posted by retreadeventer View Post
                      I suffer from numbness in the stirrups, and I got the cheaper composite stirrup -- and they have made a huge difference. Not entirely the answer but a long, long way toward more comfortable. Mine were under $40 for the pair and well worth it. They have nothing special on the tread, are lightweight, and I have no trouble finding them, riding in them, even hunting several hours -- no problem. Well worth the relatively small investment!
                      Ditto on the cheap composite stirrups. Retread - are yours wide track or regular?

                      My mom bought a pair of the cheapo wide track composite stirrups ($25-30) for me a little over a year ago to try - I originally didn't want them because I'm one of those people who instantly hates anything that seems to be just a fashion trend... She talked me into at least trying them out, though, and I LOVE them.
                      I have had tendonitis (achilles) for years and have always struggled with pain when riding. I have tried jointed stirrups, peacock stirrups, regular heavy fillis irons... NOTHING worked. Until these. I haven't had tendon pain when riding since I put these on my jump saddle. And I agree with the other posters - I actually loose my stirrups less frequently with these. And when I have lost a stirrup, I've found it is no harder for me to find and pick it up than a normal heavy fillis iron. Bonus - I find that the ones I have also offer a better grip/more tread when wet. But that's JMHO.
                      I have Higher Standards... do you?

                      "For the love of my horse, I know who I am."


                      • #31
                        Originally posted by candysgirl View Post
                        http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B002HPNBMU I have a pair of these that I foxhunt with. I've never had an issue losing my stirrup and not being able to get it back. They're actually pretty hard to lose in the first place. My feet rarely come out of them. I can hunt for hours without my knees hurting. I'd recommend them to anyone. They feel very stable. The footbed tips just a little to compensate for the wide track, but it doesn't bounce around on you like the jointed stirrups can. It only tips one way also.
                        Yep! Those are the ones I have I think!
                        I have Higher Standards... do you?

                        "For the love of my horse, I know who I am."


                        • #32
                          I hurt my achilles tendon about a year and 1/2 ago. I went to the compostite wide based stirrups in an effort to alleviate the pain from flexing my foot/ankle. I love them. I also find that they hold your foot in postion due to the tread in the footbed. At first the "lightness" of them felt weird, but I got used to it quickly.


                          • #33
                            This is kind of an embarrassing question to ask...but do the composite irons have a weight limit? I'm not THAT heavy...(currently 175, but working on losing) but I ask because years ago I managed to bend a Kwik-Out iron, which I didn't even realize was possible, and I probably weighed about 40 pounds less then than I do now....

                            Adams Equine Wellness


                            • #34
                              I used to get a numb baby toe from my fillis irons. Like you, I do not like “flex” irons, and I like the weight of metal (easier to retrieve a lost iron).

                              I ended up getting the Equiwing wide track aluminum stirrups.

                              I LOVE THEM. No more numb foot, they look traditional, are a bit lighter than fillis irons, without being as light as composite. They come with two different foot pads, black rubber, and cheese grater – I use rubber in the summer, grater in the winter.

                              Love love love them.
                              APPSOLUTE CHOCKLATE - Photo by Kathy Colman


                              • #35
                                I use the wide track composite irons, no flex or anything, with cheese grater pads. My feet and knees hurt due to RA, and these are WAY more comfortable.

                                Also I never lose a stirrup. I think they could possibly be more difficult to find if you lost one, but thats from my perspective of being rather stiff and unable to bend my ankle/leg/foot around to get it back. Happily, this has never been a problem as I just don't seem to lose them ever. If I did I would just halt, fix it and continue and I personally would need to do that with a regular stirrup anyways, or continue on without the stirrup. The bonus for me is that if I choose to continue on these ones are so light weight that they do not disturb my horses if they bounce on their side.

                                They also don't fall down when lunging.

                                My feet don't hurt as much with them and the joints of all my toes have lots of inflammation - I can't walk normally most of the time.

                                I feel very stable in them, much more so than in jointed/flexible stirrups, or in regular stirrups which cause me so much foot and knee pain that I just cannot use them.
                                2016 RRP Makeover Competitor www.EnviousBid.com


                                • #36
                                  I just bought a pair of the composite wide track stirrups but haven't tried them yet. Question, what are these cheese grater pads some of you are talking about?

                                  Duhh....I think I answered my own question....that is the pad they come with correct???????????


                                  • #37
                                    Originally posted by Fractious Fox View Post
                                    Thanks guys for all of the input! I do suspect that to a large degree, less is more in the stirrup department. It's interesting too to see the different views on the composite irons.. I'd still like to know what the manufacturers tout as their benefits though. Delta, I think I'd like offset eye that you mentioned as to me, the ability to find your stirrup is the most that you could get out of the newer styles on the market. All the ones I've seen for sale though are a bit too spendy for me right now.

                                    Looking forward to seeing other responses.
                                    If you want to try some cheap composite/other unique stirrups, check out Horze:

                                    With the 50% off code MERRYCHRISTMAS, there are plastic stirrups on there for $10. Might be worth trying them out to see if you like them, if there aren't any you can steal off other saddles at the barn!


                                    • #38
                                      McVillesMom, I am significantly heavier than you and have not had any problems with the composites.


                                      • #39
                                        ok folks.
                                        I'll be another guinea pig.
                                        My feet go numb, the balls of my feet hurt, the arches of my feet hurt, and my knees hurt. And I have turf toe on my left foot that hurts so bad that sometimes I can't walk.
                                        I also suffer from extreme dorsiflexion and also my toes over flex.
                                        So basically....my toes will point straight to the sky--this in turn pulls on my patellar ligament and hurts my knees even more.

                                        I've been trying to make myself more comfortable for the past few months.
                                        I bought the stirrup pads (those black wrap arounds) they rock but they don't help me with pain at all.

                                        Today I went and bought better boots. No more Ariats. Even the best of the best Ariats have a crappy foot bed when it comes to my extreme neediness. lol.
                                        So I've bought good Justin work boot types--that allow far less felxion of the foot bed in general.

                                        I'm buying the Equiwings from VTO (I just can't go all black so I have to buy the more expensive Equiwings to get a tradition color. boooo)

                                        I will report back.
                                        Horses are amazing athletes and make no mistake -- they are the stars of the show!


                                        • #40
                                          Let's hear it for those wide track, composites! Best $35 I've spent in a long time!

                                          He is total garbage! Quick! Hide him on my trailer (Petstorejunkie).