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  • Anyone compete with a horse that has pssm

    Please tell me your program !
    Age of horse and level of competition.

  • #2
    Originally posted by sweetpea View Post
    Please tell me your program !
    Age of horse and level of competition.
    PSSM, if I recall correctly, is a series of related symptoms similar to EPSM. My daughter Liz (lizajane09) has a 12 year-old TB mare with well-controlled EPSM going Intermediate. You may want to PM her for the dietary regimen they follow.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by sweetpea View Post
      Please tell me your program !
      Age of horse and level of competition.
      My mare has suspected EPSM. I never had the muscle biopsy done to dx her. She had problems with recurrent bouts of tying up and muscle wasting across her shoulders (not like the classic cases in the hindquarter region). I hadn't heard of EPSM while I was competing with her, but her condition stayed manageable as long as I stayed very consistent her her exercise schedule. We only competed to Novice before I stopped for personal reasons. A couple of years later, once I finally had heard of EPSM, I switched her onto a higher fat diet (the first diet I had her on was alfalfa pellets with some Purina Athlete and corn oil. Then I switched to Triple Crown Complete with corn oil). I was also very careful to make sure she had some form of exercise every day, even if it was just walking. If she had a day off, the next day would be very slow and careful work as to not stress her. Since then, her muscles have filled out and she hasn't tied up (in about 8 years).

      I just wish I had known about the higher fat diet when I was competing with her, because it might have prevented a few episodes of tying up.

      ETA: She was 5-8 years old when competing, 11 when I put her on the higher fat diet. She's actually been off of the diet and on just hay while being a pasture puff for the past couple of years, but I'm slowly putting her back in work and am adding TC Complete for some added fat while she's in light work, and once we get into more intensive work I'll start adding oil again.
      Happiness is the sweet smell of horses, leather, and hay.

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        That is so interesting tbgul

        Have you tried the Triple Crown Senior??? My jumper is on this because it is higher fat and lower NSC'S even compared to the Complete. It is not like other Senior's .

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        • #5
          We have a horse in our barn that was just confirmed PSSM. Luckily, the biopsy did not show any muscle damage or inflammation which hopefully means we have this under control! He is a 17yo tb gelding and he is competing successfully at Training.

          I had our local Southern States pull up comparative information on their different feeds and I switched him to the Triple Crown Senior because it is the lowest starch food they make. It is also apparently much tastier than the Low Starch and this gelding will tolerate more oil on the senior. He is currently on The senior and 2 cups of corn oil plus just a bit of beet pulp to soak up the oil daily. With his diagnosis confirmed, I am seriously considering replacing the beet pulp with alfalfa pellets if he will eat them.

          He is doing well (although he still does not have the top line I would like to see) but I would definitely love to hear everyone else's program for managing this issue!

          Jammie

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          • #6
            Originally posted by sweetpea View Post
            That is so interesting tbgul

            Have you tried the Triple Crown Senior??? My jumper is on this because it is higher fat and lower NSC'S even compared to the Complete. It is not like other Senior's .
            I think I did at one point but went back to Complete for some reason. I think maybe because my mare didn't care for it? Not sure, but I think I may try it again since she's now considered a senior anyway. Probably could use the extra vitamins/minerals. Thanks for the suggestion!
            Happiness is the sweet smell of horses, leather, and hay.

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            • #7
              I had a severely EPSM TB gelding. For the first 2 years I owned him, I had no idea what was the matter. His canter transitions were explosive, he could not jump 2 cross rails 2 strides apart. He lay down flat, dead-horse style for 20 minutes out of every hour. He could not be contained in stall or trailer without kicking the walls to smithereens. He was extremely mouthy. His eye was so hard. He had to be tranqued for the farrier. He could not walk up hill unless his head was free and nose stuck out in front of him. His VERY thorough pre-purchase exam was the cleanest my vet had seen in years. During my 2 years of struggle, I treated this guy for Lyme, ulcers, injected his hocks, had chiro and massage therapies. I spent 2 years getting beat up by this poor thing and right here on the COTH, I learned about EPSM and the Rural Heritage web site. (THANK YOU, Roundbale and Dr. Valentine) I changed my horse's diet (he was also allergic to corn, oats, beet pulp, wheat and cotton seed) to alfalfa pellets and copious amounts of canola oil (1 cup 3xday). He went from impossible to 99% rideable. We never won any prizes but he became comfortable and happy and actually got to love his job. We moved up through the ranks, we did the CCI* at Morven Park. We were featured in a Chronicle article on the subject. Jimmy Wofford asked when we'd be moving up to Intermediate. Life was good. It can be done. It takes vigilance. Don't ever give your horse a piece of candy or an apple or carrot. Make sure your horse ALWAYS gets its full dose of fat EVERY day. Never think everything is fine. Concentrate on the hind end every minute. It is tough stuff but can be done. Good luck.
              Proud and achy member of the Eventing Grannies clique.

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