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Area II - Redland Hunt PC HT? ROLLCALL!

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  • Area II - Redland Hunt PC HT? ROLLCALL!

    Thoughts on this HT?
    Particularly the Training course, but I may have friends doing the BN and N courses, so all input is appreciated!
    Last edited by Invested1; Apr. 7, 2008, 02:12 PM.
    Amwrider: May the fleas of a thousand camels infest their genitalia and may their arms be too short to scratch.

  • #2
    I'm interest in this as well.
    Mosmom

    http://photobucket.com/albums/f45/ksox/

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    • #3
      We will be there. My daughter's trainer said it's a good one, though I've also heard it's a "fun course" (whatever that means!). Slim pickins' for April at BN so I'm not sure there's much choice!

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      • #4
        It's a fair course, although some of us had uncharacteristic XC stops or even Es there last year getting the Spring cob webs off. Don't take any of the jumps for granted - not that they are difficult - just keep your wits about you. It's a really well run event and great place to start the year.

        Training jumps that were problematic last year:

        Jump 3 - airy logs jumping down a hill. Several horses had issues.

        Jump 11? - a roll top into the water. The roll top is at the bottom of a hill, on a turn around a tree...and Bam, there's this easy, but unexpected roll top jumping into water.

        Maybe others can add more.
        [img=http://thumb1.webshots.net/t/34/35/6/69/41/2554669410098335381BhThdE_th.jpg]

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        • #5
          I did this HT as a first outing of the year at training 2 years ago. The XC course was very straightforward and I remember the stadium being nowhere near max height but it was a turny course. It was a good first event of the season for me.

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          • #6
            Has anyone ever done their BN? What's that course like? Water, Dithches, Bank...etc.?
            Mosmom

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            • #7
              all of their courses tend to be good first times at a level
              stadium is on grass on a little bit of a hill and can be slippy and chewed up if it rains . . . and it always rains the week before or during it (kind of like it always rains for the Waredaca fall HT weekend)
              the water can cause some issues because of the approach to it and because the water itself is now aquamarine
              the year before last the new little trakhener (for training, I think novice was just a ditch but could be wrong) caused lots of problems but that was mostly rider error and/or lack of anticipating that the horses would look (did not see novice and training run last year so don;t know if it caused the same problems then)
              good first event of the season and the people who run it are great
              There is something about the outside of a horse that is good for the inside of a man.(Churchill)

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                #8
                Originally posted by OneDaySoon View Post
                Training jumps that were problematic last year:

                Jump 3 - airy logs jumping down a hill. Several horses had issues.
                Have you done the Rubicon T course? Is the Jump 3 you're talking about here similar to Rubicon's Jump 5? (the gargoyle jump)
                Amwrider: May the fleas of a thousand camels infest their genitalia and may their arms be too short to scratch.

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                • #9
                  Great event!

                  Dressage can be a bit overwhelming for a horse who hasn't been out much. It is on top of a hill overlooking everything and can cause some eye bugging in greenies.
                  Stadium is on a slight hill and tends to have tight turns and the jumps are packed together, but it is not difficult if you keep your horse balanced and deep in the corners.
                  BN XC is straightforward, but there can be several perceived bogie jumps that threaten to eat certain horses . As long as you keep going forward, it is not a difficult course. The aquamarine water with the loudly chirping frogs can be a bit disconcerting. The ditch is more of an indent in the ground- very easy. The bank last year caused a lot of problems and a few Es. The bank is sloped on one side with the other three being step ups or downs depending on which direction you are going. Last year, you had to step up one side of the bank after a semi tight turn around a tree. A number of people cut the turn too short and suprised their horses with the bank. Jump three (I think?) was also an issue. It was a nice slope made of logs (official name is escaping me) on top of a hill that caused a lot of .

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Invested1 View Post
                    Have you done the Rubicon T course? Is the Jump 3 you're talking about here similar to Rubicon's Jump 5? (the gargoyle jump)
                    WAY easier than the Rubicon hanging log on with the downhill landing in the field with the water jump if that is the fence you mean
                    There is something about the outside of a horse that is good for the inside of a man.(Churchill)

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                    • #11
                      I did BN last Spring as my first rec. HT with my guy. The up bank was pretty big, but as Cat said if you didn't cut the turn to it it rode well (even when I shoved liked crazy!). The log in the tree line that Cat mentioned caused us a stop becasue they can't really see what is on the other side until a few strides out. In hindsight if I had briskly trotted to it instead of cantering I don't think we would have had a problem. My horse at the time was not a fan of the water, but went right in even with the frogs (I think it helped that it was the first turn towards home). The ditch is small but, at the time, my horse was ditchy so we had a stop. Once he had a look he went right over. The rest was very straight forward. The BN XC was a big confidence builder for us and was a lot of fun. Stadium also rode well, a little hilly but it was on the smaller side. We will be there again this Spring at BN since the hard ground during last summer cut our season really short and June was the last time we competed.

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                      • #12
                        All the courses there are great. I suffered the wrath of the Big E last year, but both horses I rode (one at novice and one at BN) were, umm, NOT wanting to play the game...EVER. Our more "experienced" novice horses thought the oxer on the hill was pretty spectacular and both had funny jumps at it. The training is fun and great for either first time at that level, or for a first cobweb clearing outing. I've ridden it on both a first timer and an experienced horse who had been out of competition for awhile. It was great for both of them. I especially like the training course as an early season/first time course because typically the training level questions are asked with novice size-ish jumps (not always), but all the galloping fences are good training size fences.

                        Stadium is nice with a little terrain. I often think it is on the small side, which again is nice for an early event.

                        I've yet to have a good test there, but that could be more because of the horses I've ridden there and not because of the atmosphere (which CAN be daunting!).
                        Amanda

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                        • #13
                          Just reread Cat's post...3 and 4 were called the Roller Coaster (I think). Oxer type airy logs to down hill, up hill to 4 which was the same type of jump as 3 but a single log. It did cause problems, but my boy didn't seem to mind those.

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                            #14
                            Originally posted by bambam View Post
                            WAY easier than the Rubicon hanging log on with the downhill landing in the field with the water jump if that is the fence you mean
                            Yes ma'am, that's the one!

                            Well, yay, sounds like it will be a good "cobweb clearing" event! And I LOFF that it's a 1-dayer!
                            Amwrider: May the fleas of a thousand camels infest their genitalia and may their arms be too short to scratch.

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                            • #15
                              Here's a (crappy) photo of Training Jump 3. I did not have problems at that jump, but my usually brave horse did take a look. Others had one or more stops.

                              http://inlinethumb35.webshots.com/41...600x600Q85.jpg

                              I think I know which logs you mean at Rubicon. I haven't had a problem there, just that dumb roll top into water at Redland.

                              Also, the BN course and N course are both very doable. My boy started his eventing career there as a 4 year old, and everything was good. Note to Self: Remember XC course and don't forget any jumps!!!
                              [img=http://thumb1.webshots.net/t/34/35/6/69/41/2554669410098335381BhThdE_th.jpg]

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                                #16
                                Originally posted by OneDaySoon View Post
                                Here's a (crappy) photo of Training Jump 3. I did not have problems at that jump, but my usually brave horse did take a look. Others had one or more stops.

                                http://inlinethumb35.webshots.com/41...600x600Q85.jpg
                                Looks kinda similar to this one?
                                http://www.photoreflect.com/pr3/Orde...2S050021&po=21
                                Amwrider: May the fleas of a thousand camels infest their genitalia and may their arms be too short to scratch.

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                                • #17
                                  Actually, that one looks airier than the one at Redland. The one problem with the courses there (well, besides the mud, see my next para) is that they sometimes start out easy, easy, easy, BAM -- that was the case with that Training jump -- the first two jumps were teeny and that one was a genuine training jump with terrain.

                                  The other problem (not their fault, this one!) is that the back half of the course, where the water is, is very low lying and boggy. It can be really, really deep back there, so be prepared to trot or in general pick your way. one year they actually had to omit that back half, so no water for anyone.

                                  Still and all, they tend to be nice first outings for the year.
                                  The big man -- my lost prince

                                  The little brother, now my main man

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                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by asterix View Post
                                    Actually, that one looks airier than the one at Redland.
                                    Sweet!!!

                                    Yah, that jump was at my 2nd Training HT and it had me *really* nervous! You can see in the next picture that I had a HUGE smile on my face as we were landing, and I actually have it on video that I YELLED, "GOOD BOY!!!!!!!"
                                    Amwrider: May the fleas of a thousand camels infest their genitalia and may their arms be too short to scratch.

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                                    • #19
                                      aww you guys have me all excited.
                                      this is going to be my first recognized event with my boy.
                                      and hopefully it will be a confidence booster.

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                                      • #20
                                        I love Redland. It is such a nice first event of the year. Really well run and friendly.

                                        I have only ever done training there, but when I did it, the water was just a pass through and then a jump a couple of strides out on the exit. I am a little surprised that they have a rolltop into the water now, even if it is a small rolltop. Wow. Oh well, I guess I'm behind the times on what is OK to put on training courses now.

                                        The SJ there is always a nice course. I guess the jumps are on the small side because a couple of years ago I did Loudoun the weekend after Redland and I was at the size of the jumps on the T course. I was SURE that the course I was looking at was set at P, not T. But I was wrong, LOL. So my point is that if they haven't changed the stadium into true T sized jumps, be prepared to see bigger jumps at your next HT.

                                        Edited to say that I just remembered that I have also done Novice there ... I just completely forgot (duh)! Novice (when I did it - think that was 2005) was a great first time out for the season and fun. The "ditch" then was a little indention that my horse didn't even lift his legs to jump - just ran through it, LOL.

                                        Something else that really stuck out at me a couple of years ago was the little trakhener that they put on the BN course (it was on BN, right? Or Novice?) I thought that was a little unusual for such an early season event at those levels and felt bad for the people who had stops and Es there.
                                        Last edited by flyingchange; Feb. 23, 2008, 02:14 PM.

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